Gary.M1553552674 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/qqy48m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T110 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I agree. Recently downloaded iTunes 9 and it is a real step backwards as well. They should give the two options. The full package for those who are into that gizmo crap or the I Just Want To Keep Things Simple package for people like me who arent into podcasts, streaming etc. I tried to find Lou Reeds albums on the iTunes Store and got about fifty. Only about ten or so were Lou's. All the others probably had a Lou Reed song or a small reference to Lou but man did my G5 suck the kumara trying to decipher all the info.:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuarth Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I'll be sticking with iTunes 8.2 - the Genius feature which was a major feature of v.8 never worked well for me as it seems biased towards purchases from the iTunes store. Apple do make some hardware to drool over though, like the new nano - so much tech in a tiny package - check out this teardown: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPod-nano-5th-Generation/1157/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipodes1553552706 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Agreed, but I have to say Apple appears to understand its customers a heck of a lot better than any of its competitors (for example Microsoft), and maybe it is a step in the right direction, if not quite on the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixon76 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Gary.M;102981 wrote: http://tinyurl.com/qqy48m Not quite sure what the reference is to? iTunes LP and it's technical make up? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I'm still trying to connect the title of this thread with the contents of the link. And keep drawing a blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarond1553552714 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 My guess is that the term 'LP' isn't what we'd think it to mean. When I first saw it I thought that at last they were going to sell some lossless music, under the 'LP' banner to associate with the popularity of the analogue source. But no, it is a collection of pictures that I'm not going to be needing as the computer ain't in the lounge where the stereo system is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixon76 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 aarond;103211 wrote: But no, it is a collection of pictures that I'm not going to be needing as the computer ain't in the lounge where the stereo system is. Good for me (but not for all ), as long it's available via the remote app on my Touch. Sitting on my couch 'flipping' through the album booklet - surely the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuarth Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Hmmm - coming back to the question of whether Apple 'gets it' or not: I don't think Apple suggest that luddites with their anachronistic analogue formats and musty cardboard sleeves should instead embrace a digital simulacrum of the experience. I think rather it's an acknowledgement that the digital format does lack something tangible, and they are trying to give those fortunate enough to own an iPhone or Touch some extra eye candy. Doesn't rock my boat but I don't have a problem with it either. The “deluxe album” format from the iTunes Store is an attempt to revitalize music sales by providing an immersive digital experience complete with detailed art reminiscent of when people used to buy records. Feature-wise, an iTunes LP is a DRM-free album in high-quality 256kbps AAC format, along with digital extras (visualizer(s), photos, videos and interviews) wrapped in a custom WebKit-powered site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I suspect that it's also a means to sell complete albums rather than individual tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarond1553552714 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Today's oxymoron is, children: High quality 256kb/s AAC audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
got tinnitus Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 i-tunes 9 is great.... I don't use all the graphic type gizmos but 9 is better in that the track fast scan now has no lag and I like the new column browser a lot. And the Import Settings can be changed at the 'Import CD' stage so no need to go into the Preferences to check or change import settings. Handy. Home sharing looks neat too. I might use it....one day. However, still no FLAC compatibility.... :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipodes1553552706 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 The daughter of a friend of mine is studying to become a designer. "Of what?", I asked. She replied that she would love to do CD or LP cover art, but since that was dying she thought she might do tattoo art instead. My retort was not to count album art out too quickly. I do believe we will use screens to select our music, whether a computer screen, or a screen run by a DAC, or a handheld connected to either, and it is already happening. As those screens get better we will value seeing the album art and more info than we we used to get in the good old days. I think this is a good trend and I think will eventually get to where we would like it to be. The younger generation, above anything else wants portability of their toys. They have been trained to use such toys to overcome micro-boredom, and of course those toys were initially very limited. It will take a while but sound quality will come back into it. It just isn't high on the mass market audience's priority list - yet. I still think that Apple is way ahead of any of its competitors in 'getting' their audience. They just haven't got to us yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixon76 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I was thinking the other day - should Apple offer CD quality (i.e. CD rip equivalent - probably as Apple Lossless) that might be the straw that breaks the physical CDs back. Could it be the labels stopping Apple doing this I wonder? Or course the storage requirements on their back end might take a hit, even if storage is 'cheap'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
got tinnitus Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 This below from that linked web site.....which I agree with but it would be nice to have the option of choosing 256 or lossless. People keep saying that they need higher quality, and I can appreciate that audiophiles simply want more options... but higher quality is not a panacea. iTunes has sold 8.5 BILLION songs... that's at an initially lower bitrate of 128kbps and then later at 256 kpbs aac. How many more would they have sold if they had gone up to lossless, or to SACD or DVD audio quality? Not many more... Audiophiles like yourself are an exclusive club... that's great because you get to enjoy your music that much more, but that also means that 99.99% of the music consumers aren't like you, and don't give a hoot about higher quality, especially when they'd mostly be listening to the songs on crappy iPod headphones in a noisy subway. You're welcome to keep asking for higher quality... it helped push Apple to double the bitrate once before... but higher quality for higher quality's sake is not a panacea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc1553552739 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I'm sure Steve Jobs doesn't even know what LP stands for, even if apple offered a lossless format - it'd be proprietary, then we'd all have to use itunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary.M1553552674 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 AudioEnz;103210 wrote: I'm still trying to connect the title of this thread with the contents of the link. And keep drawing a blank. The experience offered by a vinyl "LP" but packaged electronically, implying there is more value in the package, but by using compressed files missing the whole point about the superiority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixon76 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 markc;103259 wrote: if apple offered a lossless format - it'd be proprietary = Apple Lossless Or do you mean DRM'd? If there was ever a reason for Apple to bring back DRM, offering full res files would be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc1553552739 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 haha, dang we'll get there meant lossless downloads. i'd start buying from itunes store if they sold cd quality (or better), drm i'm not sure i'd accept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzer Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Gary.M;103270 wrote: The experience offered by a vinyl "LP" but packaged electronically, implying there is more value in the package, but by using compressed files missing the whole point about the superiority. Do you think the only good thing about LPs is the "superior" audio quality? Maybe you really don't get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary.M1553552674 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 bazzer;103326 wrote: Do you think the only good thing about LPs is the "superior" audio quality? Maybe you really don't get it... Its a package. The luxury of the album sleeve, notes, pics etc, and the sound quality. Apple are trying to trade off that but miss a key element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzer Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I just think that, for right or for wrong, most people don't care about the sound quality anymore. What Apple has done is introduce the equivalent of the other factors you mentioned for the digital age. What's wrong with that? Edit: I should add that I don't use iTunes and these iTunes LPs will not encourage me to use iTunes and even if they were lossless I would still not use iTunes, but I still think it's a pretty cool idea. Get people excited about albums as a package again. It doesn't always have to be about "sound quality". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Y Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Gary.M;103376 wrote: Its a package. The luxury of the album sleeve, notes, pics etc, and the sound quality. Apple are trying to trade off that but miss a key element. Not to mention… the savouring of the occasion, the preparatory rituals, the cleansing & purifying process, time-consuming attention to every detail… vinyl playing is not dissimilar to Japanese or Chinese teamaking ceremonies. It is not for those with packed appointment schedules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixon76 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 It like the time it takes is in fact a celebration that you have the time to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie1553552694 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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