Technics Turntables Owners Thread

[playdough]

On 07/06/2024 at 3:20 PM, metal beat said:

 

Yes, a little funky   Thales Simplicity 2. I also have a SME 3012-R on the back left - not connected at the moment.

 

 

Is that a solid copper platter ? Wow if so, lovely.

[metal beat]

9 hours ago, playdough said:

Is that a solid copper platter ? Wow if so, lovely.

 

Thanks, it's a Micro Seiko cu180.   They work brilliantly with SP10's.

[blownaway]

I wonder how closer the Technics latest SL1200GR2 is to the SL1200G now with the new and improved technology introduced to the GR2 

Edited June 20, 2024 by blownaway

[cafe latte]

10 hours ago, blownaway said:

I wonder how closer the Technics latest SL1200GR2 is to the SL1200G now with the new and improved technology introduced to the GR2 

I am curious when there will be a G2

Chris

[blownaway]

1 hour ago, cafe latte said:

I am curious when there will be a G2

Chris

Me too 

[cafe67]

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/best-turntables-technics-sl-1210gr2-review/

and starting to appear in shops 

 

https://www.apollohifi.com.au/technics-sl-1210gr2.html

 

Edited July 28, 2024 by cafe67

[RankStranger]

I’d be interested in peoples’ takes on the SL110.
 

for context, I currently have a stock SL1200 mk2 that I’m very happy with but in the interests of making my life more complicated and stressful, I’m getting the itch to Do Something

 

One option I’m considering is doing some KAB upgrades to the 1200, which I’m confident would lift its performance noticeably but doesn’t feel as "new". The other is trying to track down a 110 as a sort of project deck and find a nice tonearm to fit to it. The main reason for which is that I like how they look and I can’t afford a Thorens TD124  

 

I’m currently running an AT VM540 on the 1200 which I’m also pretty happy with. I’d consider a new cart, but I doubt I’d look beyond a DL103R or maybe a 2M black, both of which I’ve enjoyed in the past, so we’re not talking Lyra or Koetsu. I’ve had 4-figure MC carts and they give me terrible anxiety 

 

has anyone owned or does own an SL110 or have any thoughts as to how they compare with a stock or modded SL1200? Does anyone know what they’re worth (old classified prices have been deleted and Hifi shark was… inconclusive)? I think I’m across the differences to the 1100 and the 110 holds more appeal but any insight there would be welcome, too. 
 

cheers  

[mloutfie]

I used to own sl120 with few arms put into it. I would say technics quartz tt sound quite a bit better than their servo controlled ones. Which I thik sl110 is. If you have sl1200mk2 and do upgrade on it. Sl110 will dissapoint.

[cafe latte]

8 hours ago, RankStranger said:

I’d be interested in peoples’ takes on the SL110.
 

for context, I currently have a stock SL1200 mk2 that I’m very happy with but in the interests of making my life more complicated and stressful, I’m getting the itch to Do Something

 

One option I’m considering is doing some KAB upgrades to the 1200, which I’m confident would lift its performance noticeably but doesn’t feel as "new". The other is trying to track down a 110 as a sort of project deck and find a nice tonearm to fit to it. The main reason for which is that I like how they look and I can’t afford a Thorens TD124  

 

I’m currently running an AT VM540 on the 1200 which I’m also pretty happy with. I’d consider a new cart, but I doubt I’d look beyond a DL103R or maybe a 2M black, both of which I’ve enjoyed in the past, so we’re not talking Lyra or Koetsu. I’ve had 4-figure MC carts and they give me terrible anxiety 

 

has anyone owned or does own an SL110 or have any thoughts as to how they compare with a stock or modded SL1200? Does anyone know what they’re worth (old classified prices have been deleted and Hifi shark was… inconclusive)? I think I’m across the differences to the 1100 and the 110 holds more appeal but any insight there would be welcome, too. 
 

cheers  

The Kab mods are a big upgrade. The cheapest one probably makes the biggest difference ( silicone tube inside the arm) but you need to rewire the arm. The tube though only costs 5 bucks.

The damper, and the psu are well worth doing though too.

