Mantra1 Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 Respected Japanese maker, Accuphase, has announced a new Flagship Class A integrated amp, the E-800. As with most Accuphase products, the price reflects the quality of their components. $23K for a 50 watt integrated is big bucks, it's up to you whether you think it's value for money. 1
H.E. Pennypacker Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 End game for me... should be doable in a few years if I’m lucky.
Mantra1 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Posted November 30, 2019 1 minute ago, furtherpale said: End game for me... should be doable in a few years if I’m lucky. Yep, it would be hard to beat, that's for sure. But $23K!!!! 1
metal beat Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mantra1 said: Yep, it would be hard to beat, that's for sure. But $23K!!!! $US 21k in USA around US 10k in Japan.
JukKluk2 Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mantra1 said: $23K for a 50 watt integrated is big bucks, it's up to you whether you think it's value for money. 4 minutes ago, Mantra1 said: Yep, it would be hard to beat, that's for sure. But $23K!!!! People happily (relative term) pay slightly more for the Gryphon Diablo 300, and significantly more for the Mark Levinson No. 585.5 to name just two.
Mantra1 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) As usual, Australia/New Zealand get ripped off. I obtained the current Accuphase price list from the Aussie distributor last week. Here it is. Ah, it won't upload. I'll see if I can copy and paste. How do I upload a PDF? Edited November 30, 2019 by Mantra1
metal beat Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mantra1 said: As usual, Australia/New Zealand get ripped off. I obtained the current Accuphase price list from the Aussie distributor last week. Here it is. Ah, it won't upload. I'll see if I can copy and paste. AU 23k is a lot better than the USA retail of 21k = around 31k AUD. 1
Mantra1 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JukKluk2 said: People happily (relative term) pay slightly more for the Gryphon Diablo 300, and significantly more for the Mark Levinson No. 585.5 to name just two. Yes, but it's only a 50 watt amp. I'm sure those others you mentioned are powerful beasts. Edited November 30, 2019 by Mantra1
Mantra1 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Posted November 30, 2019 Just now, metal beat said: AU 23k is a lot better than the USA retail of 21k = around 31k AUD. Yeah, that's a bit surprising. One for us for a change.
Mantra1 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Posted November 30, 2019 Could someone tell me how to attach a PDF?
colinm1 Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 like the ml 29 at 50 watts it was a real sweet amp ,but only 50 w wasn't enough at the end of the day for me even the 27 was lacking brute power
Guest jakeyb77 Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 50w Class A and damping factor of 1000 it should have some power. It’s not only the amount of watts that signals what it’s capable of.
Wimbo Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 Rip off AFAIC. Never liked the product. You can do a lot better for the money IMO. 1
agentorange2 Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 I'd imagine these have been produced primarily for the Japanese market , anything else is a bonus. 50 watts in class A will be just fine coupled up to those big high sensitivity JBL's and Tannoys that they manage to squeeze into small rooms. Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture will sound like the coming of the 3rd Sino - Japanese war. 1 1
Cafad Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 As with all supposed "pure class A" amps from Luxman and Accuphase this is actually 50 watts in class A and another 40 in class B so it is actually a class A/B amp with a very high class A bias. The pic below is taken from the manual available on the Accuphase web site. The words "pure class A" very rarely mean what they appear to mean. It is a pretty impressive power supply/delivery graph though, pretty much exactly what you would expect from a company like Accuphase. 3
H.E. Pennypacker Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Cafad said: As with all supposed "pure class A" amps from Luxman and Accuphase this is actually 50 watts in class A and another 40 in class B so it is actually a class A/B amp with a very high class A bias. The pic below is taken from the manual available on the Accuphase web site. The words "pure class A" very rarely mean what they appear to mean. It is a pretty impressive power supply/delivery graph though, pretty much exactly what you would expect from a company like Accuphase. I have recently acquired its baby second cousin, the Luxman 590... It’s 30/60 x 2 watts destroy the (so advised) 150 x 2 of the NAD in the loungeroom, and gives my previous EC 100/200 x 2 a run for its money. Edited November 30, 2019 by furtherpale 2
Chill3 Posted November 30, 2019 Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, furtherpale said: I have recently acquired its baby second cousin, the Luxman 590... It’s 30/60 x 2 watts destroy the (so advised) 150 x 2 of the NAD in the loungeroom, and gives my previous EC 100/200 x 2 a run for its money. Yep have a 590 myself and has some real grunt 3
Mantra1 Posted December 12, 2019 Author Posted December 12, 2019 Does anyone know whether Accuphase and Quad go well together. In particular, whether the new E-800 Class A integrated would be a good match for Quad 57s? Considering getting new Quad 57s (from Quad Germany) and I'm not sure what amps go well with 57s. I had a pair many years ago, used with Quad 405 and a Quad pre amp, but Quad is Chinese owned (and made) now and the glory days have gone. Any thoughts?
Mantra1 Posted December 14, 2019 Author Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Another consideration concerning Accuphase is the cost of a matching SACD player for the E-800. The DP-750 is their top SACD player, but it retails in Australia for an eye-watering $28K. The amp is 'only' $23K. A gorgeous looking piece of equipment, but that price!!!! http://www.accuphase.com/model/dp-750.html Edited December 14, 2019 by Mantra1
Mantra1 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Is it true that the latest iteration of Luxman is as good as the equivalent Accuphase gear? For instance, would the Luxman L-590-AX11 integrated be a match for the Accphase E-800? Edited January 6, 2020 by Mantra1
t_mike Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 For that money, I hope it's available in a decent colour.
rantan Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Mantra1 said: Is it true that the latest iteration of Luxman is as good as the equivalent Accuphase gear? At least as good, but IMO, better. Each brand will have their followers but you cannot go wrong either way.
H.E. Pennypacker Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Mantra1 said: Is it true that the latest iteration of Luxman is as good as the equivalent Accuphase gear? For instance, would the Luxman L-590-AX11 integrated be a match for the Accphase E-800? 3 minutes ago, rantan said: At least as good, but IMO, better. Each brand will have their followers but you cannot go wrong either way. I’d love to do a shootout if there are any accuphase owners in Canberra.
PositivelyMusicallyGeared Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 I haven't been able to locate where it specifically mentions an A/B application in A's doco. To me, while the red bars denote rated power, up to which level performance is guaranteed, the orange ones seem to be what other manufacturers have as 'dynamic power', or headroom, as it were. A also does not provide a full specification list. Perhaps everything is dynamically adjusted?
Steam Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 On 30/11/2019 at 4:39 PM, Mantra1 said: Respected Japanese maker, Accuphase, has announced a new Flagship Class A integrated amp, the E-800. As with most Accuphase products, the price reflects the quality of their components. Accuphase Laboratory, Inc. E-800 WWW.ACCUPHASE.COM $23K for a 50 watt integrated is big bucks, it's up to you whether you think it's value for money. I love Accuphase and I assume this is up to the usual standard. I’m just dissapointed they keep using the LED type VU meters. I much prefer the old analog style VU meters like on the A47. 1
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