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Perhaps something to think about and I certainly don't have all the answers, but what's the alternative Red? How many people even here on StereoNET actually have "brilliant listening rooms"? Hotel (an

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Just wondering if the show this weekend in Sth Yarra is on anyone’s radar?

Not looking to start a debate or get a thread locked as i see an earlier thread closed down on it for going off topic and I sense there is/was some issues between the two events but has anyone locked it into their calendar?

 

looks to be a lot of vendors and retailers listed and floor plan looks similar too. 

 

Last weekends show was my first of that kind and I really enjoyed it, if this is more of the same it could be good also? 

 

 

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Yeah, more of the same but different.  If last week was your first and you enjoyed it then you should go again to this one.  I was planning to, but I think I may be hi-show'd out.  I'll decide on Saturday morning.  You'll see some different systems there.

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The previous thread was locked out of respect. Starting a thread about a rival show which is in direct competition and is hostile to the other, is the equivalent of turning up at the Coke factory sipping Pepsi. It’s about respect in the house you’re a guest in.

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4 minutes ago, Kaynin said:

Were there many people there?

It was very busy when I departed about 3pm.    A few nice sounds, at least to my wooden ears.  Audio Note was the highlight.  ARC/Sonus Faber and the Vivid room was ok.  Same with Harbeth. 

 

Hotels are a hostile environment for Audio so difficult to make a conclusion.  

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Wish I could have gone. I prebought tickets, but family issues came up and we couldn't go. If someone wants to pick up two day passes for this last day in Melbourne, message me and I can email them to you, though you have to pretend to be me and my brother.

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4 minutes ago, Rocketfrogs said:

I see the famous (infamous) Mag Lev turntable.  I would of loved to have seen that in action.

I was chatting to the owner of a hifi store that sells this (not the same chap as at the show)… he says it sounds pretty good but it's a really pain to change records (or even change sides). You have to wait for it to stop spinning, the platter supports need to come up and only then can you take the record off. Then it has to start up again

The whole process takes a couple of minutes which would be a show-stopper for me

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39 minutes ago, Sir Sanders Zingmore said:

I was chatting to the owner of a hifi store that sells this (not the same chap as at the show)… he says it sounds pretty good but it's a really pain to change records (or even change sides). You have to wait for it to stop spinning, the platter supports need to come up and only then can you take the record off. Then it has to start up again

The whole process takes a couple of minutes which would be a show-stopper for me

I just want to see the expression on everyone's faces while waiting for this process....?

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1 hour ago, Willco said:

I'd be interested in anyones report on the Aries Cerat room ?

 

Willco

 

I spent some time there and took a lot of pics.  I'm tied up ATM, but will post some photos and impressions later - the sound WAS impressive!

 

Here's one in the meantime:

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31 minutes ago, Tony M said:

 

 

I spent some time there and took a lot of pics.  I'm tied up ATM, but will post some photos and impressions later - the sound WAS impressive!

 

Here's one in the meantime:

 

Thank you Tony -- Much appreciated--just curious on what all the kerfuffle is about on overseas forums:)

 

Pity those speaker are so damn ugly--the big horn looks like an afterthought!

 

Ah well

 

Willco

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Curious why there's nothing here about it?  Does it have a separate thread?  Anyone go?  I attended yesterday and had a great time.  


I attended two days and enjoyed the show and the talks. Also attended the show the previous week!

I too wondered about two shows being organised so close together.

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2 hours ago, Willco said:

I'd be interested in anyones report on the Aries Cerat room ?

 

Willco

It was the first thing I listened to when I arrived and I thank the gentleman demonstrating it for not playing it at 110db with some gut wrenching bass. 

 

Amazing dynamics, front to back depth and scaling of instruments within the soundstage.  I found it very forward in the midrange and coloured with female voice so it was not to my taste (I'm using stacked Quads) but I can really get the appeal.  Hifi is largely subjective, you might love it.  

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If this thread is to continue without being shut down, it should be strictly regarding topics relating to this (UK Chester Group) show only.
Comments relating to the organisation, two shows back to back in one town, and politics should be left out of the thread.

 

They do nothing but serve to fuel the fire and create further hostility in what has been a very fragile and complex issue that most will not understand.


Stakeholders and those with a vested interest understand why what has happened has, and the public discussion on one of the organiser's own websites serves no purpose and does not help to solve a problem that is being addressed with priority for future years.

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A few more pics of the Aries Serat room.  The photos fail miserably to give any real indication of the massive scale of this stuff, both physically and sonically.  Dynamics were effortless and the scale of the soundstage was huge.  I didn't hear enough familiar music to really suss it out but a homemade recording of some flamenco guitarists/vocalists/dancers was quite spooky due to the immediacy of the feet on a timber floor - absolutely amazing.

 

A serous listen wasn't really on the cards given the cost, size and aesthetics?! of the system, but it was an experience not to be missed.  There's always something new out there and this system was 100% "out there". 

  

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I guess anyone that knows me will understand I loved the sound in this room.  Yes, it would've been nicer with better speaker stands and some valves, but it was dynamic, alive and thoroughly enjoyable anyway, especially since all the equipment was about 40 years old:

 

 

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If this thread is to continue without being shut down, it should be strictly regarding topics relating to this (UK Chester Group) show only.
Comments relating to the organisation, two shows back to back in one town, and politics should be left out of the thread.
 
They do nothing but serve to fuel the fire and create further hostility in what has been a very fragile and complex issue that most will not understand.

