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Alrighty,

So iinet are talking about this new thing they are releasing soon called Fetchtv, for customers who currently have a Naked ADSL internet connection with them.

http://www.iinet.net.au/fetchtv/

http://www.fetchtv.com.au/

They are claiming to have cheap channels and a basic package that starts at $30. They also recon that unlike foxtel you will be able to select what channels you want in your package.

So this service is for those who have BoB and what it does is, instead of getting your channels via dish you get it via internet. Which sends it to a settop box connected to your tv.

What do you guys think? They haven't released a lot of information yet as its all new and they haven't released a clear channel line up but it looks like they have so pretty good broadcast rights.

The basic fetchtv subscription package includes 20 channels and Video On Demand content libraries. Full details of the content will be announced in coming weeks and will include an extensive selection from content partners including Discovery Networks, National Geographic, MTV Networks, Fox International Channels, E! Entertainment Television, BBC World News, CNBC, ABC, Roadshow Entertainment, Warner, Disney Media Distribution, MGM, and Lionsgate.

If they have some decent stuff or beat selectv, i might consider switching? what do you guys think?

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Alrighty,

So iinet are talking about this new thing they are releasing soon called Fetchtv, for customers who currently have a Naked ADSL internet connection with them.

http://www.iinet.net.au/fetchtv/

http://www.fetchtv.com.au/

They are claiming to have cheap channels and a basic package that starts at $30. They also recon that unlike foxtel you will be able to select what channels you want in your package.

So this service is for those who have BoB and what it does is, instead of getting your channels via dish you get it via internet. Which sends it to a settop box connected to your tv.

What do you guys think? They haven't released a lot of information yet as its all new and they haven't released a clear channel line up but it looks like they have so pretty good broadcast rights.

If they have some decent stuff or beat selectv, i might consider switching? what do you guys think?

IPTV has been around for years, its quite wide spread here in the UK where TalkTalk provides an alternative to Sky and Virgin, I think 30 channels is pretty light on though if they think they can provide an alternative to Foxtel, added to that you need to be within one of their DSLAM areas and have a minimum speed. I am not sure it will work in such a spread out country with a small population.

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IPTV has been around for years, its quite wide spread here in the UK where TalkTalk provides an alternative to Sky and Virgin, I think 30 channels is pretty light on though if they think they can provide an alternative to Foxtel, added to that you need to be within one of their DSLAM areas and have a minimum speed. I am not sure it will work in such a spread out country with a small population.

Yehh i agree, IPTV has been around, however its quite new here to Australia, as far as i know. In fact i think iinet are the first real big company to introduce it. I only really have selectv because its cheap and lets be honest foxtel can get quite expensive with its packages. Im only interested in the fact that this fetchtv thing might offer better content than selectv and might be worth switching. Although foxtel will always be best, because it owns the rights to most channels. I mean i know that there is no hope in hell that it will have channels like ~Fox Sports~ or ~comedy central~ but anyway that's just my little discovery and thought it would share it :)

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I too am watching as I doubt SelecTV would be able to add any HD channels until the new satellite is up. Also they will be using Envivio Extreme for the video compression so the SD streams are likely be better quality as well.

At the moment the following channels have been confirmed from the iinet page

CNBC-Au

BBC World News

Nat Geo

Nat Geo adventure

Disc Science

Disc Home&Health

Disc Travel&Living

Disc Turbo

Animal Planet

MTV

MTV Classic

BabyTv

Gekko.tv (VoD)

WarnerTV (VoD)

MovieBox (VoD)

This only adds up to 15, so they haven't announced all the channels yet.

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With those channels, i wont be changing, they look worse than selectv's lineup.... and they kids channels look horrible.

Hopefully they offer something that selectv doesnt have thats worth it.

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With those channels, i wont be changing, they look worse than selectv's lineup.... and they kids channels look horrible.

Hopefully they offer something that selectv doesnt have thats worth it.

I'm watching this with interest.

They don't have the movie channels (they have 30 as VoD)

They do have the Discoveries/Animal planet in their basic package not $10 more/mth

They don't have Cartoon/CNN/TCM (they do have a WarnerTV package... related?)

They have a few VoD packages (including some HD?), a 1TB HD PVR (FTA & Pay channels), and apparently some HD tiers.

What kind of cost is it on Select to get a PVR which also does the FTAs?

They cost $150 to install on contract (where select is free) and then costs the same/mth if you need to rent a BoB router (otherwise $10/mth less).

You also need to get ethernet to your TV (or EOP).

Naturally if you're 3km from the exchange you are getting out of range of Fetch, while if you're in an apartment building SelecTV isn't an option.

Overall it seems to me that content-wise they are quite similar. Fetch costs a bit more to get started but the PVR makes up for it.

