Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted June 24, 2011 Volunteer Posted June 24, 2011 For anyone confused by the different sub-genres this is pretty cool http://www.mapofmetal.com/#/home
O.Sydney Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 wow that caught me by surprise, took a while for the page to load then the music starts on full pelt, Black Sabbath 1970 For anyone confused by the different sub-genres this is pretty coolhttp://www.mapofmetal.com/#/home
ayou2 Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Top effort who ever designed that & good find Whatmore. Black Sabbath acknowledged as the founding fathers .... thats what I like to see
Full Range Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 I lived through it and got the first Black Sabbath vinyl album when it was released Then came Masters Of Reality and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath also Paranoid Cant remember the order FR
protecon Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Looks like a similar idea to the original Guide to Electronic Music created by Ishkur.
RockandorRoll Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 thanks for that, will keep me entertained for hours
mondie Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Its worth a look just for the choice of tunes. Good link Whatmore.
emesbee Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 bah humbug to 'sub-genres'. Its all just music, isn't it?
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted June 24, 2011 Author Volunteer Posted June 24, 2011 bah humbug to 'sub-genres'. Its all just music, isn't it? There may be a time in the unknown future when you are called upon to discuss the finer points of Deathgrind versus Blackened Crust... that's when you pull out your handy Map
joz Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) There may be a time in the unknown future when you are called upon to discuss the finer points of Deathgrind versus Blackened Crust... that's when you pull out your handy Map I seriously doubt it Trev. Enjoyed quite a few of the listed tracks though,they took me back to a time long ago. Edited June 25, 2011 by joz
RockandorRoll Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 bit disappointed by the Groove Metal Grimfist should have made the cut for that one. Pantera are good but they shouldnt own the whole genre. And Exhorder in the same boat as Pantera is just wrong. And what the hell are White Zombie/Machine Head doing in there? All the bands in that subgenre are so totally different from each other. Exhorder should have been Death and Roll with Entombed Pantera should have been maybe Thrash Metal Machine Head should have been Nu Metal or Thrash Metal White Zombie should have been Nu Metal Then they have Venom's Welcome to Hell in Speed Metal and Black Metal from Black Metal in Black Metal when the songs (WTH and BM) are basically the same argh!
houdinifangs Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 bit disappointed by the Groove MetalGrimfist should have made the cut for that one. Pantera are good but they shouldnt own the whole genre. And Exhorder in the same boat as Pantera is just wrong. And what the hell are White Zombie/Machine Head doing in there? All the bands in that subgenre are so totally different from each other. Exhorder should have been Death and Roll with Entombed Pantera should have been maybe Thrash Metal Machine Head should have been Nu Metal or Thrash Metal White Zombie should have been Nu Metal Then they have Venom's Welcome to Hell in Speed Metal and Black Metal from Black Metal in Black Metal when the songs (WTH and BM) are basically the same argh! Sorry RaoR no worthy metal act deserves the shame of the Nu Metal tag. Nu Metal just isn't metal - I wouldn't even call it rock. I am pretty biased though and a little bit old school. Machine Head are tricky - when they first came out they were kinda a mix of Pantera and Biohazard. Now they are very much thrash. White Zombie are kind of gothic/industrial ?!?! maybe? I don't consider Pantera thrash although they are derived from thrash. I haven't seen the site as my phone doesn't have flash. Does it have Crusty or ***** core? And where or does Mr Bungle fit?
RockandorRoll Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 haha no i didnt see ***** Core anywhere and no Mr Bungle - i think generally this is just alternative, i mean where else does it go? White Zombie for industrial yes! and i agree on Machine head, they started out Nu-ish no they are fair decent, my favourite song is still Bulldozer. not sure where i stand on Nu metal though, it has its place as metal but not sure where it lines up with things like the big 4 and death metal, its just out of its league
Graywulf Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 well I dont accept heavy rock did START with Black Sabbath... if you want to look backwards there were a few 60's bands heading into the direction of rock. Sabbath may be the 'high profile' beginning, but!!!!
LogicprObe Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 Even with its faults, it's a good thing. I'm in the Black Sabbath camp though.
Sir Rab of Everest Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 well I dont accept heavy rock did START with Black Sabbath... if you want to look backwards there were a few 60's bands heading into the direction of rock. Sabbath may be the 'high profile' beginning, but!!!! I remember well when my sister brought Paranoid home; I though it was a funny album, rather tongue in cheek. At the time we were listening to more 'serious' stuff like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Free, Jethro Tull, Johnny Winter And, The Who, ...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted June 25, 2011 Author Volunteer Posted June 25, 2011 I grew up on a diet of new wave of British hm. Only recently returned to my metal roots and am having a great time discovering how the genre has grown since I last paid any attention to it
Graywulf Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 RAB: I remember well when my sister brought Paranoid home; I though it was a funny album, rather tongue in cheek. At the time we were listening to more 'serious' stuff like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Free, Jethro Tull, Johnny Winter And, The Who, ... Yes exactly my point..... most HM bands were about or members were cutting teeth in the 1960's... In fact the Who are well mentioned, If you really look at the late 60's the Beatles last albums,the Who and Stones were really opening up the gates for HM.
LogicprObe Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 Well, when Black Sabbath first started, Led Zep released their first album and were mightily impressed but they vowed to be even 'heavier' and became the heaviest band in the world only to be blown off stage by their support act at the Horden Pavillion in Sydney.........around '75, I think it was............by these guys.
houdinifangs Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 My Dad always contended that the 'original' heavy metal originated in the psychedelic scene where artists started making "heavy" music. He would have Iron Butterfly, Vanilla Fudge, Jefferson Airplane, Fever Tree and even early Pink Floyd as Heavy Metal acts. The 'metal' bit referred to the aftertaste of LSD...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted June 25, 2011 Author Volunteer Posted June 25, 2011 My understanding was that black sabbaths heavy sound came about because Tony iommi lost part of a finger in an industrial accident and therefore had to change the way he tuned and played his guitar. In any event, musical styles evolve so it's almost impossible to say a particular genre started with a particular band. They all stand on the shoulders if what came before. So maybe black sabbath were not the first but it's an arbitrary distinction anyway
Graywulf Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 My Dad always contended that the 'original' heavy metal originated in the psychedelic scene where artists started making "heavy" music. He would have Iron Butterfly, Vanilla Fudge, Jefferson Airplane, Fever Tree and even early Pink Floyd as Heavy Metal acts. The 'metal' bit referred to the aftertaste of LSD... Again well mentioned bands HF, Iron Butterfly certainly had a 'heavy' sound. There is always a band who gets attributed with starting a genre, but they usualy do build on the shoulders of others... Thrash metal? Often quoted as starting with Slayer, yet they used to 'headbang' at Venom concerts..... who follwed behind Motorhead,,, who started at the same time as Punk (fast rift playing)....... it's often a progression or a 'morphing' of sound rather than a completely new departure.
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