aussievintage Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 Aldi have records for sale this week https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-wed-21-august/wednesday-detail-wk34/ps/p/vinyl-records-1/ I bought a few just to see what this "Musicbank" label is like. I just put the Frank Sinatra album on, and it actually sounds quite good. Nice quiet, thick vinyl. The sound is very much like the original Capitol recordings of the era - not bad. Will report back after I play some more. 2
metal beat Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 They are called Bootlegs. Someone should call ARIA and have Aldi shut down and stop selling them stay away and support the artist not crooks. 2
aussievintage Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 Really? I am surprised. They actually have fine print on the cover saying they have licensed the music for home use. Oh well....
rantan Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 42 minutes ago, metal beat said: They are called Bootlegs. Someone should call ARIA and have Aldi shut down and stop selling them stay away and support the artist not crooks. 100% correct. I hate Aldi anyway and this is just one more reason to avoid them forever. Shut down sounds great to me. 1
wasabijim Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 my brother got me 3 items a few years back when they did a similar sale. They were all legit releases and without fault. AC/DC - Back In Black Album, LP, Reissue, Remastered Columbia - 5107651, Albert Productions - 5107651, Sony Music - 5107651 2009 Kings Of Leon - Only By The Night 2 x Vinyl, Album, LP RCA - 88697 32712 1, Sony BMG Music Entertainment - 88697 32712 1 2008 Bruce Springsteen - Born In The U.S.A. Album, LP, Reissue, Remastered Columbia - QC 38653 2015 3
eman Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) Possible euro pressings of public domain out of Copyright stuff ? A lot of that around. Edited August 21, 2019 by eman 2
aussievintage Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 I am still not convinced. It seems Musicbank was a UK or European company, and the label and sleeve has the MCPS logo. Really should be legit. 1
metal beat Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 I contacted ARIA licensing today and they have already replied on email. they are taking this issue up this tomorrow with Music Rights Australia to stop Aldi selling this unlicenseded crap http://www.musicrights.com.au/ btw - Guns and Roses is not out of copyright, it is stealing plain and simple. DO THE RIGHT THING AND DO NOT BUY FROM ALDI. 7
metal beat Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, aussievintage said: I am still not convinced. It seems Musicbank was a UK or European company, and the label and sleeve has the MCPS logo. Really should be legit. if it makes you feel better, you can think its legit - Anyone with half a brain would know its suspect at the very least. Guns and Roses have licensed their songs to Musicbank incorporated out of HK on a UK shelf company - give me break.
rantan Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, metal beat said: I contacted ARIA licensing today and they have already replied on email. they are taking this issue up this tomorrow with Music Rights Australia to stop Aldi selling this unlicenseded crap http://www.musicrights.com.au/ btw - Guns and Roses is not out of copyright, it is stealing plain and simple. DO THE RIGHT THING AND DO NOT BUY FROM ALDI. Could not agree more. Thanks for contacting ARIA. Cheers. 3
aussievintage Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 1 minute ago, rantan said: Could not agree more. Thanks for contacting ARIA. Cheers. I look forward to the headlines However, if this stuff isn't legit, what about all those CDs and DVDs in Reject and Dollars and Sense and Crazy Clark etc. They never do anything about them, but they've been selling them for years. btw. I did see some vinyl in these stores recently too.
aussievintage Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, metal beat said: Guns and Roses have licensed their songs to Musicbank incorporated out of HK on a UK shelf company - give me break. MCPS? According to wikipedia "MCPS also represents songwriters, composers and music publishers – representing their mechanical rights, and collects royalties whenever their music is reproduced as a physical product – this includes CDs, DVDs, digital downloads and broadcast or online." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRS_for_Music
BLAH BLAH Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 Phew have to be quick, got my copy of frankie this arvo...I did it my wayyyyy!!!! 2
Wimbo Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 I always shop at ALDI. 5 minutes from me. Stuff Coles and Woolworths. Buy my meat from a butcher and buy second hand Vinyl usually. Except for the Latest RSD Four Way Street. 2 1
aussievintage Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wimbo said: I always shop at ALDI. 5 minutes from me. Stuff Coles and Woolworths. exactly 3 1
ThirdDrawerDown Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 I have a test for anyone who says the record companies are looking out for the artists, as compared to, say, looking out for themselves. Did the wronged party in the Men At Work Kookaburra Land Down Under case, ever get a cent of the money the court said was due to them? Last thing I heard was that somehow the money got stuck in the clutches of their own record company, like a lolly wrapper stuck on a fingertip. Maybe the company weren't shaking their fingers very hard. Bit of a shame, considering several people believe the dispute contributed to Greg Ham's early death. 2
LogicprObe Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 Record Companies behave exactly the same way as Banks! 2 1
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted August 21, 2019 Volunteer Posted August 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Wimbo said: I always shop at ALDI. 5 minutes from me. Stuff Coles and Woolworths. Buy my meat from a butcher and buy second hand Vinyl usually. Except for the Latest RSD Four Way Street. I buy meat from Aldi too, but only the stuff that is out of copyright 5 3
audiofeline Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 5 hours ago, aussievintage said: Really? I am surprised. They actually have fine print on the cover saying they have licensed the music for home use. Oh well.... The fine print is convincing, isn't it? 1 1
aussievintage Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 10 hours ago, audiofeline said: The fine print is convincing, isn't it? Both that, and the use of the mcps logo/label make it look legit. It would be fairly blatent is it were all lies. Not sure how obligated customers, and even Aldi themselves are, when it comes to researching the claims. Maybe the fault lies upstream somewhere. Can you query mcps to see if the fees have been paid? They might well have been, even the Gun's and Roses' record is just a live concert and maybe they decided to let others release it and just collect the royalties, if that's how it works. I am interested to know what ARIA do about @metal beat's report.
audiofeline Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 4 hours ago, aussievintage said: ... Not sure how obligated customers, and even Aldi themselves are, when it comes to researching the claims. Maybe the fault lies upstream somewhere... The manufacturers, importers, distributors and retailers all have a legal obligation to ensure they operate ethically. That's why there are laws which can prosecute all of them. They are in place in order to protect the consumer, who, in Australia, should be confident to make purchases which are all legit.
EV Cali Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Just purchased the Bob Marley LP. Excellent recording and some great playing. Appears to be widely available on the net. https://www.discogs.com/Bob-Marley-And-The-Wailers-Live-Boston-Music-Hall-June-8th-1978/release/11950881 And looks like it was first released on CD by Island as Easy Skanking in Boston 78. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy_Skanking_in_Boston_'78 I would not buy a Pirated copy of a standard Lp but I do own several Bootleg, Live recordings ,so if this is a Live Bootleg I can't say it bothers me that much. Will probably buy the CD now to get the extra tracks. 1 1
audiofeline Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, EV Cali said: Just purchased the Bob Marley LP. Excellent recording and some great playing. Appears to be widely available on the net. https://www.discogs.com/Bob-Marley-And-The-Wailers-Live-Boston-Music-Hall-June-8th-1978/release/11950881 And looks like it was first released on CD by Island as Easy Skanking in Boston 78. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy_Skanking_in_Boston_'78 ... Given the good sound quality, I wonder if the the LP was mastered from the CD source, which would make it a pirate given the official Island CD release.
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