alisam Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I sort of understand that the Freeview channels are spread across a number of 'muxes'. What I want to know is, what channels are on the same mux. The bottom line is, I need to know what I can and cannot record/watch when using a PVR e.g. forthcoming Tivo. Can someone list what channels are on what mux and give an example of what you can and cannot do as regards recording/watching TV programmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunzy Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 alisam;106083 wrote: I sort of understand that the Freeview channels are spread across a number of 'muxes'. What I want to know is, what channels are on the same mux. The bottom line is, I need to know what I can and cannot record/watch when using a PVR e.g. forthcoming Tivo. Can someone list what channels are on what mux and give an example of what you can and cannot do as regards recording/watching TV programmes. TVNZ TV Works Kordia You can record anything from two muxes and watch any other programme in either of those muxes. You cant watch anything from the 3rd mux. Eg,Rec TV1,TV3, Watch any other TVNZ or TV works(TV3,C4,TV3+1) channel,or watch something previously recorded on the hard drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan1553552671 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 The above post lists the channels on the TV3 mux - the others are TVNZ: 1, 2, 6, 7; Kordia: everything else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisam Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 So to re-cap: TVNZ = 1, 2, 6, 7 TV Works = 3, 4, 3+1 hour Kodia = Everthing else A few thoughts... a) Can I record a program on TV1 and a program on TV2 at the same time i.e both are on the same mux? b) From what you have said, I can record a program on any 2 muxes e.g TV1 and TV3. c) If I am recording 2 programs simulataneously then I can only watch 1 of the 2 programs I am recording. For example, I may record programs on TV1 and TV3, watch the first 30 minutes of TV1 and then stop watching. Later I can watch the rest of the TV1 program. Sorry to be pedantic, but it is better to know now than after I have bought a PVR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan1553552671 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 a) yes - with a twin tuner PVR you will have two tuners that are seperately capable of tuning in all channels b) yes c) no, it's more flexible than I think you are saying - while you will only be able to record two channels at once (and any two channels from any mux), you can also watch a third channel. The limiting factor here is that the third channel must be from one of the two muxes currently being recorded - eg if you're recording TV1 and TV3, you'll be able to select from either the Media Works or TVNZ mux, but not from the Kordia mux. (I'm assuming the twin tuner units give access to both tuners' other channels on the same mux; I've got a single tuner PVR-ready Freeview box, so can't 100% vouch for this, but I'm sure the principle is the same). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan1553552671 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I've been thinking a bit more on this issue, and have a question of my own: if my $250 PVR-ready Freeview box can record two channels on the same mux off a single tuner onto a USB hard drive, how come the dedicated twin-tuner PVRs cannot record three or four channels (ie recording up to 2 channels per mux per tuner)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallop Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Software limitation I would say. I have 3 tuners in my pc and have tested recording half a dozen channels at a time. All seemed good. Also you wolud think that pvr's with 3 or more tuners would be coming out. This way you could handle all the muxes at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mycenius Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 May also be box size constraint - limited real estate - i.e. the space on the motherboard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan1553552671 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 jonathan;106271 wrote: c) no, it's more flexible than I think you are saying - while you will only be able to record two channels at once (and any two channels from any mux), you can also watch a third channel. The limiting factor here is that the third channel must be from one of the two muxes currently being recorded - eg if you're recording TV1 and TV3, you'll be able to select from either the Media Works or TVNZ mux, but not from the Kordia mux. (I'm assuming the twin tuner units give access to both tuners' other channels on the same mux; I've got a single tuner PVR-ready Freeview box, so can't 100% vouch for this, but I'm sure the principle is the same). Looks like not all are as flexible as I thought - considering the price of this Panasonic unit, seems a bit cheeky... The Panasonic DMR-BW850 comes with a twin DVB-T receiver and you can watch a program while recording another, or record two programs at the same time. Interesting though I found out you can watch one program while recording another, but if you are recording two programs then you can only watch one of the two - regardless of mux being used. Other DVRs I test would allow me to record two programs and still watch a third one. Source: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=8482 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffy Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I now have 4 tuners in my HTPC, However with just 3 tuners I can record ALL freeview channels at once - and watch any of the recording, or now I can use the 4th tuner to channel surf. TV3 and TVNZ HD seams to stream @ 1.66meg per second PrimeTV streams @ 0.47meg per second My hard drive can sustain about 40meg per second, I would think these PVR could easily record all channels as they have less overheads than a PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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