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I'm watching this with interest.

They don't have the movie channels (they have 30 as VoD)

They do have the Discoveries/Animal planet in their basic package not $10 more/mth

They don't have Cartoon/CNN/TCM (they do have a WarnerTV package... related?)

They have a few VoD packages (including some HD?), a 1TB HD PVR (FTA & Pay channels), and apparently some HD tiers.

It's still early days yet so there is room to improve. I am surprised that didn't get Style or Nat Geo Wild which should be non-exclusive now (I don't think SelecTV will get them until the new satellite is operational next year).

As for the Discovery channels, they are pretty poor (well at least Science, T&L and H&H, not sure about Animal Planet). They don't seem to shuffle the programming much, with some programs that seem to be repeated every 6 to 12 months. None of them are in widescreen either.

It will interesting to see if WarnerTV carries any Turner content (although I think if they did it would most likely be stuff from Cartoon Network or Boomerang). WarnerTV is the biggest advantage of Fetch over SelecTV,which lacks broad appeal scripted general entertainment content (the closest to it are the shows on Movie Extra such as Mad Men). Speaking of which, it will be interesting to see if these shows pop on Movie Box.

What kind of cost is it on Select to get a PVR which also does the FTAs?

They cost $150 to install on contract (where select is free) and then costs the same/mth if you need to rent a BoB router (otherwise $10/mth less).

You also need to get ethernet to your TV (or EOP).

About $500 it would seem (HD). I don't think there are any SD combo PVR boxes out there that are sold in Australia.

http://www.tvbox.com.au/Categories/PVR - Satellite_14_1_products.asp://http://www.tvbox.com.au/Categories/..._1_products.asp

Naturally if you're 3km from the exchange you are getting out of range of Fetch, while if you're in an apartment building SelecTV isn't an option.

Overall it seems to me that content-wise they are quite similar. Fetch costs a bit more to get started but the PVR makes up for it.

The VoD channels look promising (especially given that it looks they are going to have access to some content available on Foxtel-owned channels). One of the things though is that I don't have my service active all year, with MovieBox I'd most likely miss out on movies since they are only available for a month (I think).

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It's still early days yet so there is room to improve.

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The VoD channels look promising (especially given that it looks they are going to have access to some content available on Foxtel-owned channels). One of the things though is that I don't have my service active all year, with MovieBox I'd most likely miss out on movies since they are only available for a month (I think).

I agree it's early days - and the big promise of IPTV is NOT the ability to watch linear channels :). We want to get to a point where an entire TV series is available by clicking on something like "WarnerTV" and then "Babylon5". Putting a show up for a month and removing is just a first step from linear channels to portal channels.

I really fundamentally believe in the value of competition, so SelecTV and Fetch are appealing for that reason and I'd like to support competition. I rent, so adding SelecTV has never been an option. I'm really glad to be in a position to support it.

BTW: I was actually surprised that it wasn't SelecTV ready to leap into an IPTV service like Fetch has. Just no interest?

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BTW: I was actually surprised that it wasn't SelecTV ready to leap into an IPTV service like Fetch has. Just no interest?

I guessing it's because they don't have any experience. Fetch is backed by someone who already owns IPTV services. Also the hardware too - Fetch designed their own custom box didn't they (whereas SelecTV use standard model DVB-S units with custom firmware).

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I guessing it's because they don't have any experience. Fetch is backed by someone who already owns IPTV services. Also the hardware too - Fetch designed their own custom box didn't they (whereas SelecTV use standard model DVB-S units with custom firmware).

Something more obvious in fact, it's not cheap to jump into a new platform. Fetch are back by Malaysian paytv operators with very deep pockets and a lot of clout with content providers. They are intent on jumping into iptv here and attempting to establish a foothold. Select need to move to mpeg 4 to rationalise a move to HD content, not mention come up with an HD STB. The HD model kind of goes against the 'budget' market as well. It's a top end add-on package for foxtel and austar when you look at theirs.

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I agree it's early days - and the big promise of IPTV is NOT the ability to watch linear channels :). We want to get to a point where an entire TV series is available by clicking on something like "WarnerTV" and then "Babylon5". Putting a show up for a month and removing is just a first step from linear channels to portal channels.

I really fundamentally believe in the value of competition, so SelecTV and Fetch are appealing for that reason and I'd like to support competition. I rent, so adding SelecTV has never been an option. I'm really glad to be in a position to support it.

BTW: I was actually surprised that it wasn't SelecTV ready to leap into an IPTV service like Fetch has. Just no interest?

Then get the telstra T-Box you get shows on demand on that.

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As Packer once said "content is King" - if you don't have appealing content, people will not come.

You find out what people really want, buy it, and then make a fortune - just what Murdoch did with the FA in Britain.

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