Tannoy Owners & Discussion

[naggots]

On 27/11/2020 at 10:40 PM, Lx4man said:

So thought I would post a few pics of these monitor gold 12's I've been rebuilding for @naggots , they were dropped off with me , voice coil rubbing and not working , we sourced the last known nos 12 inch monitor gold cones as I found the original voice coils were absolute toast , I've cleaned the VC gaps and hf gap , re aligned and check shims on hf drivers , fitted and aligned new bass cones and yet to do crossovers and plugs , just got them running and ran a few sweeps and they are ballanced nice and even and testing spot on ! Have them running with brand new 50 year old cones and they sound great ! Cant wait to finish the xovers and hear them once they have some cabs proffesional built

An update for Lx4man a few months later. I ran in these newly coned/crossovered speakers over Christmas and new year, lightly running Spotify 10hrs a day. 
 

John from Aranmar Acoustics suggested I send them to be measured by Barry Arntstein before He can work his magic. 
 

Awaiting the design but looks like Black Sassafras is the Timber of choice........
 

 

[Willmax]

Looks like you are making good progress there @naggots, do you know what sort of design/shape/size you are going to go for the cabinets?

Edited February 12, 2021 by Willmax

[naggots]

On 12/02/2021 at 8:43 AM, Willmax said:

Looks like you are making good progress there @naggots, do you know what sort of design/shape/size you are going to go for the cabinets?

Leaning toward a taller narrower style cabinet vs the normal Tannoy style. Ultimately waiting for Aranmar to come up with a design. They used to make all the Tannoy cabinets for Oz amongst others back in the day 

[Willmax]

I hope all the Tannoy folks have been busy enjoying their systems lately. 

It feels like it's been a long time between drinks around here ;-D

 

 

Edited March 24, 2021 by Willmax

[Willmax]

These VTL 100 Monoblocks with the EL34 are a true gem of HiFi. 

Thanks @Lx4man for letting me experience their delightful sound!

 

 

Edited March 24, 2021 by Willmax

[LX_4_MAN]

So guys it's been months since I've been active on here due to personal situations,  recently I have got around to servicing the Edinburgh's,  now the Edinburgh's use the tannoy 3149 driver as used in the lrm and dc4000 and others,  allot of people think the cloth surround is forever lasting but this is far from the case , the end result is cracking but even long before that point they harden and this dramatically increases driver fs. My two measured up in the 70hz region when in fact 32hz is spec , I can't imagine a single 3149/3169 driver would be in spec now unless it's been reconed or re suspended , this explains the general consensus about lack of bass from these drivers , the high fs causes an upper bass hump with a sharp roll off ,it also effects the mid range of the driver as well due to added mechanical resistance and loss of damping characteristics as the cloth hardened , with new suspensions first thing is the mid bass hump has gone and the extra output in the bottom end but then you realise how much better the bass mid crosses over with the compression horn making the driver much more cohesive,   so for anyone who thinks these doped cloth suspensions live forever that's unfortunately not the case and I'm sure the majority are well out of spec by now .....

[crtexcnndrm99]

Those would be one of my favourite cabs by their appearance, very nice.

 

This arrived today so keen for a browse through. Bought primarily for this section

Fingers crossed might have some hpd315’s coming my way in coming months. They will be trialled in the scales up Cornetta, don’t your worry... 

[LX_4_MAN]

10 hours ago, crtexcnndrm99 said:

Those would be one of my favourite cabs by their appearance, very nice.

 

This arrived today so keen for a browse through. Bought primarily for this section

Fingers crossed might have some hpd315’s coming my way in coming months. They will be trialled in the scales up Cornetta, don’t your worry... 

I hope it  eventuates you'll post plenty of pics , I've never heard cornettas probably due to them being Japanese market only , it would be interesting to see how the combination of large bass reflex and front horn loading works with some 315's 

[Willmax]

On 22/04/2021 at 4:59 PM, Lx4man said:

So guys it's been months since I've been active on here due to personal situations,  recently I have got around to servicing the Edinburgh's,  now the Edinburgh's use the tannoy 3149 driver as used in the lrm and dc4000 and others,  allot of people think the cloth surround is forever lasting but this is far from the case , the end result is cracking but even long before that point they harden and this dramatically increases driver fs. My two measured up in the 70hz region when in fact 32hz is spec , I can't imagine a single 3149/3169 driver would be in spec now unless it's been reconed or re suspended , this explains the general consensus about lack of bass from these drivers , the high fs causes an upper bass hump with a sharp roll off ,it also effects the mid range of the driver as well due to added mechanical resistance and loss of damping characteristics as the cloth hardened , with new suspensions first thing is the mid bass hump has gone and the extra output in the bottom end but then you realise how much better the bass mid crosses over with the compression horn making the driver much more cohesive,   so for anyone who thinks these doped cloth suspensions live forever that's unfortunately not the case and I'm sure the majority are well out of spec by now .....

