Bus_Boy Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 (edited) As a fan of Metallica's early music, i recently updated my cd collection by adding some of their more recent albums. What a mistake that was. I haven't listened to them all the way through, and i can pretty much say that they won't be getting played ever again. Their album from 2008 "Death Magnetic" is absolutely shocking. Everything is loud and in your face, the entire percussion is so distorted that it makes it un-listanble. Equally bad, if not worse, is their 2003 album "St.Anger" Going back to their 1996 album "Load" is like listening to a master piece in comparison. Go back even further 1988 to "Justice for all" and it get's even better. Fast forward back to 2008 again and i almost feel like throwing the CD in to the bin even it wasn't for the fact that it would be the equivelant of throwing away money, which i feel like i did anyway. I paid through the rear for their 1999 S & M album, and it has only a handful of decent recordings. How can you get 3 or 4 songs right and completely screw up with the remaining 17 i just don't understand? I'm not angry at the money lost, or waisted, just the fact that they will never make their way on to my system. I wonder if bands themselves realise that their music sounds like crap, and if they did whether they would do anything about it? I've heard all the stories and read the articles about loudness and modern music and so forth, but this is the first time i've actually heard it with my own ears. Edited July 2, 2011 by Bus_Boy
LogicprObe Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 I reckon they have only made 3 or 4 good songs in their whole career.
houdinifangs Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 They actually only wrote one good song and then played it at different speeds. Go Megadeth!
Mick35 Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 Plenty of others to agree with you BB, myself included. Rick Rubin dropped the ball with metallica's latest, no doubt about it.
Grumpy Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 I've heard people praise the Gold Signature Black CD but i find it harsh through my set-up. Pheww! Looking at your heading I thought you meant John Lennon, Kurt Cobain and Marvin gaye
Cyber_Murphy Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 I reckon they have only made 3 or 4 good songs in their whole career. That's a bit tough.. I stopped listening after 'Black", so I agree with the topic of this thread.. But,,, Kill 'em all, Ride the Lightening, and Master of Puppets, are classic albums and full of excellent tracks.. Ta CM
hired goon Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 G'day, "Death Magnetic" is a great album struggling to get through the brick wall. Good stuff for the car, not so much for the home. There are rips of the Guitar Hero Metallica version floating around that are less compressed. I've got the LP back in Oz but haven't unwrapped it yet for a comparison. "St Anger" did nowt for me. "Load" and "Unload" are okay. But gimme "Master Of Puppets", "And Justice For All" and "Black" anyday. --Geoff
LogicprObe Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 That's a bit tough.. I stopped listening after 'Black", so I agree with the topic of this thread..But,,, Kill 'em all, Ride the Lightening, and Master of Puppets, are classic albums and full of excellent tracks.. Ta CM Ever wonder why they have never released a 'Best Of'?
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted July 2, 2011 Volunteer Posted July 2, 2011 I reckon they have only made 3 or 4 good songs in their whole career. You realise that with one sentence you have probably completely derailed this thread now it will be about the quality of Metallica's songs rather than the quality of their recordings
RockandorRoll Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I think ive bought it up before on here but Nevermore were in the same boat with Enemies of Reality. Completely trashed the recording of the album, they were going for 'old school' thrash sound and enede up just making it unlistenable. Fans complained and the album was re-done by another producer. They had different album covers and everything very cool times http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemies_of_reality
aechmea Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 Back in the olden days (70s) I had a Phase Linear 1000 Autocorrelator and Dynamic Range Enhancer. An analogue hardware box to remove tape hiss and to restore some of the lost dynamics. I threw it out not so long ago. Maybe its time for some manufacturer to re-invent a similar device/software - maybe in the digital domain.
Graywulf Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 Black and S&M are about all I want to listen to from them to be honest!