Stakeholders and those with a vested interest understand why what has happened has, and the public discussion on one of the organiser's own websites serves no purpose and does not help to solve a problem that is being addressed with priority for future years.


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 @Tony M  Thanks for the pics Tony.

I wish I could of afforded(My health I'm talking about) to have stayed down for the extra week as my daughter lives just around the corner from the Como and when in Bleak City I usually stay at the Como or her unit.

Knowing the 'Shed' and what's in there I can well imagine you'd of loved the Aries Serat room and the other room with those strangely familiar speakers... haha.

 

Good Grief!  Those anti vibration platforms...

Thankfully @Eggmiester is no longer a member coz I'm sure he'd dive right in at these.

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3 hours ago, Tony M said:

I guess anyone that knows me will understand I loved the sound in this room.  Yes, it would've been nicer with better speaker stands and some valves, but it was dynamic, alive and thoroughly enjoyable anyway, especially since all the equipment was about 40 years old:

 

 

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Seems like they have the left hand speaker on the right hand side.

I’ve had several sets of these and always had the left and right speaker where they should be.

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10 minutes ago, Sir Sanders Zingmore said:

Are those stacore things active somehow?

There are multiple compressed gas cylinders underneath, and control switches on the front - which I presume would make them 'active'.

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5 hours ago, carl888 said:

It was the first thing I listened to when I arrived and I thank the gentleman demonstrating it for not playing it at 110db with some gut wrenching bass. 

 

Amazing dynamics, front to back depth and scaling of instruments within the soundstage.  I found it very forward in the midrange and coloured with female voice so it was not to my taste (I'm using stacked Quads) but I can really get the appeal.  Hifi is largely subjective, you might love it.  

 

 

 

Thanks for the comments Carl--interesting to hear/read the varying observations-- I have friends overseas with the full house AC's and they rave /etc/etc

 

Incidentally you mentioned stacked Quads-- They aren't my old ones by any chance ?-- one curved panel designed with two speakers ea'

 

--Oh the plate on the back stating "The Radio People Hkg".

 

Great speakers

 

Willco

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56 minutes ago, Willco said:

Thanks for the comments Carl--interesting to hear/read the varying observations-- I have friends overseas with the full house AC's and they rave /etc/etc

 

Incidentally you mentioned stacked Quads-- They aren't my old ones by any chance ?-- one curved panel designed with two speakers ea'

 

--Oh the plate on the back stating "The Radio People Hkg".

 

Great speakers

 

Willco

Interesting.  I've never heard any owner claim their 6 figure audio system was rubbish :)

 

Re: Quads, no, I made the frames myself many years back.  

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Notable systems at the 2018 Como show (in no particular order):

 

Audio Note & Takatsuki

The music, as usual, is eclectic, relaxed and played at a reasonable volume. Why do many exhibitors play it too loud? Interesting sight seeing aged males lose self-control around glass tubes.

 

Synergy Audio Visual

Audio Research CD9 source/Ref 6 pre/Reference 160M monos, Sonus Faber Amati speakers.

Tube sound, with heft.

Interesting discussion about the sound of earlier CD releases and digital recordings, and the merits of 16-bit redbook recordings/mastering done right.

 

Reference Audio Visual

Esoteric Grandiso K1 source, Esoteric Grandiso F1 (30wpc class A integrated amp), EgglestonWorks Viginti speakers.

Good example of class A solid-state sound. The modest power output belying its big, deep, well-damped sound - and without the usual transistor "grit". The speakers were not wife-friendly, but they had a synergy with the amplifier.

 

Magenta Audio & Halcro

PS Audio disc/dac, Halcro (Eclipse?) amp, Davone speakers

Good selection of mainly jazz tracks, varied in styles and well recorded. I felt the amplifier may have been held back by the speakers.

 

Groove Works

AMG turntable, Ayon disc, Tidal Audio dac/pre, Einstein pwr, Tidal Audio Contriva G2 speakers

The speakers were positioned nearly half-way into the middle of the room, which probably accounted for unusually deep staging. Very effective A-B-A demonstration of enhancements by using Telos Audio active grounding box and Telos Audio resonator conditioners (solid metal pieces lifting speaker cables off the ground). I heard the most convincing sound of Muddy Waters - Folk Singer played on vinyl.

 

Carlton Audio Visual

Yamaha C-5000 pre/M-5000 pwr/NS-5000 speakers

Powerful sound. The speakers' dark piano-gloss sitting atop architectural stands are irresistible eye-candy. The treble, like those of the B&W 800 D3, could be too revealing.

 

Which is the best system? Who is the most beautiful woman? I like them all.

 

Thanks to the above exhibitors for giving me the opportunity to hear my music through their system.

 

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2 hours ago, yamaha_man said:

Seems like they have the left hand speaker on the right hand side.

I’ve had several sets of these and always had the left and right speaker where they should be.

Yeah, you're right - a sharp observation that I totally missed.  The tweets/mids are traditionally placed on the outside. 

 

However, FWIW, in studios the speakers were more often placed horizontally on stands close to a wall.  And I have 3 pairs - the pair in the living room are both right sided so there's no way I can get those right (or wrong) and the ones in the shed are twinned/stacked together on stands - so it doesn't count there either.

 

Crappy pic, but good enough to show what I'm on about:

 

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The most enjoyable room for me was the Sound Gallery setup with Magico A -series speakers and Solution amplification. Source was (I think) a Brinkmann TT with a DS-Audio optical cartridge. Anyone interested in a slightly used kidney?

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