Calciatore Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 I don't know if this has been discussed before. But Blu-Ray movie prices are ridiculous. Take for instance this: Forget the movie title but just doing a price comparison of Blu-Ray to DVD. Blu-Ray Title: Daddy Day Camp - Blu-Ray - $49.95 DVD: Daddy Day Care & Daddy Day Camp - Twin Pack DVD - $19.95 My question is Are you serious???? Your thoughts?
davep Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 EzyDVD are kidding. Big W, JB and other marginally cheaper.
tonyjg Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 I don't know if this has been discussed before.But Blu-Ray movie prices are ridiculous. My question is Are you serious???? Your thoughts? You are going to get little sympathy in this place for Blu-ray prices. Period. I personally 'watch' in amazement however some of the guys on here can buy a Blu-ray disc at $35+ only to know that the DVD can be purchased for less than $10. But (and a phrase that I despise) - AT THE END OF THE DAY its not my wallet that is spending that amount of money. I have a price limit that I'm prepared to PAY for a movie on a piece of plastic - and I tend to stick to that - regardless of the format. However - the studios and distributor have anther PRICE in mind. And on Blu-ray - these two prices are way off !! The simple solution for me is - WAIT. Example = why purchase a great Oscar winning movie, NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN, on DVD or Blu-ray on the 1st day of release - at $30-40 when you can wait a few months and see the DVD going for less than $10 ?? I don't need something RIGHT NOW - MORE SO when I have a collection of 1800 DVDs / 100 HDDVDs and many of them unopened and many many unseen. WAIT until the distributors get the hint from lack of local sales - and prices SHOULD FALL. Should.
ronafios Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 I have a price limit that I'm prepared to PAY for a movie on a piece of plastic - and I tend to stick to that - regardless of the format. My wife and I used to watch a lot of movies at the cinema. We lived directly across the road from one for the first few years of marriage, which didn't help. Now we have 3 kids, and it's harder to get out. When we do, it tends to cost us $20-$30 in tickets, plus babysitting. Instead, I have a 16:9 HD projector and BD player, and I apply the logic that buying a $30-$40 BD is the equivalent of cinema attendance, only slightly cheaper (when you factor babysitting) and slightly later than the cinema release. We also tend to have a few other people around at the time as well, so the experience often exceeds the cinema experience. So I tend to buy DVD's still when I'm buying classics (like EzyDVD's under $5 sale which now seems to be sold out) where I bought Ghost world for $3.99 and Planet of the Apes (1968) for $1.99. Obviously, it's going to be a long time before there are any BD titles at that price. But for new releases, treating them like a cinema alternative makes it easier to justify the higher prices. All of that said, a range of classic BD releases at $9.95 or even $14.95 would make sense around about now. I did buy the BD Rambo trilogy when it was offered for $39.95 from Sanity - that price-point is acceptable for a classic, when the DVD equivalent is $29.95. $13.50 for a movie in BD is fine. Hopefully we'll see more like that. Ross.
way_fast_whitie Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) They are definatly overpriced, some will say due to the AMAZING quality and sound they are worth it. Me personaly think they arnt. The movies that are $30 more than the dvd version ARNT worth it. DVD still provides a great picture quality and sound. The prices are falling slightly....often major blu releases can be found at kmart and bigw for $32-34 only $5 or so more than there dvd version. Once the titles fall regulary under $30 things will pick up. But I dont see it happening for some time. Edited November 25, 2008 by way_fast_whitie
Volunteer Kazz Posted November 25, 2008 Volunteer Posted November 25, 2008 I personally 'watch' in amazement however some of the guys on here can buy a Blu-ray disc at $35+ only to know that the DVD can be purchased for less than $10. But (and a phrase that I despise) - AT THE END OF THE DAY its not my wallet that is spending that amount of money. If I want to pay top dollar for a new release title then I will. Point in case I just had The Dark Knight couriered from DVD Pac, admittedly I had 8 copies in the order as a few of us put in for that one to make shipping cheaper but it still cost us $53 AUD a pop. I was willing to pay it to get it here quicker, I wouldn't do it for every movie. DVD's were fairly costly when they first came on the market too I bought then as well, I have a pretty good HT system at home and I want to enjoy the best quality I can on it, if that means I pay more for my movies then so be it. Don't get me wrong I don't like the higher prices anymore than the next person but I'll pay them to get what I want, when I want.
