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Does anyone out there have experience with breaking in/burn in for Confidence C4's?  Just wondering how long this may require and what changes were experienced sound wise as they settled in.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

 

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Touchy subject for many.

 

Dyn for me generally is very noticable for break in more so than others.

 

When we had C4s in most difference happened in the first maybe 20-40 hrs and kept getting better to a few 100. Mostly notice in the bass and soundstage. Just got more enjoyable to listen to.

We left them playing constantly for a week and at low levels overnight (in a store) to break in faster.

 

If I owned them I wouldn't be in a rush. Just listen when you want to and enjoy any perceived benefits that may come and don't make too much judgement until 300-400hrs

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24 minutes ago, AlurkA said:

Does anyone out there have experience with breaking in/burn in for Confidence C4's?  Just wondering how long this may require and what changes were experienced sound wise as they settled in.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

 

Ah, new toys

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47 minutes ago, Bunno77 said:

Touchy subject for many.

 

Dyn for me generally is very noticable for break in more so than others.

 

When we had C4s in most difference happened in the first maybe 20-40 hrs and kept getting better to a few 100. Mostly notice in the bass and soundstage. Just got more enjoyable to listen to.

We left them playing constantly for a week and at low levels overnight (in a store) to break in faster.

 

If I owned them I wouldn't be in a rush. Just listen when you want to and enjoy any perceived benefits that may come and don't make too much judgement until 300-400hrs

Thanks @Bunno77 I'll try to be patient ?

 

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Are you finding the sound to be not what you remember in store? Something wrong?

I wouldn't even worry about placement critically until the few 100 mark

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@Bunno77I was finding vocals had lost something in comparison to my Dyn 5.4.s., particularly female vocals,  just no presence in the music.  Have since moved the speakers towards me a touch, 5-10 cm and they seem to be back.  Less toe in also had an impact. The C4's at this stage have a very different sound in comparison.  Describing it is difficult, possibly not as relaxed or smooth as the contour. Funnily enough the C4 seem to be providing me more bang for my buck volume wise.

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It definitely sounds like run-in.

 

i have owned C1 and C2 Platinum and they do take awhile to open up and smooth out, I would say 100’s of hours.

 

The C2 and C4 dual tweeters when run in offer incredible three dimensional room dispersion. You will be impressed in a few weeks is my thought. The C4 is also known to be quite hard to dial into the room, so I would recommend just let them run in and then fiddle more with the positioning.

 

i was tempted by the Bordeaux’s that Class A was selling.

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6 minutes ago, Ray H said:

It definitely sounds like run-in.

 

i have owned C1 and C2 Platinum and they do take awhile to open up and smooth out, I would say 100’s of hours.

 

The C2 and C4 dual tweeters when run in offer incredible three dimensional room dispersion. You will be impressed in a few weeks is my thought. The C4 is also known to be quite hard to dial into the room, so I would recommend just let them run in and then fiddle more with the positioning.

 

i was tempted by the Bordeaux’s that Class A was selling.

Thanks @Ray H

 

Having a listen atm.  I think what is throwing me off at the minute is how tight the bass is, possibly overpowering the overall sound.  I have a single Esotar2 in the Contour S5.4 and it sounded magic. Possibly finding the highs a bit sharp also.  It is dependent on the music I play.  Was totally blown away by Malia and Boris Blank this arvo.  Hoping this is a sign of things to come.

 

Cheers

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Paul,

 

What amp are you driving them with? I own the C1 and I've often though of upgrading to the C4. I've never heard them sound right in any shop though. I've heard the C2 on Parasound JC1's and they sounded great. The C4 though, was always partnered with low-ish powered amps when I entered a shop. I think for the tight bass to flesh out a bit, you're going to need lots of power. My C1's even improved going from Devialet 200 (200W into 6 Ohm) to the Original d' Atelier (1000W into 6 Ohm)

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14 minutes ago, Pim said:

Paul,

 

What amp are you driving them with? I own the C1 and I've often though of upgrading to the C4. I've never heard them sound right in any shop though. I've heard the C2 on Parasound JC1's and they sounded great. The C4 though, was always partnered with low-ish powered amps when I entered a shop. I think for the tight bass to flesh out a bit, you're going to need lots of power. My C1's even improved going from Devialet 200 (200W into 6 Ohm) to the Original d' Atelier (1000W into 6 Ohm)

I used to drive C4 (mk I) with Pass Labs x350.5 amp and Aesthetix Calypso pre for years. They sounded good. 

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5 hours ago, ds2k said:

I used to drive C4 (mk I) with Pass Labs x350.5 amp and Aesthetix Calypso pre for years. They sounded good. 

That's the kind of amp the Dyn's need. The more power, the better they sound.

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Thanks @Pim @ds2k

 

I am driving the C4 with an Accuphase A-47 and Accuphase Pre. 
 

Having a listen tonight with 30-40 hours on them and there has been a big change. Overwhelming bass is disappearing, sound stage, imaging has taken a giant leap forward and the top end seems to be smoothing out.  Vocals are still sitting back in the sound stage a little.   
 

The overall a balance of the sound has  improved massively and listening is becoming a much more enjoyable experience. 

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Ok. It’s now Thursday. With another 3 days listening 15-20 hours which would make the total between 45-50 hours the C4 have taken another step up.  Vocals are now presenting themselves a bit better and seem to fit in the sound stage more naturally. A bit further forward and pronounced.   
The bottom end is still pretty full which I am still coming to grips with. It does seem more relaxed. Not sure if this is me getting used to it in comparison to my S5.4’s or the speakers themselves. 
 

If I had not experienced this break in process myself I’d likely find it hard to believe that a speaker could behave like this as it is worked over time. Enjoying the music though which is the main thing I guess. 

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Now sitting at around 80 hours listening time for The C4. Lou Reeds “Walk on the wild side” has never sounded better. The bass guitar has incredible detail, great track for testing this. Male vocals are fantastic and the C4 have even been are able to tame Adele’s “A million miles”.  Still have some concerns around bass in some tracks. Gotta say I a loving these speakers. 

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We need pictures ?.   Otherwise we can’t be sure the  sound has changed.  
 

everyone needs Accuphase Dynaudio porn
 

 

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