Re carts the 103r is a fab cart but it needs a way heavier arm than the Technics as they need at least 25g effective mass. When retipped thry can be adjusted to work with around 16g effective mass which is far more achievable with a heavy headshell.

Cheers

Chris

[RankStranger]

1 hour ago, cafe latte said:

The Kab mods are a big upgrade. The cheapest one probably makes the biggest difference ( silicone tube inside the arm) but you need to rewire the arm. The tube though only costs 5 bucks.

The damper, and the psu are well worth doing though too.

Re carts the 103r is a fab cart but it needs a way heavier arm than the Technics as they need at least 25g effective mass. When retipped thry can be adjusted to work with around 16g effective mass which is far more achievable with a heavy headshell.

Cheers

Chris

thanks, Chris

 

I’m pretty happy with the AT for now and my diy phono pre is only mm so I’m not thinking of a new cart for the minute, I only mentioned it to set a “ceiling” on future aspirations, I guess 

 

the KAB upgrades that made sense to me were the arm tube/rewiring, the damper, the rca plate (for cable futzing) and tonearm cable pcb. How do you rate their rewire kit? Is there a better option at or near the same money?

 

what do you recommend for the psu? I’m not sure I’ll have the budget for their external but I’m probably open to convincing  

[cafe latte]

On 05/08/2024 at 9:07 AM, RankStranger said:

thanks, Chris

 

I’m pretty happy with the AT for now and my diy phono pre is only mm so I’m not thinking of a new cart for the minute, I only mentioned it to set a “ceiling” on future aspirations, I guess 

 

the KAB upgrades that made sense to me were the arm tube/rewiring, the damper, the rca plate (for cable futzing) and tonearm cable pcb. How do you rate their rewire kit? Is there a better option at or near the same money?

 

what do you recommend for the psu? I’m not sure I’ll have the budget for their external but I’m probably open to convincing  

All Kab the external psu is amazing and the rewire kit is great too, but get the silicone tube too.

Chris

[cafe67]

https://www.hifipig.com/technics-sl-1300g-turntable/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR26paqb5IODEWJNmXjGpYlTi_1xm5F-MbPlV_YJcy3347HuSg3ak5Btmhk_aem_0lEvyawktaF9HVzUWJmTmw

 

https://the-ear.net/news/technics-δσ-drive-grand-class-sl-1300g-turntable/

@maxspl

Edited September 5, 2024 by cafe67

[maxspl]

Interesting.

The new SL1300G is only 13KG.

The current model SL1200G is 18KG.

Plus no strobe light and platter markings or pop up cartridge LED.

The SL1300G is significantly cheaper though at £2799 vs £3999 for the SL1200G.

Edited September 5, 2024 by maxspl

[Demondes]

It will be interesting to see how the SL1300G compares to the current SL1200G, given the price differential and a few features on the 1200 that a lot of people possibly don't even use. 

 

I assume the next step will be to release a new SL1200 G2 next year?  I guess the price would be over 10K AUD for that.

 

The new 1300 certainly looks good, and if performance matches they will be on a winner.  I didn't see any commentary on the tone arm, I guess they may have cheated there?  wont match the magnesium arm of the 1200G?

 

 

Edited September 5, 2024 by Demondes

[Tweaky]

I imagine it aimed at those who want a slick, minimalist design direct drive turntable.

The SL1300's Tonearm is Aluminum, unlike the SL1200G's cold drawn Magnesium, so that's another area that would have effected costing.

 

Is this Technics answer to a REGA Planar 3 ?

[cafe67]

3 hours ago, Demondes said:

It will be interesting to see how the SL1300G compares to the current SL1200G, given the price differential and a few features on the 1200 that a lot of people possibly don't even use. 

 

I assume the next step will be to release a new SL1200 G2 next year?  I guess the price would be over 10K AUD for that.

 

The new 1300 certainly looks good, and if performance matches they will be on a winner.  I didn't see any commentary on the tone arm, I guess they may have cheated there?  wont match the magnesium arm of the 1200G?

 

 

it will be interesting to see what technics release in the future , the sl1200gr2 is $3300, the sl1200g are $7200, but the sl1000r is a big jump at $35k they really could do with a 1/2 way model say $15-17k? 

