You Tube auditions??

[Audiofix]

I'm guessing this may have been discussed previously although searching throws nothing up.

 

What they hey is all this "here listen to my new cool stereo on my you tube video" or "this is what my new xyz multi $k speakers sound like" (cues CD on stereo system playing in a you tube video, we hear music play and somehow can judge how brilliant xyz speakers are??

 

How does this work?

 

I mean clearly it doesn't work but judging by the amount of inquires I have where this technique of auditioning products is mentioned as part of the decision making process I am a little concerned.

 

Thoughts?

 

[Guest]

There was a thread discussing this recently but I can't find it now.

 

What a ridiculous concept. I saw a vid the other day of a prominent "YT Reviewer" boasting that they had upgraded their mics so that "we" can all get an even better impression of how the components sound. I nearly spat my coffee on my keyboard!

 

I use the PC's internal DAC, paired through a cheap 3.5 cable to my lovely little Fostex monitors.

Everything I listen to, sounds like lovely little Fostex monitors regardless of whether I'm listening to a video of $200K+ Rockports or $20 Logitech surround speakers!

[Ian McP]

to "some" extent I believe you can hear how "good" speakers sound on youtube clips.

adjusting the plasma tweeters first!

 

[Ian McP]

 

[Guest Eggcup The Daft]

The last thread was this one:

Youtube videos can help sometimes. For example, they can demonstrate how the product works or how to do something. Sound quality - probably not. There were a couple of high quality videos of cartridge comparisons linked in that thread - but as I said, the same recording on Tidal was a lot better than either with my setup.

 

 

Far too many people trust Youtubers over the real world... hence a lot of the spread of alt-right and particular left strains of politics. We don't do politics here any more (unless vinyl vs digital counts!), fortunately, so I'll shut up and leave you to follow that thread.

Edited January 30, 2019 by Eggcup The Daft

[Irek]

Hi, 

in my opinion YouTube is great. A lot of people either cannot go to the shop or they don't want to or they just don't have the time. When it comes to auditioning some difference in sound can be compare. Also potential buyer can see how particular equipment will look like in real room or living room.  

it doesn't matter if it make sense or not. It's happening anyway and people really buying stuff (often online) base on YT auditioning. If I was running a hifi shop I would definitely make videos of everything (speakers amps combinations) for YT with few examples of the same popular music. I mean the same set of tracks for every combination. At the end it's at least additional advertisement and it's for free. 

Also YT is getting more popular for watching news as the main stream media are kind of a joke.  

[TOPSHELF]

I wonder how good you could get a set up to sound on YT using decent mics or using the line out on the pre-amp?

 

Whilst using phone supplied iem's and therefore cheap i get quite a decent sound from some audio on the internet certainly enough to tell a difference.

I too think alot of people are moving to YT for entertainment, news and lifestyle choices.

 

 

[Guest Muon N']

20 hours ago, Irek said:

Also YT is getting more popular for watching news as the main stream media are kind of a joke. 

 

3 minutes ago, TOPSHELF said:

I too think alot of people are moving to YT for entertainment, news and lifestyle choices.

True, and so so sad :(

[davewantsmoore]

On 30/01/2019 at 11:51 AM, Ian McP said:

to "some" extent I believe you can hear how "good" speakers sound on youtube clips.

It depends, if you know what to listen for (and what not to)..... there's obviously big limitations with the approach, and the room/recording technique is extremely important.

 

... it is only suited to back to back comparisons, and not an overall standalone judgement of quality  (which should be concerning, if people are doing that).

 

It's a little like the TV review site, showing photos and videos of side-by-side television comparisons.  Yes, it won't show you the same picture your eye will see .... but it can be quite instructive if used properly, ie. to show the difference between two settings, or two different TVs, etc.....   I was just yesterday watching a video from a (good) technical site discussing upgrading their camera so they could achieve better footage of HDR for their reviews and technical comparisons.

 

 

One interesting technique we use for evaluating/designing speakers is to record the speaker playing with a microphone, then playback that recording on the same speaker while recording it again, then playback that recording while recording it.... and, well, you see (like copying a cassette tape to another tape to another tape....)   Seeing how many generations can be made without "sounding bad", actually turns out to be a brilliant correlation with listener preference.

[audiofeline]

On 05/03/2019 at 8:54 PM, Irek said:

Hi, in my opinion YouTube is great. A lot of people either cannot go to the shop or they don't want to or they just don't have the time. When it comes to auditioning some difference in sound can be compare. Also potential buyer can see how particular equipment will look like in real room or living room...   

I agree that YouTube can be good to see how some equipment looks and operates.  I must confess I've enjoyed looking at videos of esoteric turntables that cost double what my home is like, or is rare vintage gear that I doubt that I will ever see personally.  Videos demonstrating how some audiophiles have their listening setups are also interesting (and are particularly useful to show Mrs.Feline how some people's huge statement speakers compare to "those big ugly speakers that I won't let be pushed into the room corners" that I subject her to in our living room!). 

 

As interesting as these videos are to compare looks, I also find it laughable how the creators expect us to be able to evaluate the sound from the video.  I can guarantee that my creppy PC soundcard and speakers will never, ever, be able reproduce the subtleties and range of esoteric hifi.  I would love it if they could, but I don't want to be delusional thinking they can reveal these audio differences. 

 

...

PS, in the interests of fairness, Mrs.Feline does tolerate my "big ugly speakers" despite not liking them, and I appreciate that from her.

[wasabijim]

i've got a pretty modest system, nothing special.  i started going on YT to listen to those top end systems. i don't even bother listening to my gear anymore. now if only I could get them to play the music I like on demand.