Tonto Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I'm amazed at how Photography crosses over with audio. I'm on my first SLR camera and after alot of forums/magazines/gear threads I hit the same theories! Film (full manual SLR with Prime Lenses) shooting is all about taking time making the most of the composition, picking the right time of day, subject, enjoying the process. Sound Familar? Vinyl or well matched Source Amp Speaker Setup. Then 35mm AF Zoom Rangefinder Easy to carry, shoot quickly, don't have to be in optimal conditions - doesn't get best results but better than none at all. Sounds like a walkman/discman to me! Digital point and shoot- As above but can shoot as many shots as you want no need to be selective, easy to copy and share, no real knowledge required just play any songs from your collection any time anywhere. iPod! Digital SLR - changable lens lets you have convenience (big zoom and AF for walkaround) or specific Prime for best quality and use manual focus for absolute accuracy. Plenty of space for high quality shots (RAW) yet can still use auto options and jpeg if just a beginner. Computer Audio - I even share the media a similar way with photos stored on my NAS and accessed via media players/screens around the house. They all have their merits and just like in audio - there are gear heads with their fabulous leica lenses as well as people who go crazy with secondhand lenses on cheap camera bodies. The presence of digital and photoshop has changed from a very niche hobby to one enjoyed by many for better or worse. Anyone else find simularities with their photography or other hobbies? Keep it related to Audio too For those who enjoy Photography I have just purchased a Pentax K7 DSLR with a Sigma 17-70 (2.8-4.5) Lens - also have an old Pentax M50 2.0 with man focus/aperture and a Pentax DAL 55-300 coming soon
nixon76 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I thought the other day that Wine (and it's appreciation) is another parallel with Audio. If you think through from the buyers of Marke Spu and Italiano Spumante who just wanna get drunk, through to the buyers of $1000+ bottles who can appreciate and taste the difference between vintages etc, plus all the layers in between. Each opposite have the same level of derision? for the other than in audiophillia. Screw caps vs cork, digital vs vinyl
markvetnz Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I am interested in both. In fact photography has taken over as my main focus (excuse pun) lately. Same upgrade principles apply. I started with a 50D and recently upgraded to a 5d MarkII. I also keep on buying all sorts of odds and ends. Now its a new laptop and photoshop cs5. Both hobbies cost me heaps, although hi fi is in the lead by a long way. Photography's main advantage is that at the high end there are more punters so economies of scale mean that a top end camera might cost between 4 and 10K for the body. Try buying a really high end amp for that. Maybe we should compare speakers to lenses. Some professional lenses can set you back 15K. Both are great hobbies. I wonder if the same sort of personality types are attracted to both. More women in photography though.
Nak-Mad Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Yep, I'd have to agree...I love both!! Definitely similar from the point of view of the upgrade path requiring an exponential increase in expenditure for ever decreasing gains at each step! I don't think the digital vs analogue debate is anywhere near as polarised in the photography world though if it really exists at all, and which I guess is 'media' related. Vinyl vs CD, always good for a discussion ... film vs digital.. wet chemical processing vs digital processing??.. no arguement from me... give me the latter.. much less hit and miss, cleaner, safer, and photoshop to play with.. and agree with Markvetnz.... just completed a couple of photo courses myself... 70% of the class in both cases were female members of the opposite sex...
nixon76 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Nak-Mad;129386 wrote: female members of the opposite sex vs...? LOL
Nak-Mad Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 nixon76;129381 wrote: I thought the other day that Wine (and it's appreciation) is another parallel with Audio. If you think through from the buyers of Marke Spu and Italiano Spumante who just wanna get drunk, through to the buyers of $1000+ bottles who can appreciate and taste the difference between vintages etc, plus all the layers in between. Each opposite have the same level of derision? for the other than in audiophillia. Screw caps vs cork, digital vs vinyl Wine is comparable in two ways..... as you say above in terms of appreciative values . and the cost for ever increasing appreciation.. but can also aid the listening process, ... the more consumed equals greater appreciation of the reproductive prowess of your system.. ..............though not necessarily a good practise for vinyl users :eek:
Electra Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I have many thousands tied up in my camera gear. And it sits in my wardrobe in its backpack 350 odd days of the year as its not something I can just sit down in the evening and enjoy. My hifi - it gets used probably 330 days a year. But I do love photography - and many people I know who are serious about their photography are also more than slightly interested in hifi also. P.S. I am on the dark side - Cannon, therefore could not possibly be considered a serious amateur photographer. And I use computer based audio as my main source, therefore cant possibly be considered a true audiofool.
Nak-Mad Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 nixon76;129387 wrote: vs...? LOL .. to quote Spike Milligan.. or one of the Goons.. or somebody else...
hal551553552752 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Totally second that, but there was no way I was going to the Uk and france last year without a decent camera to record it. Now if only they'd let me take photos inside St Pauls Cathedral...... Hal55
Nak-Mad Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 too_tall;129392 wrote: P.S. I am on the dark side - Cannon , therefore could not possibly be considered a serious amateur photographer. Que??? sounds like a 'Linnite' theorem.. serious amateur photographers only buy Nikon or have I grabbed the greasy end of the stick..??? ...love my Canon... tried a Nikon... unnecessarily complicated
NeilNZ Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 nixon76;129387 wrote: vs...? LOL the contradictory gender...?? I love the idea of photography, but I know that if I even peeked my head through the door of the hobby it would be a slippery and dangerous slide into oblivion!! One day maybe....