tonyjg Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) If I want to pay top dollar for a new release title then I will.Don't get me wrong I don't like the higher prices anymore than the next person but I'll pay them to get what I want, when I want. And I have no argument against that (just from seeing that you quoted from me) Me - i just prefer to save all the $$ that I am earning for a rainy day (in Sydney), holidays, and ultimately a nice big home with a dedicated home cinema. Added - IT contractor working for the govt. Me - i'm 'classified' as being born in the last year of the 'baby boomers' though There was however a small article in today's Sydney Daily Terrorgraph - page 87 Business Section that says quite a lot : "The Nation Can't Save - Almost 45& of Australians are living from payday to payday and more than 40% are finding it difficult to save for major expenses such as their children's education........ The discipline of "saving for a rainy day" seem less prevalent in today's society'. Edited November 25, 2008 by tonyjg
Volunteer Kazz Posted November 25, 2008 Volunteer Posted November 25, 2008 There was however a small article in today's Sydney Daily Terrorgraph - page 87 Busines Section I think I do ok managing my finances...............thank you.
AndrewW Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 I'd ask again why certain people spend so much time in a forum that is obviously of no interest to them??
Volunteer Kazz Posted November 26, 2008 Volunteer Posted November 26, 2008 I'd ask again why certain people spend so much time in a forum that is obviously of no interest to them?? Beginning to wonder that too.
ajm1503559545 Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 tonyjg, Andrew and Kazz have a point there mate. Blu-ray is expensive, whether it is too expensive is a personal thing and if you have decided it's not worth the extra cost then that's fine, no argument from me, but I don't see the need to bemoan the cost at every opportunity. Ok, you're not a fan of Blu-ray, I think we all understand that by now, so it's not readily apparent why you spend so much time discussing Blu-ray and it's many flaws. You make many valid points and criticisms about Blu-ray, but no one is forcing you to buy into it - you've made the choice not to. Why keeping labouring the point?
Chesty Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 Price is relative. What is expensive to one person may not be to another.
momaw Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 I'd ask again why certain people spend so much time in a forum that is obviously of no interest to them?? Beginning to wonder that too. tonyjg, Andrew and Kazz have a point there mate. Blu-ray is expensive, whether it is too expensive is a personal thing and if you have decided it's not worth the extra cost then that's fine, no argument from me, but I don't see the need to bemoan the cost at every opportunity. Ok, you're not a fan of Blu-ray, I think we all understand that by now, so it's not readily apparent why you spend so much time discussing Blu-ray and it's many flaws. You make many valid points and criticisms about Blu-ray, but no one is forcing you to buy into it - you've made the choice not to. Why keeping labouring the point? Price is relative.What is expensive to one person may not be to another. I gotta agree with these guys. It's gotten to the point I'm considering the "T" word to be appropriate. I mean if one went into a Lexus forum and all they did was complain about the price (amongst other things) with comments that their Festiva was so much better value for money, would that not be considered a visit from an Under-Bridge Dweller? Perhaps this would be a better place to spend ones time?
BigDave Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 I think Steve Neil at Eastwood hifi said it right when he thought the prices of Blu ray discs would be the death of it. There are only so many people like us with a love for audio visual that will pay top dollar for a good product like blu ray - the other 90% of people are still happy with paying the prices for regular dvd's. With the economy going the way it is, and people tightening their belts, blu ray disc manufacturers will not be able to weather it for long. Sure, it may cost a lot more to make a blu ray disc at the moment but that is immaterial if people refuse to pay the high price. And much like McDonalds, discs rely on high turnover to make money for the manufacturers/distributors/retailers. Without high volume sales, the format may very well die out.
momaw Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 I think Steve Neil at Eastwood hifi said it right when he thought the prices of Blu ray discs would be the death of it. There are only so many people like us with a love for audio visual that will pay top dollar for a good product like blu ray - the other 90% of people are still happy with paying the prices for regular dvd's. With the economy going the way it is, and people tightening their belts, blu ray disc manufacturers will not be able to weather it for long. Sure, it may cost a lot more to make a blu ray disc at the moment but that is immaterial if people refuse to pay the high price. And much like McDonalds, discs rely on high turnover to make money for the manufacturers/distributors/retailers. Without high volume sales, the format may very well die out. Steve at eastwood has a vested interest to keep people in DVD in the fact that he doesn't carry the brands that currently have BD players in the Australian marketplace. There is nothing wrong with higher prices. Do I want them lower? Sure, who doesn't want to pay less. But laserdisc happily plodded along for 20 years at a higher price, superior picture and audio quality with every major release on the format and back catalog titles still not even on DVD. Blu-ray would be lucky to do so well.