LogicprObe Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 You realise that with one sentence you have probably completely derailed this thread now it will be about the quality of Metallica's songs rather than the quality of their recordings well, a good song poorly recorded is still a good song.
caddisgeek Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 They dissapeared up there own um, egos, when Cliff died, he was the rudder and they have been without direction for 25 years
houdinifangs Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 Isn't there an expensive/exotic heavy weight Audiophile diamond encrusted Metallica vinyl box set out there?
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted July 3, 2011 Volunteer Posted July 3, 2011 well, a good song poorly recorded is still a good song. +1 Completely agree
mondie Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 St Anger was atrocious. A sonic basket case but some brilliant tunes, about my favourite of theirs. Isn't there an expensive/exotic heavy weight Audiophile diamond encrusted Metallica vinyl box set out there? There is, see here ,nice sounding set, probably not definitive for hardcore fans but l reckon its very good.
amdan Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 As a fan of Metallica's early music, i recently updated my cd collection by adding some of their more recent albums. What a mistake that was. I haven't listened to them all the way through, and i can pretty much say that they won't be getting played ever again. Their album from 2008 "Death Magnetic" is absolutely shocking. Everything is loud and in your face, the entire percussion is so distorted that it makes it un-listanble. Equally bad, if not worse, is their 2003 album "St.Anger" Going back to their 1996 album "Load" is like listening to a master piece in comparison. Go back even further 1988 to "Justice for all" and it get's even better. Fast forward back to 2008 again and i almost feel like throwing the CD in to the bin even it wasn't for the fact that it would be the equivelant of throwing away money, which i feel like i did anyway. I paid through the rear for their 1999 S & M album, and it has only a handful of decent recordings. How can you get 3 or 4 songs right and completely screw up with the remaining 17 i just don't understand? I'm not angry at the money lost, or waisted, just the fact that they will never make their way on to my system. I wonder if bands themselves realise that their music sounds like crap, and if they did whether they would do anything about it? I've heard all the stories and read the articles about loudness and modern music and so forth, but this is the first time i've actually heard it with my own ears. Couldn't agree with you more. I didn't buy St. Anger or Death Magnetic because I had heard about the quality. The comment by the singer along the lines 'everybody expects Metalica to keep heavy metal going' helped a lot with my decision not to buy. The arrogance of these people is amazing.
caddisgeek Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I actually bought a new pressing of "Ride the Lightning" on vinyl and it is woeful, I reckon my old pre recorded cassette from back in the day sounds better
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted July 3, 2011 Volunteer Posted July 3, 2011 I just dug out my original copy of Ride The Lighting (bought in 1985 I think) - we'll see what it sounds like!
LuzArt Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) I had a discussion recently on poorly recorded/mastered music affecting one's listening enjoyment. While analysing fidelity, mastering, the actual mix etc is a great hobby of mine, some of my favourite songs/albums aren't necessarily that well recorded or mastered. That said, Death Magnetic, in it's official CD release form is utterly appalling and not worth anyone spending their money on. It's an absolute disgrace. Yes, the Guitar Hero version appears to have been produced from a pre-master copy of the stereo mix, faaaaaarrrrr more listenable. Some terrific riffs on that album, even if every song is in the same key Ben Edited July 3, 2011 by LuzArt typo
caddisgeek Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I actually bought a new pressing of "Ride the Lightning" on vinyl and it is woeful, I reckon my old pre recorded cassette from back in the day sounds better I've done the shoot out, 20 year old pre recorded cassette beats 2010 vinyl remaster, more forward and dynamic, more weight and puch (whatever that all means ) It just sounds better thats just plain sad anyone want to buy a copy of "Ride the Lightning" on vinyl?
LogicprObe Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I've done the shoot out, 20 year old pre recorded cassette beats 2010 vinyl remaster, more forward and dynamic, more weight and puch (whatever that all means ) It just sounds betterthats just plain sad anyone want to buy a copy of "Ride the Lightning" on vinyl? Geeze..........it must be crook!
metal beat Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 Death magnetic sounds fine on vinyl. Yes compressed but no clipping and can be played LOUD with no problems
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