michaelw Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Are the G10's with THX mode heading this way ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess9 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I would like THX mode as well. Cannot locate one set in NZ with this feature. Panasonic it would seem have brought in the "cheaper" models this year (which they still sell at last years price points - which were for the better rated models). E.g. PZ 850 was the top model - now replaced with the G10 (which is about 2 models below top for 2009). Can anyone more informed correct me re THX mode as of now in store??? Wonder if 2010 will bring Kuro tech to Panasonic models? Maybe worth waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonsey Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I'm fairly sure that the new V Series Panasonics are THX certified. HN at Mt Wellington have got the 50" in stock and it looks mighty nice (I was buying an ink cartridge for my printer yesterday and took a little "detour" to the AV section...as you do!). The panel is surprisingly slim and imo has far superior aesthetics compared to the G and S models. The outer bezel is really thin and it has a smooth "one-pane-of-glass" frontage. RRP $4700. The 58" V that's coming later in the year should be even more awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Beale Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 We have always had stripped out versions in the Pacific, EBU. Our early models are missing a few hidden features, mostly the consumer does not notice. The latest ones are mostly the same, abiet they have different boards for the localised Freeview. Even the just released Premiere model has one function different to the USA model, it wasn't needed for our market dominated by the 50hz signal. In any event the THX modes like the ISF modes in the Premiere are for dialing in the panels. The modes are usually better out of the box than the traditional defaults, however the realtionship is, "The better the start point the better the result". Still this doesn't answer the question of THX modes in our NZ models. PNZ should be able to comment about the specifics. Oh the Pioneer/Panasonic thing is a rumor. Pioneer was only going to use Panasonic panels to base their own electronics upon, however this idea was abandoned along the Plasma line. Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess9 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Great. Haven't seen the V here yet. Good to know its arrived. UK model has THX, hope NZ/AUS keep this. Wife likes the 46 LED sammy. V may be better TV overall, and if thin (a must for "the look" in the room - as we will wall mount above a fire) it is a contender. Now just need the prices to get around 3K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clevedon Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Jess9;105339 wrote: (a must for "the look" in the room - as we will wall mount above a fire) Oh No!:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixon76 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Jess9;105339 wrote: (a must for "the look" in the room - as we will wall mount above a fire) I understand the need to do this but do consider the following: There must be a mantle/ledge between the fire and telly, so direct heat rising from the fire doesn't literally melt the telly off the wall (it happens apparently). If the mantle is fire resistant it can be I think 30cm from the top of the fire. If it's not fireresistant (i.e. wood) it has to be alot higher. All of this pushes the telly height up. The wall material it's mounted to should be fire resistant (the same stuff that has to be legally put around the fire (at least for gas fires)). The wall can get hot which isn't good for the telly either. Depending on the distance you are from the telly, mounting it anything more than 1-1.5m* off the ground will make your chiropractor rich (fixing all the ricks in your necks from looking unnaturally 'up' at the telly). A telly mounted too high (due to a tall fireplace or just in general) looks naff IMO. Re the last one, we spent ages looking for a (gas) fire that would fit 'under' our telly (so as not to ruin the telly height) - so it was low and wide - but it was going to cost 12k :eek: so that idea quickly got the boot. * Mine is 1m off the floor, and would have pushed to 1.2m to fit the above mentioned fire + mantle in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallop Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Got my 50" V10 last weekend and they do have a THX mode. Got it from Harvey Normans, I was told that they had bulk purchased the first 2 container loads so nobody else will have stock at the moment. I'm running it in THX mode with the contrast and colour turned down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallop Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Ours will be mounted above a fire (replacing one that was already there). We did not want a mantle so recessed the plasma in to the wall. The front of the plasma is about 10mm in from the wall gib. Spoke to the technical people at real fires first and they said this allows the heat to rise in front of the plasma and should not cause any problems. They warned that if doing this the whole plasma must be recessed, you do not want 1 or 2 mm sticking out as this will direct the heat behind the plasma. The biggest problem we had was routing the flue behind the plasma cavity. Had to get custom bends made up. As for wall construction you only need fire rated material if the fire itself is recessed into the wall. Fire rated DOES NOT include the fyre line gib. Of course this depends on the fire you are putting in. Different manufactures have different rules. We always run the fire with the fan on which pushes heat away from the plasma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 wallop;105343 wrote: Got my 50" V10 last weekend and they do have a THX mode. Got it from Harvey Normans, I was told that they had bulk purchased the first 2 container loads so nobody else will have stock at the moment. I'm running it in THX mode with the contrast and colour turned down. Thx Wallop. Got a friend looking for a new TV, I'll send him down to HN. Q- In THX mode aren't the normal adjustments fixed ? Wouldn't making them adjustable defeat the whole purpose of a THX preset ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixon76 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 wallop;105345 wrote: Ours will be mounted above a fire (replacing one that was already there). We did not want a mantle so recessed the plasma in to the wall. The front of the plasma is about 10mm in from the wall gib. Spoke to the technical people at real fires first and they said this allows the heat to rise in front of the plasma and should not cause any problems. They warned that if doing this the whole plasma must be recessed, you do not want 1 or 2 mm sticking out as this will direct the heat behind the plasma. The biggest problem we