gib_oz Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 I don’t actually think BD prices are too bad these days (provided you hunt around for bargains). The last BD’s I have bought have been Indiana Jones, I Robot and Die Another Day – bought these all pretty much on the release day and none of them were over $33. And these are all great titles as well. And did I read somewhere that Narnia Prince Caspian was $26 at Big W? Also consider B2G1F offers that pop up from time to time where the average price for 3 titles is just over $25. Wasn’t that long ago I was paying those prices for DVD. Even today, some new release DVD’s still sell for over $30. I used to think like Tony and wondered whether HD was worth the extra expense. The answer to this question is debatable and is up to the individual – however, I do recognise that slowly but surely, prices are coming down to levels where the masses may take notice. I for one will continue to buy BD’s – not just because I can afford it, but mainly because at current prices, I believe HD is worth the extra expense (particularly for my favourite movies). Each to their own though.
Redfan77 Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 Don't get me wrong I don't like the higher prices anymore than the next person but I'll pay them to get what I want, when I want. Hello everyone, I agree with Kazz on this, especially for fliks like TDK etc. But otherwise i've been hiring them now from my local video stores & they only cost me $8 for a new release & 1 3 day release.
kopthat Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) I think it was hard when we were spoilt by HD DVD fire sales with dics $10 and below. Since then I have found myself being a lot more picky about wether a movie BD worthy or not. There are a lot of entry level BD players in the $300-400 price bracket, so a lot more people may look for a higher quality picture on their 40"+ flat panel displays. We are not too far away from $30 for a new release BD movie which I think it the price point that will get more punters to buy Blu ray Edited November 26, 2008 by kopthat
jbl540 Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 Can i pose the question of who still buys new release dvd's over new release BD?? I personally, given the option, chose BD every time.
ajm1503559545 Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 Can i pose the question of who still buys new release dvd's over new release BD??I personally, given the option, chose BD every time. Same here, but I don't buy many new releases these days. The past few weeks there have been a glut of good new releases worth the asking price but this is a rarity for me these days. I tend to wait for the sales and buy what I know I will want to keep for a while or can sell off quickly.
jutta Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 Can i pose the question of who still buys new release dvd's over new release BD??I personally, given the option, chose BD every time. Have not even looked at the DVD section for 12 months
Chill Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) I picked up 10 Blu Rays on Saturday, 9 in the JB 3 for 2 deal and Hancock. Total price averaged out at $26 each. I am more than happy with these prices. On new releases I see the current price of Blu Ray as very competitive, at JB most BD's are $8 to $9 bucks more than the DVD, which I think is fair enough. On interesting thing with DVD (based on US sales figures in any case) is that most people pay top wack and 70% of sales are in the first few weeks. As Tony says, you can wait and get it cheaper, fact is most people don't ! Check out numbers site and you can see this clearly. http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/weekly/thisweek.php Iron Man has sold: Total Sold, 7,866,610 Week one was ~5,000,000 In week 7 - 183,649 What this indicates is that for the majority, price is not an issue We all see the $9 clean out bins, but fact is that is exactly what they are clean out bins to get rid of excess stock, most sales and the majority profit comes in the first few weeks BD sales also drop off dramatically - however many catalogue releases on BD just keep ticking over an a moderate rate, at near full price, presumably because as more people but players more people want these old titles in HD. That must be very attractive to the studios. Edited November 26, 2008 by Chill
Calciatore Posted November 26, 2008 Author Posted November 26, 2008 Don't get me wrong guys. I have about 80 or so Blu-Rays and still going. But I think that how long Blu-Ray has been available, at least the movies that have been out on Blu-Ray ever since the format has been in place should have at least come down in price. Only thing that has really made an improvement price wise is the price of the players. Just me thoughts.........................
Eth Nick Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 I'm about to start my BD collection this week, & i'm going to see how long I can last avoiding $30+ BDs. Currently eyeing up Goodfellas & The Last Samurai (both ~$26). Don't know if this little test is going to last though - with Batman Begins, The Dark Knight & The Descent being released just before my Christmas break starts..
SDL Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 Yes I think Blu-Ray costs too much but hey I will buy anyway. Maybe I could be seen as a sucker, but I enjoy my movies and I don't spend money on cigarettes, rarely eat take away, drink a little but not to huge excess, don't buy new clothes the minute a new trend arrives, so hey its all relative. I rather spend $30 on a BD once a week or so than those that spend $15 a day on cigarettes.
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