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Beyerdynamic Launches 3rd-gen T1 and T5 Headphones


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I was never the biggest fan of the 1st and 2nd gen T1 but I always respected them as a excellent dynamic headphone (I preferred the 1990) My only concern is Beyerdynamic going to a 32ohm driver unit.... I hope its been engineered from the ground up. The 32 ohm DT880 left such a sour taste in my mouth. I really hope these are a marked improvement over the older variants.

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1 hour ago, Marc said:

Good to hear they aren't trash!

 

My only criticism is that a positive Review with no meaningful comparisons comes across as a sponsored sale pitch.

 

The high end headphone market isn't that saturated. Comparisons to a few staple models is fairly helpful. Even comparisons to the Gen 2 variants would help a lot.

 

T1 here is coming up against models like the Ananda, Clear and HD800S. T5 against Aeon 2 Closed, TH900 MK2, Elegia.

 

Most considering headphones in the 1000+ price range have heard, or can hear, one of these models above.

 

Does he have any other headphones on hand to make some A/B comparisons on?

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21 minutes ago, John Buchanan said:

Nice review. 2 points:

1. In paragraph 5, the T5 and T1 have been mixed up

2. Any comparisons to the T1 and T5 2nd generation?

Thanks, good catch. Got the model numbers mixed up.

 

Sorry, I'm unable to compare them directly to the 2nd get T1 and T5 as I didn't have them onhand. Sadly in COVID times, it's a bit difficult for me to pop down to my local store for a demo, which is what I'd usually do!

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59 minutes ago, Jensway said:

Thanks, good catch. Got the model numbers mixed up.

 

Sorry, I'm unable to compare them directly to the 2nd get T1 and T5 as I didn't have them onhand. Sadly in COVID times, it's a bit difficult for me to pop down to my local store for a demo, which is what I'd usually do!

Do you keep / have any other headphones on hand?

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3 minutes ago, Bengineer said:

Do you keep / have any other headphones on hand?

Sure do:

 

Spoiler

Headphone Inventory
Current:

  • Sennheiser HD800S
  • Denon D5000 (custom woodies)
  • Beyer DT880 (600ohm All Black Everything edition)
  • Grado SR80i (custom woodies)
  • Unique Melody MERLIN (CIEM)
  • Westone ES3x (CIEM)
  • Bang and Olufsen U70
  • Sennheiser HD 25 ii
  • BG Woodphones
  • Maruni HV-320v
  • B&W PX
  • B&W PX7
  • Audio-Technica ATH900ANC BT
  • Sennheiser HD630VB
  • Audio-Technica ATH-M50X (Limited red edition)
  • Koss PortaPro
  • Skullcandy Aviators
  • Apple Earpod
  • Sennheiser AMBEO Smart Headset
  • Samsung/AKG IEMs (Note 8 bundle)
  • Westone 3
  • AROMA Twins
  • Pioneer planars (model # unidentified)
  • Apple AirPods Pro
  • Sennheiser Momentum In-ear Wireless
  • Sennheiser Momentum In-ear Wireless 2
  • Audio-Technica ATH-ANC300TW
  • Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7b
  • Viso HP70
  • Bose NC700
  • Bose Frames
  • Nura Nuraphone
  • Sennheiser HD25 Limited Edition (75 years)
  • Sennheiser Momentum In-ear wireless
  • Sennheier Ambeo Smart Headset
  • AIAIAI "Pipe"

Previously owned:

  • Samsung IconX
  • House Of Marley LEGEND
  • Yuin PK3
  • HiSoundAudio Living
  • Audeze LCD 2.2
  • Sennheiser HD800
  • Denon D2000 (custom woodies)
  • Alessandro MS1
  • Sennheiser URBANITE XL
  • Beyer DT880 Premium
  • Sennheiser Momentum limited edition (SAMBA)
  • Fischer FA-011 Limited edition (1 out of 100)
  • Fischer FA-011 standard
  • Sony MDR-V6 Beyerdynamic DT770 pro (250ohms)
  • Koss PortaPro
  • Sennheiser HD-215
  • Takstar ($20 cheapies I purchased when I was 15)
  • Technics RP-1200
  • HiSoundAudio WooDuo 2
  • Sennheiser HD-25 II (Modded)
  • Maeden MD-802A
  • Westone UM3X
  • Dunu DN-1000
  • Sennheiser HD600
  • JVC HASZ2000
  • HiFiman RE0
  • Thinksound MS01
  • Bang and Olufsen Form 2
  • Bang and Olufsen A8
  • Pioneer HDJ-1000
  • T-PEOS H-200 (Hybrid IEM)
  • Fischer FA-011
  • Fischer FA-003 (ZEBRANO Wood)
  • Audio Technica ATH-M50
  • Sennheiser HD-25 II
  • Aroma Early
  • Sennheiser Momentum Wireless 3
  • Sennheiser HD660S

