2channel2 Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 Just curiously researching what people prefer to use to calibrate a new home theatre. I prefer not to use the setup mic out of the box as I have always used a spl meter over it. I have heard they are getting pretty accurate these days.. I have not used one since I discovered the settings in some of the old sony and yamaha receivers were unaccurate. Denons new avrs apparently have some decent calibration...
Electra Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 I have set up a couple of current Denons, and a couple of current Yamahas. Its arse, to my ears. EQ's the speakers to sound like their firing through cotton wool, and they run the sub crossover far too high for my preference, so that everything has a deep boom to go with it.
2channel2 Posted October 14, 2010 Author Posted October 14, 2010 thats good to know. I was at a Denon PK last night and apparently their new setup mic is the best in the world, its better than what an installer can do with the 'right' tools.
Ayou21553552688 Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 I used to always set-up manually because like you I reckon they used to do an awful job ..... but IME the new Denons set-up gets it very right. I set mine up manually, ran it for a few weeks, then used the mic & I'd be splitting hairs to pick a difference. It actually improved things alot for music.
Brian Ono Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 I find the denon Mic system ok my only gripe is with some of the source content which requires a little fine tuning .Its mainly the sub output I adjust.
Guest Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 too_tall;135560 wrote: I have set up a couple of current Denons, and a couple of current Yamahas. Its arse, to my ears. EQ's the speakers to sound like their firing through cotton wool, and they run the sub crossover far too high for my preference, so that everything has a deep boom to go with it. Ditto plus it keeps over-riding my preferred speaker settings. Hi-fi in the pejorative sense.
Draken Posted October 17, 2010 Posted October 17, 2010 Brian Ono;135595 wrote: I find the denon Mic system ok my only gripe is with some of the source content which requires a little fine tuning .Its mainly the sub output I adjust. Yeah i'm in the same boat. I run my Audyssey calibration for all 8 point on my AVR-2808 then check all levels with a SPL then spend an hour or so tweaking the sub to get a nice transition between that and the rest of my system - works a treat for me! Mike.
me21553552755 Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 too_tall;135560 wrote: I have set up a couple of current Denons, and a couple of current Yamahas. Its arse, to my ears. EQ's the speakers to sound like their firing through cotton wool, My Yamaha RX-V465 was sounding like that until I discovered what was going on. The default EQ is to equalise all speakers to a common setting. However in one of the menus there is an option to set it to 'Front' where YPAO will only adjust EQ on the other speakers to match the fronts. That works much better for me as I have my best speakers for the front stereo and only average ones for the centre and surrounds at the moment. Now there is very little difference in audio quality when switching from 'straight' to 'direct'. I always run YPAO first then manually check and adjust parameters after it has done it's thing.
Ernie1553552694 Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 2channel2;135563 wrote: thats good to know. I was at a Denon PK last night and apparently their new setup mic is the best in the world, its better than what an installer can do with the 'right' tools. You must work at HN or similar. Will you set up any demo units with the new tools from Denon?
Dunnersfella1553552754 Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 Strawberry Sound? They do Denon... so does Top Hifi in Chch.
Brian Ono Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 me2;139874 wrote: My Yamaha RX-V465 was sounding like that until I discovered what was going on. The default EQ is to equalise all speakers to a common setting. However in one of the menus there is an option to set it to 'Front' where YPAO will only adjust EQ on the other speakers to match the fronts. That works much better for me as I have my best speakers for the front stereo and only average ones for the centre and surrounds at the moment. Now there is very little difference in audio quality when switching from 'straight' to 'direct'. I always run YPAO first then manually check and adjust parameters after it has done it's thing. I ended up having to match my speaker cable to my 3 front matching speakers as the difference caused a audible imbalance.In my other surround system (for my sky) I put a better quality speaker and cable as the centre and it really improved the whole system.
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