Guest Guest Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I, too, was into photograpy. In fact I was fairly obsessed, briefly, just before digital photography became the norm. I did a few courses, almost went to Uni. There was something nice about being in a darkroom with delicious young French women...........:rolleyes:
GGG Audio Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Advantage of photography is that if you're a hoarder like me, they take up way less space than collecting old audio gear..... Attached files
aarond1553552714 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 A camera to me is a means of recording some scenes, usually with the kids. Or big fish caught. Our Canon point and shoot camera is probably the equivalent of the DSE 'mini' system. But I'm happy with it and have no desire to ever upgrade it. Brother in law is a professional photographer, and his 'stereo' is an ipod in a $100 logitech dock. Horses for courses!
tkr001 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 My last "proper" camera was a Canon A1 with a variety of lenses, filters etc. In fact I think it is still in a cupboard somewhere but hasn't seen the light of day for decades.
ajst2duk Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Nak-Mad;129388 wrote: Wine is comparable in two ways..... as you say above in terms of appreciative values . and the cost for ever increasing appreciation.. but can also aid the listening process, ... the more consumed equals greater appreciation of the reproductive prowess of your system.. ..............though not necessarily a good practise for vinyl users :eek: I agree, but through trial and error I can say there is a utility curve at play here, just enought and the music slides out of the speakers like liquid honey, just a bit more and the volume starts to creep up, changes music to Muse or Radiohead, thinks it sounds great but just a bit more maxed would be good - one more bottle of red and dad is slumped in the chair unconsious !!! I am getting into photography as well just to get back on track, noticing that a few others do, the only time it coincides is when new piccys are required for ebay or forums. On the other hand, I also know quite a few of us are into motorbikes & cars as I doscovered when I was riding a ducati
glennb99 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I have to admit at being a photographer as well. I even help run a club and do a bit of judging around Auckland. Yes, you can certainly get into the upgrade mindset but let me propose an analogy (sort of). Cameras are more like musical instruments than hifi. Most photographers (as opposed to holiday snappers) might only upgrade lenses/cameras/software like a musician upgrades instruments/amps etc. There is a level of talent and they are intimatel connected to the quality of the result - they help create the end result. You can see where I'm going.... However a hifi buff can get improved enjoyment just from upgrading their equipment. Maybe their special talent is in listening?! So we have musicians, photographers and listeners. We need a qualification in listening! Jeez - that all sounds pretentious!
Tonto Posted August 3, 2010 Author Posted August 3, 2010 I have moved my spending from audio to photography now- I could use a new sub and still keen on Sonos when we have our own place but the sound is to the point I like it :eek:. In terms of daily use, its funny I take my camera out with me everywhere but don't take my ipod, go figure? I think its something about portable audio I never really got into as it kind of excludes you from everyone else-where's with photography it tends to have the opposite effect - all my 2c
Electra Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 glennb99;129412 wrote: Cameras are more like musical instruments than hifi. Most photographers (as opposed to holiday snappers) might only upgrade lenses/cameras/software like a musician upgrades instruments/amps etc. There is a level of talent and they are intimatel connected to the quality of the result - they help create the end result. You can see where I'm going.... I agree actually, and I would also claim that the biggest case of upgraditis I ever have with photography is myself. I like my 50D body, its excellent. I love my 1Ds3 body, its truly at the top of its game. Good thing I didnt have to pay full retail though. I would never actually buy one at full retail - think of buying a $250K set of speakers, laws of diminishing returns set in well before you get to that! But camera bodies are just a tool. The Lenses are where the real quality lies - if I put my 200 F2.8 on my 50D and put, lets say, my 100-400 on my 1Ds3, the 50D will give a sharper, truer image with better contrast... I dont get too swept up in the lenses, I just put on whatever gives me the range and light gathering I need, preferably without straining my neck.
Owen Y Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 That's a sweet Canonet(?) GGG. Cool vintage Rangefinders is what the :cool: dudes are into, I'm told. I've been into photography since the distant days, still have a sm collection, of old SLRs, a Leica or two... but tend to use a pocketable digicam these days more fun than schlepping kgs of Nikkor gear around. Des wouldn't approve.
glennb99 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Owen Y;129421 wrote: That's a sweet Canonet(?) GGG. Cool vintage Rangefinders is what the :cool: dudes are into, I'm told. I've been into photography since the distant days, still have a sm collection, of old SLRs, a Leica or two... but tend to use a pocketable digicam these days more fun than schlepping kgs of Nikkor gear around. Des wouldn't approve. I'm off to Ruapehu with the photography club this weekend -armed with my Nikon D90 but not much in the way of lenses. Let me know if you want to pass on a Leica - I used to have a lovely Contax rangefinder and would like to have one again! But then again, I could use those funds for a nice lens on the Nikon ....
chiba Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I have a 4x5 monorail (complete with big black cloth over my head, cartoon stylee), a wooden 6x9 field camera that's very pretty indeed, various TLRs and roll film folders, various 35mm SLRs, and a couple of rangefinders. These days I shoot a couple of Canon 20D digitals. Boring, but efficient. (
damocles Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 My camera collection is more notable than my audio collection. Have a Canon DSLR and a bunch of L and other glass, an Oly 4/3s system and a micro 4/3s system. Also looking at full frame soon. Motives for collecting are similar for me.
Owen Y Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I reckon these guys are cool... Tokyo Camera Style
Phred1553552723 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 A number parallels Both “hobbies” polarise (Pun intended) opinions Both cost shiploads It is easy to get obsessed with both You can bore the politely interested but non-addicted to the point of violence with an impassioned speech on the various merits of your latest acquisition. Main difference I can get paid to shoot images Yet to get some one to pay me to listen to music More curious as to why a large number of “audiophiles” are petrol heads (More in the past than the present)
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