had was routing the flue behind the plasma cavity. Had to get custom bends made up. As for wall construction you only need fire rated material if the fire itself is recessed into the wall. Fire rated DOES NOT include the fyre line gib. Of course this depends on the fire you are putting in. Different manufactures have different rules. We always run the fire with the fan on which pushes heat away from the plasma. Yes - forgot about the recessed route. That has it's own issues (i.e. is there ventilation for the heat rising from the plasma itself etc etc). As always consult the fireplace installer/retailer. It's not something you want to get wrong :eek: But this is digressing I feel . Might have to nip down to MtWell HN and have a gawk at this V10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonsey Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 wallop;105343 wrote: Got my 50" V10 last weekend and they do have a THX mode. Got it from Harvey Normans, I was told that they had bulk purchased the first 2 container loads so nobody else will have stock at the moment. I'm running it in THX mode with the contrast and colour turned down. Any initial impressions on performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallop Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 The THX mode is just another mode like cinema, game. I had to turn the contrast and colour down (both set to 50 by default). I like the picture. Comparing it to the old Pioneer LX508 I had I'm just as happy with this one. I will still tweak the settings but will wait until it has clocked up a few hours. The built in freeview tuner is a big plus. I do prefer the style of the Pioneer. Also I drove floorstanding speakers from the Pioneer which gave a bloody good sound. The Panasonic does not have speaker connections so I now rely on the builtin speaker which is not as good. You can take optical out to a receiver but as I don't have one no good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess9 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Thanks very much guys re fire and ideas around this. Thanks. PS I see LG have released a LED with local dimming, should give sammy some competition for 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Had a quick peek at a THX V10 at HN this morning. Looked OK. Still don't understand why anything is adjustable in THX mode... That's just asking for trouble. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mycenius Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I know where you can get some rilly gd lud THX reddy spekrs 2 go wth ur THX tv! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Beale Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Michael, for the reasons I outlined previously. Like your audio system changes when run in, panels change, in both cases the change is just a change and the result may not be accurate. Having the controls in the user means one doesn't have to go into service menus which should be for servicing not image adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 The only thing is the THX mode is supposed to adhere to a THX standard for display settings, unlike the other modes which are largely arbitrary, hence the feeling that any adjustments should be locked away in a service menu. I eagerly await watching the first THX Panasonic in glorious THX torch mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Beale Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 THX does not set the standards, neither does ISF for that matter. SMPTE sets the standards for which Video production, broadcasters and manufactures are meant to adhere too. The 2 organisations THX,ISF are just simply trying to spread the word to you the consumer why the consumer should follow those same standards, hence the manufactures now (By campaigning by THX,ISF) are selling display systems with modes that can be adjusted within close tolerences to those fore mentioned standards. The whole process is a re education of the public to what is important, now we have pretty much released ourselves from the shackles of the CRT era which was influenced by the public moths* and selling product demand. *moths=Humans like bright colourful things, like moths. CRT's became so overdriven by the need for subjective brightness that accuracy was very much a casulty. Brightness is actually a subjective discription with no actual measure, however the discription is easier to understand than the words, Luminance, Iluminance which actually discribe a measured value. Of course then there is the manufacture(global) error of using the word brightness to set black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess9 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hi Masterpiece. So the new THX mode on the V10 is adjustable (but just to allow for panel aging/room variance conditions) within limited "THX" parameters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikees Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Lot's of setting information on this site which is specific for the V10. Beware it is American & I would also steer clear of the service menu stuff. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1170175 Some good stuff but most have different settings as each set is a little different. Most seem to find the THX setting to dim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Beale Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Jess,The short answer, Yes. The ISF/THX modes in theory are much more accurate than the traditional modes and should have adjustable parameters to set a display to the reference standards in the environment to be viewed. You have to remember that in the broadcast production world displays for reference have to be adjustable, things vary, shift and age. It is not uncommon for reference CRT's to be adjusted at least once a day, some required reseting every few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Beale Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Haven't had a chance to look at a v model yet, so can't comment on settings. Excepting that every posted setup in that link is different, so the result will just be different. This has nothing to do with accuracy. If you also note no calibrator of worth bothers to post settings knowing to well that every display will/can be(is) different. Too dim. Dim=subjective brightness which is relative to the environment. If a display is to dim when set accurately and it runs out of puff to get higher luminance means you have chosen the wrong display type for your environment. So you either choose another display type, ie LCD/LED, top end Premire VX100 model which can get higher luminance values, or you alter your viewing conditions to match the capibilities of the display. As one does with a projector for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakley_nz Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 The respective 58" and 65" v10 will be in NZ next month--Mid November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts