New Vinyl - rough edges?

[April Snow]

I have noticed some of the new vinyl I have picked up recently - (particulary the 180 gram ones) seem to have rough edges - even burrs.

Really starting to put me off - 

I think unless it is something I just "have to have" I will stick with preloved -

the older vinyls are always smoother around the edges - even with an odd crackle or two, they just seem better overall.

 

Will be glad when the 180g craze is over too - prefer the standard to be honest myself.

 

Anyway, my whinge is now over (for today anyway).

 

Smilies - Sue

[Full Range]

Hi Sue

That should be part of the inspection process before packing 

Its actually common in manufacture for both metal and plastic to have burs on edges 

Machinery usually takes the burs off as a final process but if it is not completely removed then the final inspection check should pick it up and manually removed with a tool that is called a burr remover or de-burr tool 

 

This is what it looks like 

 

[t_mike]

Believe it or not, ultrasonic record cleaners often rattle a lot of it off. It isn't a big deal, just the edge of the stampers leaving a bit of vinyl behind. Many older records have grind marks on the edge where they were rounded off, and in turn removed the burrs. You could clean it off carefully with a scourer, but personally I wouldn't worry about it. 

Edited December 4, 2019 by t_mike

[April Snow]

15 hours ago, Full Range said:

Hi Sue

That should be part of the inspection process before packing 

Its actually common in manufacture for both metal and plastic to have burs on edges 

Machinery usually takes the burs off as a final process but if it is not completely removed then the final inspection check should pick it up and manually removed with a tool that is called a burr remover or de-burr tool 

 

This is what it looks like 

 

OK thanks for the explanation, just a new Queen album that arrived has quite a few on the edges, that are sharp. I guess won't do no damage though, but I thought with so many quality control was obviously not on the list that day :-(

[April Snow]

14 hours ago, t_mike said:

Believe it or not, ultrasonic record cleaners often rattle a lot of it off. It isn't a big deal, just the edge of the stampers leaving a bit of vinyl behind. Many older records have grind marks on the edge where they were rounded off, and in turn removed the burrs. You could clean it off carefully with a scourer, but personally I wouldn't worry about it. 

Ok I shall not worry about it then, glad I didn't want to keep the vinyl in the inner sleeve, I think it would cut through it eventually. I shall just accept it as something that can happen - this one album has a few, but I have noticed one or two on others as well, and they are all the 180 gram records which is interesting to me. I wont attack it with a scourer though, I shall just be careful when handling it. Thank you.

[Full Range]

2 minutes ago, April Snow said:

OK thanks for the explanation, just a new Queen album that arrived has quite a few on the edges, that are sharp. I guess won't do no damage though, but I thought with so many quality control was obviously not on the list that day

You can use a nail file to remove the burrs 

Hold the record inside a folded microfibre cloth 

Use the edge of the nail file and gently scrape the record edge at first and then use the file section if needed to finish 

 

 

[eman]

39 minutes ago, April Snow said:

Ok I shall not worry about it then, glad I didn't want to keep the vinyl in the inner sleeve, I think it would cut through it eventually. I shall just accept it as something that can happen - this one album has a few, but I have noticed one or two on others as well, and they are all the 180 gram records which is interesting to me. I wont attack it with a scourer though, I shall just be careful when handling it. Thank you.

Heavy record with sharp edges is a goodway of cutting through the whole cover, especially moving around in the mail.

Another complaint about current practices.

 

[April Snow]

49 minutes ago, Full Range said:

You can use a nail file to remove the burrs 

Hold the record inside a folded microfibre cloth 

Use the edge of the nail file and gently scrape the record edge at first and then use the file section if needed to finish 

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, eman said:

Heavy record with sharp edges is a goodway of cutting through the whole cover, especially moving around in the mail.

Another complaint about current practices.

 

Full Range - a good idea and simple enough fix - if it bugs me enough and I feel game I will try this.

 

Eman - yes, that is what I thought too - it is a shoddy way to let an album leave the manufacturing. The first time I saw a burr on a record I thought I must have done it in my spin clean as a newbie, but now I have seen a few I think it is lack of quality control. Now I am starting to take notice of these things too I guess.

 

Love me my 70s and 80s records though - no great issues there (apart from crackles due to age / dust of course).

But you can feel the quality of them, and so much easier to handle too as a lady with small hands

 

Edited December 5, 2019 by April Snow

[Leeming42]

Have come across this issue myself, as was mentioned earlier, a nail file will remove them, just need to be a bit careful.

[April Snow]

16 hours ago, Leeming42 said:

Have come across this issue myself, as was mentioned earlier, a nail file will remove them, just need to be a bit careful.

Ok that might sort it out - after all it is on the edge, an emery board should be gentle enough. Shall see how confident I feel and make sure I have not had a glass of red beforehand - hahahaha.

 

 

[audiofeline]

When i've had records with a rough edge I've gently smoothed it with some fine sandpaper.

I think it's some additional insurance should the stylus be incorrectly cued and fall off the outer edge (very unlikely, but I wouldn't want the diamond to be hit with rough edges).

It's been a long time since I've had a record that's required smoothing.   

[April Snow]

3 hours ago, audiofeline said:

When i've had records with a rough edge I've gently smoothed it with some fine sandpaper.

I think it's some additional insurance should the stylus be incorrectly cued and fall off the outer edge (very unlikely, but I wouldn't want the diamond to be hit with rough edges).

It's been a long time since I've had a record that's required smoothing.   

Yes that is what worried me too ......