 

Headphone Amp Inventory
Current:

  • Vincent KHV-1PRE
  • "SANCTORUM" by Retro-Thermionic
  • Matrix Quattro (Balanced)
  • JDS Labs C5
  • Palaios Iona
  • FiiO E7

Gone:

  • La Figaro 339 (I should never have sold this)
  • Little Dot MKIV
  • Matrix Audio Mini-i PRO (DSD/Balanced)
  • Digizoid ZO 2.3
  • Traktor Audio 4
  • Head Direct EF1 (12AU7 tube)
  • AUNE T1 (EH 6922 Tube)
  • Bravo V3 (EH 6922 Tube)
  • JDSlabs c421 (2227 edition)
  • Sherwood Receiver
  • Fiio E7
  • Fiio E09K
  • Fiio E17
  • Fiio E11
  • FiiO E18
  • FiiO E12A

Source Inventory
Current:

  • iBasso DX160
  • Chord Mojo
  • Technics 1200 MK2
  • Pro-Ject RPM 1.3 Genie
  • Matrix Mini-i PRO DSD
  • Galaxy Note 10+
  • iPad Pro 12.9
  • DIYmod 80GB

Gone:

  • FiiO X7
  • FiiO X5
  • DiYmod 80GB
  • iPod Classic 160gb

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jensway said:

Agreed - just fyi, the review already includes a comparison to the HD800S.

 

Regardless, thanks for the feedback!

 

 

One sentence for one song :P

 

Even if it doesn't make its way into the review, take any more notes you could share?

 

HD800S come up in the $1600-1700 mark new easily enough, and at that price its unbeatable for many things, does T1 Gen 3 Beyer get close enough to consider?

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Despite constantly being on sale, the HD800S RRP is $2599 usually, which should always be taken in consideration when making a comparison.

 

But it's hard to ignore the fact that it's often on sale (like it is right now), and reduced to almost match this new T1.3.

 

At this pricepoint, it turns into a preference game. The signature of the HD800S matches my taste more closely, as the T1 didn't bite quite as hard up top.

 

The T1 hits a bit harder, has more slam down low, but is darker. The HD800S has more depth and texture, and a wider soundstage. 

 

I really enjoyed my time with the T1 but I'm not rushing to sell the Sennies for them juuuust yet.

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  • 1 year later...
  • 2 weeks later...

I actually had them for 2 months and preferred the Gen1 by a considerable margin. The Gen3 never opened up for me and were just too dark. They transported me back 15years ago when I heard the HD650 for the first time and suddenly understood what *veiled* means. Had many 650 after and learned to appreciate them. But T1 Gen3 is truly dark and veiled for my ears. Driven by TT2 and GSX mini.

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On 12/10/2021 at 2:14 PM, silversurfer said:

I actually had them for 2 months and preferred the Gen1 by a considerable margin. The Gen3 never opened up for me and were just too dark. They transported me back 15years ago when I heard the HD650 for the first time and suddenly understood what *veiled* means. Had many 650 after and learned to appreciate them. But T1 Gen3 is truly dark and veiled for my ears. Driven by TT2 and GSX mini.

This is also my experience with the Gen 3. It really shouldn't be called a 'T1' at all, TBH. 

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1 hour ago, Mightygrey said:

This is also my experience with the Gen 3. It really shouldn't be called a 'T1' at all, TBH. 

Totally agree. It’s a different headphone and apart from the looks nothing in common with the original.

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I have 2 Beyers and would never have moved on if it wasn't for the top end. I'm no spring chicken but i just couldn't stand the painful and fatiguing top end. Maybe the comments about 'dark and veiled' for the new generation are an attempt to tame this notorious top end, agree totally about the Senn 650 being dark and veiled. The Oppo PM 2 are not perfect but are totally enjoyable with loads of details in the mids that I have never heard before. Too many h/phones are voiced to appeal to the bass heads.

 

It's been my experience that different countries 'like' a different 'sound'.  German/Austrian -  precise/bright, Italian - organic, warm, melodic (my taste) , French - somewhere in between, ditto UK. You pays your money and make your choice  - there is no 'right sound'  - what you like, you like.

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