It's great to see you back in the fold @Lx4man what an interesting discovery you have made there, thanks for sharing your learnings on these. Cheers

[LX_4_MAN]

With the cold weather coming in I went from the 12 inches down to the 10 inches! Stirling tw on the front and centre and performing much better now they are spread out ! 

[Willmax]

On 22/04/2021 at 9:24 PM, crtexcnndrm99 said:

Those would be one of my favourite cabs by their appearance, very nice.

 

This arrived today so keen for a browse through. Bought primarily for this section

Fingers crossed might have some hpd315’s coming my way in coming months. They will be trialled in the scales up Cornetta, don’t your worry... 

Hey @crtexcnndrm99, I reckon your Corneta DIY speakers featured on The Audiophiliac channel, congratulations!

 

Edited April 29, 2021 by Willmax

[crtexcnndrm99]

18 hours ago, Willmax said:

Hey @crtexcnndrm99, I reckon your Corneta DIY speakers featured on The Audiophiliac channel, congratulations!

 

Cheers haha.

 

I know it’s a bit goofy (and I only had old picks due to them being in a storage container) but I got a kick out of being featured by Steve still

[Quinardo]

Hi Fellow Tannoyers,

 

Did a little crossover upgrade on a modest pair of XT8F - goal was to mainly refine some of the treble in the mids/highs. 

 

Parts changed:

Superes MOX resistors all round.

1.8uf Superior-Z cap

3.9uf Standard-Z cap

12.0uf Cross-cap

0.01uf Cornell Dubilier 940c by pass to existing 100 uf electrolytic cap.

 

*Inductors untouched

 

Before and After pics attached; now to burn it in!

 

 

[Willmax]

On 09/05/2021 at 10:33 AM, QuinYip said:

Hi Fellow Tannoyers,

 

Did a little crossover upgrade on a modest pair of XT8F - goal was to mainly refine some of the treble in the mids/highs. 

 

Parts changed:

Superes MOX resistors all round.

1.8uf Superior-Z cap

3.9uf Standard-Z cap

12.0uf Cross-cap

0.01uf Cornell Dubilier 940c by pass to existing 100 uf electrolytic cap.

 

*Inductors untouched

 

Before and After pics attached; now to burn it in!

 

 

Hey @QuinYip good job on those crossovers, did you notice much difference before and after the recap/burn-in?

[Quinardo]

5 minutes ago, Willmax said:

Hey @QuinYip good job on those crossovers, did you notice much difference before and after the recap/burn-in?

 

Hey @Willmax, yes it made a substantial improvement on the highs in smoothness and detail coming through; this was the main goal. Bass also tightened up a bit with the small by-pass cap on the retained electrolytic. Was definitely worth doing the upgrade on it.

Might also consider redoing the existing cables on it - they're a bit on the thin side.

[Third Time Lucky]

What sort of skills do you need and what is the rough cost of components for this? I have a pair of XT8F's as well and when I put in a lower gain amp on the top posts it did take that bit of an edge off but I still need that amp elsewhere so something like this might work out well.

[Quinardo]

15 minutes ago, Third Time Lucky said:

What sort of skills do you need and what is the rough cost of components for this? I have a pair of XT8F's as well and when I put in a lower gain amp on the top posts it did take that bit of an edge off but I still need that amp elsewhere so something like this might work out well.

 

I got the parts from Speaker Bug.

Parts cost with express shipping was just under $150 AUD ;Labour of course was DIY.

 

If you contact Nigel he may be able to get the same parts ready or Shoot me a PM I can also give u the list of parts I used.

 

~Quin

[LX_4_MAN]

I also freshened up the crossovers in my stirling TW 's the other day ! Well worth the effort 

[Quinardo]

9 hours ago, Lx4man said:

I also freshened up the crossovers in my stirling TW 's the other day ! Well worth the effort 

 

Looks awesome!

Not going to upgrade the resistors too?