Edited September 6, 2024 by cafe67

[Demondes]

21 hours ago, cafe67 said:

it will be interesting to see what technics release in the future , the sl1200gr2 is $3300, the sl1200g are $7200, but the sl1000r is a big jump at $35k they really could do with a 1/2 way model say $15-17k? 

Yes an interesting problem to have for Technics, too many premium features and too high a price likely won’t find people moving on from the SL1200G, but if there isn’t a large enough performance jump no one (like myself) will make the leap.

 

[metal beat]

The 1300G certainly looks better than any 1200 variety.   I am puzzled where it sits in the hierarchy from a sound perspective.

  The plater looks the same as the G @ 3.6kg but a lot less than the 7.9kg for the 1000R and 10kg for the legendary SP10mk3.

 

Edited September 7, 2024 by metal beat

[blownaway]

5 hours ago, metal beat said:

The 1300G certainly looks better than any 1200 variety.   I am puzzled where it sits in the hierarchy from a sound perspective.

  The plater looks the same as the G @ 3.6kg but a lot less than the 7.9kg for the 1000R and 10kg for the legendary SP10mk3.

 

I wonder if it has the new GR2 technology. But by the branding you advise, it appears not to 

[Mrkropotkin]

28 minutes ago, blownaway said:

I wonder if it has the new GR2 technology. But by the branding you advise, it appears not to 

Combining the incredible Delta Sigma Drive from GR2 with the 3 layer platter from the G along with the silent power supply from the SL-1000R all wrapped up in super clean aesthetics of the SL-1500C.     This is from Kevin Walker a technics rep etc on the New Gen  technics F/B site

[Tweaky]

11 hours ago, Mrkropotkin said:

Combining the incredible Delta Sigma Drive from GR2 with the 3 layer platter from the G along with the silent power supply from the SL-1000R all wrapped up in super clean aesthetics of the SL-1500C.     This is from Kevin Walker a technics rep etc on the New Gen  technics F/B site

 

Looking at what is comparable on the market to the SL-1300, I think Technics wanted something on the market , especially in Japan, that was priced/ spec'd / looked similar, to Denon's  DP-3000NE, which costs around $4600 in Australia.

https://www.hifinews.com/content/denon-dp-3000ne-turntable

[Mrkropotkin]

9 minutes ago, Tweaky said:

 

Looking at what is comparable on the market to the SL-1300, I think Technics wanted something on the market , especially in Japan, that was priced/ spec'd / looked similar, to Denon's  DP-3000NE, which costs around $4600 in Australia.

https://www.hifinews.com/content/denon-dp-3000ne-turntable

That was my thought too... They are trying to cover as many options as possible. They have spent a large amount on R and D    A new model every few years to cover it.

 

Edited September 7, 2024 by Mrkropotkin

[Tweaky]

Technics SL-1500C review.

https://hifiplus.com/articles/technics-sl-1500c-turntable/?utm_source=Default+hi-fi%2B+List&utm_campaign=b1f2544893-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2024_09_12_02_19&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-b1f2544893-[LIST_EMAIL_ID]&goal=0_ff6dfd0295-b1f2544893-162114501&mc_cid=b1f2544893&mc_eid=bf85029600

 

[maxspl]

 

New in depth review of the SL-1300G.

[stevoz]

As explained in the  "What in Analogue Have You Bought Today?" thread, I took the plunge on my 'end game' turntable, a new Technics SL1200GR2.

I had considered the 1200G but after copious research and review reads, for my needs I couldn't justify the extra 2 grand for it......and was not sure my 64 year old ears were going to really notice the difference in SQ. Besides, this will be a considerable upgrade on my current humble replinthed and upgraded belt drive CEC BD3200. It also has the Sigma Delta drive motor technology and same quieter power supply that is found in the 1200G.

I am planning to get a 5mm Funk Firm Achromat for it, following Michael Fremer's recommendation. He reckons it goes 'some' way to making up for any SQ loss from it's lighter version of the heavy platter on the 1200G.

Purchased from Japan, it's 100V but my Tortech 100V step down transformer has two outlets, so all good there. TT will be arriving early October. Excited.

 

Edited September 25, 2024 by stevoz