jbgti Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 Have a rare US Led Zep 1 cc at/gp that turned up from Kazakhstan cracked. Got a full refund. It is cracked through half the record. The seller decided it would be fine not to use proper mailers and use a piece of cardboard. Which may have been okay if he didn’t use a piece with a fold in the middle of it. Surprised it wasn’t cracked all the way through. There are no more of these for sale on Discogs in vg+ or better anymore Can it be saved? Glue? 1
aussievintage Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 How neat is the crack? If it matches up again perfectly, with no chips, yes, you can probably get it to play. Definitely try a cheap stylus the first time - don't risk an expensive one, a listen carefully for problems. A small drop of superglue on the lead in edge may help stabilise it. Make sure you cue up after the glue when you play it. I would digitise it as soon as you can, so you have a copy. 2
eman Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 I wouldn't. I don't even like a bad scratch. AT/GP . George Piros mid 1970s ? 5 digit matrix ? Is it rare because there's no more on Discogs right now? I take it you don't like the current pressing?
aussievintage Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, eman said: I wouldn't. I don't even like a bad scratch. That's what AT3600L carts with 0.6 mil conical styluses at 3 grams are for
jbgti Posted November 24, 2019 Author Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, aussievintage said: How neat is the crack? If it matches up again perfectly, with no chips, yes, you can probably get it to play. Definitely try a cheap stylus the first time - don't risk an expensive one, a listen carefully for problems. A small drop of superglue on the lead in edge may help stabilise it. Make sure you cue up after the glue when you play it. I would digitise it as soon as you can, so you have a copy. Is a clean crack no gaps or missing bits. Might try super glue nothing to loose. It’s already stuffed. Yep need a cheap stylus to see how it goes. Deffo not trying it out with the current one. 1 hour ago, eman said: I wouldn't. I don't even like a bad scratch. AT/GP . George Piros mid 1970s ? 5 digit matrix ? Is it rare because there's no more on Discogs right now? I take it you don't like the current pressing? It’s the mid 70’s Piros master. I already had a copy but it has groove damage. thought I would try and get another. This one looks hardly played. Am pretty bummed it’s stuffed. I like the Piros master more than the Classic records one I have. Haven’t heard the new Release . What’s it like?
jbgti Posted November 24, 2019 Author Posted November 24, 2019 It’s this one Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin (1974, MO - Monarch Pressing, Vinyl) | Discogs WWW.DISCOGS.COM Label: Atlantic - SD 8216 • Format: Vinyl LP, Album, Reissue MO - Monarch Pressing • Country: US • Genre: Rock •... 1
aussievintage Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, jbgti said: Might try super glue nothing to loose. I must stress. Don't use glue anywhere near the grooves you want to play. It will ooze out and block them. Glue it right on the very edge where you won't put down a stylus. 1
aussievintage Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 I will also say, I do this all the time on old 78s. Haven't tried it on an LP. I remember as a kid, we had a 45 that was cracked partway, and you could just push it back so it was aligned, and it would play.
audiofeline Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 Perhaps check the grooves under a microscope after gluing to check if some has seeped into the groove. You may be able to do a restoration of the groove if glue does get in there. I would think in a worst case scenario it would be like a piece of debris in the groove that causes a needle-jump. But best try to keep it away from the groove.
jeromelang Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 My laser player may be able to play it...
eman Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 4 hours ago, jbgti said: It’s this one Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin (1974, MO - Monarch Pressing, Vinyl) | Discogs WWW.DISCOGS.COM Label: Atlantic - SD 8216 • Format: Vinyl LP, Album, Reissue MO - Monarch Pressing • Country: US • Genre: Rock •... Ah yes. A Monarch Piros. A good combination I have on other albums. Sorry I haven't heard LZ I current.
aussievintage Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 39 minutes ago, audiofeline said: erhaps check the grooves under a microscope after gluing to check if some has seeped into the groove. No don't even try to glue in areas where you want to play the grooves. Glue will seep into them for sure. Just stabilise it with glue at the end of the crack (edge of the record. If the other end of the crack passes near the label, you might add a drop there after the leadout grooves.
t_mike Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 I have an Aussie pressing of Mahavishnu's Inner Mounting Flame that is cracked through from the spindle hole all the way to the outer edge. By very carefully lining it up I can play both sides through without even a single click emanating from the crack. As stated above, if there is no material missing, and it can be aligned properly, it should play OK. 1
audiofeline Posted November 25, 2019 Posted November 25, 2019 13 hours ago, aussievintage said: No don't even try to glue in areas where you want to play the grooves. Glue will seep into them for sure. Just stabilise it with glue at the end of the crack (edge of the record. If the other end of the crack passes near the label, you might add a drop there after the leadout grooves. I was thinking it might seep into the lead-in groove by accident. I agree, keep it away from the playing area, the glue is to stabalise the break, not to repair it.
jbgti Posted November 25, 2019 Author Posted November 25, 2019 Great. Thanks for the advice everyone. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin (1974, MO - Monarch Pressing, Vinyl) | Discogs WWW.DISCOGS.COM Label: Atlantic - SD 8216 • Format: Vinyl LP, Album, Reissue MO - Monarch Pressing • Country: US •
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