 

Regards,

Q

Edited May 19, 2021 by QuinYip

[LX_4_MAN]

1 hour ago, QuinYip said:

 

Looks awesome!

Not going to upgrade the resistors too?

 

Regards,

Q

Thanks mate,  after doing a few of these I feel there is not allot of gain from the resistors , the hf cap makes the most noticeable improvement to the sound 

[Quinardo]

Do you know what brand the stock film caps are? I suspect also Bennic?

Also do you tend to keep the setting at + 1.5 on the treble after the Cap upgrade?

Considering doing something similar to a pair of Tannoy Balmoral.

[Nick M]

Hi I recently joined stereonet & am new to all things to do with Foums/Threads etc so please let me know if I am in the wrong forum. After I received the Introductory message, replied to this & then received a welcome message from Alex, I replied to Alex with detail of the Tannoy 15" Gold Series HPD's I had recently came into possession of & a number of photos showing their condition. What I didn't realize was that i was creating another thread & despite searching highs & lows I have not discovered a way of how to re-post that message into this forum which, if appropriate, seems the best place for me to get the assistance I am looking for. If anyone can help me with how to do this or let me know if it would be just simpler to just cut & paste I would appreciate it

By the way I am totally blown away by the set ups you have & how awesome they would sound

Thanks for any assistance

Nick

[Quinardo]

7 hours ago, Nick M said:

Hi I recently joined stereonet & am new to all things to do with Foums/Threads etc so please let me know if I am in the wrong forum. After I received the Introductory message, replied to this & then received a welcome message from Alex, I replied to Alex with detail of the Tannoy 15" Gold Series HPD's I had recently came into possession of & a number of photos showing their condition. What I didn't realize was that i was creating another thread & despite searching highs & lows I have not discovered a way of how to re-post that message into this forum which, if appropriate, seems the best place for me to get the assistance I am looking for. If anyone can help me with how to do this or let me know if it would be just simpler to just cut & paste I would appreciate it

By the way I am totally blown away by the set ups you have & how awesome they would sound

Thanks for any assistance

Nick

Welcome to SNA and the Tannoy thread Nick!

 

I think cut / paste might be easiest by the sounds of things - might be easiest to do it having 2 windows open; one from the original thread and then the other within your reply for this one?

Someone might be able to advise further though.

 

[Nick M]

Hi Quin

thanks for the welcome & tip..............I have tried Cut & Paste & it looks like it worked. The message was addressed to Alex but the information contains the details of the Tannoy's I now own. I have moved ahead with the enclosure repairs but any assistance on surround repairs, reconing & updating the crossovers would get me going in the right direction

 

Thanks again

Nick   

 

 

Hi Alex thanks for the welcome. Apologies for the delayed response as we have only recently moved house & I have been a bit distracted……..by many things! I will include some pictures of the HPD’s (if I can work out how to do this) & as you will see the surrounds will need replacing. One of the cones has been repaired & as I haven’t had a chance to listen to the Tannoys (they have apparently been in storage for last 16 years) I am not sure how ‘successful’ this has been. Because of this I am wondering about the need for a recone & probably would like for this to happen. Unfortunately early research suggests that a genuine recone kit may be hard to come by so happy for any advice on this & the surround replacements. I have also included some photos of the granite corner boxes that they came in. Apparently, these are based on a 1960’s Wharfedale design & also in need of some repair. I am not sure I will ultimately leave the Tannoys in these but I am keen to resurrect these, put the speakers back into these boxes just to hear what they sound like. Did I mention how heavy these boxes are………….really really heavy!! The crossovers look original to me & because I have in my early work life had some experience with tech repairs I think I could probably handle any details on how to improve the crossovers with higher grade capacitors etc. Several other non-audio projects on the go at the moment so the Tannoy repairs will sit in the background for a little bit of time but I am keen for any advice on the best way to get these beauties back delivering their wonderous sound. I am not feeling confident in attempting the surround replacement or the recone so any suggestions on who might be best to do this would be great. Thanks  

 

 

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[likewiise]

Hello Tannoy owners! 

Recently picked up some Tannoy Arden Mk1 HPD385s... I love them, magnificent speakers.

Running Technics 1210 mk2 with Nagaoka MP-110 cart or Bluesound Node II sources into vintage Marantz 3300 pre and 250M power combo... 

Going to keep these speakers for years so will put them in for refurbishment soon.. looking into the reconing kits (Lockwood etc..) and possible a crossover upgrade but might just recap to keep original spec.

Open to whatever experienced owners recommend?