mello yello Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) Do we need or want it here ? I cant believe they are promoting it full on at my kids school to the point its like a huge muck up day complete with preparing outfits over the last couple of days and going full tilt Americana style Im all for the teaching and encouraging of diverse cultures and customs but do we really need to mimick monkey style what we probably have no real idea what is all about ? Do we really have a pumpkin harvest here or know its origins ...or even care ? This isnt meant to be a Yank bash or anything like that..seriously, but really, what do we care about pumpkins witches goblins trick or treating. I know..its for the kids and its a kids thing...but do our kids need to be hauled into and conditioned into believing its what we do here, whether its harmlessly or not. I dunno....I pulled my kid out for the day. Maybe Im just annoyed at recent attempts to de-Christmasify schools recently so as not to offend non Christian kids at these schools or maybe Im suspicious of any form of "marketing" aimed at kids, but somehow it just doesnt seem to gel here. It seems the bias and energy going into today isnt reflected or balanced out by any attempt to equally get enthusiastic about any other kids day culture from any number of other customs and celebrations ? Equal rights and oppotunities and all that. Whats next ? Kevin 07 Thanksgiving Day ? Turkey on a spit ? If America wants to spread its customs and cultures worldwide like some peanut butter and jelly sandwich I think they should first learn how to respect and acknowledge everyone elses. Youd think. Id like to see Mosman Baseball Club enter the World Series as a trade-off. Edited October 30, 2008 by mello yello II
mcduck Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 it's annoying, i think it should stay in America but the kids enjoy it it's kind of cute when the little ones come around the older ones just piss me off so i say, let the little ones have fun while they can but i wish more parents would go around with them, that bugs me, the unsupervised ones no way i let mine out without me and yes, we have goodies
mello yello Posted October 30, 2008 Author Posted October 30, 2008 Mosman Baseball Club Honour list Allan Border Ian Chappell Ian Craig Reg Gasnier Richie Benaud Ken Gulliver Graham Hole Gordon F Rorke Neil Harvey Ken Gulliver Alan Crompton David Sincock Dom Lopez
Aloysius Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Good post Mell! Couldn't agee more with you. I think it's a combination of commercialism, cultural inadequacy, and plain old educators antipathy for ordinary peoples cultures
mello yello Posted October 30, 2008 Author Posted October 30, 2008 but i wish more parents would go around with them, that bugs me, the unsupervised ones Agree on all your points Scotty especially that one
mello yello Posted October 30, 2008 Author Posted October 30, 2008 Good post Mell!Couldn't agee more with you. I think it's a combination of commercialism, cultural inadequacy, and plain old educators antipathy for ordinary peoples cultures and laziness Aloy...laziness to the point of lets not invent or nurture our own kids day..lets mimick someone elses Crikey we even import our leisure now ?
Meinoz Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Not a fan and certainly won't let my kids go walking around streets at night. Plus you never know what whacko might think it's funny to add something to the treats. Com'n Aust let's think of something original for once.
Mr.Bitey Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 Nope. Wont encourage it in my home. As far as I know the school doesnt either. Ive been living in this area for around 6 years and never seen anyone participating. i did it once in primary school - was a bit of fun, school hyped it up of course.. PS: fruit is NOT a treat :-) I wouldnt want my kids knocking on strangers doors asking for 'candy' - f00k that! too many wierdo's pervs these days I think each year, should I have some 'candy' near the door just incase (i dont, but I think about it ;-), if some kids came to the door, i'd probably go find them some lollies or something. I dont know the customs of it except that movie sleepy hollow - and I dont remember much of that.. of course ive watched the odd 'halloween 3, 7 etc' horror movie :-) I dont really care for it much... weve got plenty of other fun things to do without putting my kids in harms way - not that id let them do it without going along but who knows if thats a lollie induced tummy ache, or some assholes put something in the lollies. Cheers, Mooney
mcduck Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) and my kids always knew not to eat the loose lollies if they couldn't unwrap it, they weren't allowed to have it we only give individually wrapped stuff, like share bags, fantales etc and i'm expecting mine to knock damn it'd been impossible to keep them out of the goodies all week i have a lot less here now edit my spelling sucks Edited October 31, 2008 by mcduck
Meinoz Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 PS Bitey, cough lollies don't count either Ducky, Have you never heard of a needle & syringe? I'd be surprised if any kid checked for holes in the wrapping before opening and eating. PS, not meant to scare, give ideas, just wanting to alert you to possibilities.
mcduck Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 PS Bitey, cough lollies don't count either Ducky, Have you never heard of a needle & syringe? I'd be surprised if any kid checked for holes in the wrapping before opening and eating. PS, not meant to scare, give ideas, just wanting to alert you to possibilities. great i'm a fully fledged Paranoid at the best of times Happy Halloween on the bright side no door knockers, all the more for me
The D-Train Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 Its a bit of fun so why not. The only ones that piss me are the lazy ones who dont get dressed up at all and knock at your door. at least I get to off load the dog poo.
Guest obee Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 Our 15 year old daughter had a halloween (themed) party last Saturday night. The kids had a ball. We decorated the garage with pirate skeletons and cobwebbs and creapy crawlies all over the place. She wanted it this weekend, but as I'm working all weekend and kids that age don't sleep after their sugar hi - it wasn't on. We live in a very good/safe rural neighbourhood, so if the littlies wanted to go trick or treating I'd hope they'd be pretty safe. Even so, knowing how many whacko's now populate the world, it's probably not a safe thing to be doing anywhere. And that is very sad indeed.
mcduck Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 almost time to put the goodies in a bowl near the front door keeping the family out of them is going to be a challenge and can i be trusted? course i can
stahc Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 i'm with mel my baby even says if they want candy go to a lolly shop...................we're not american
The D-Train Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 Well I think we knocked on the doors of some of the killjoys on this forum because a lot of people didnt answer (even though home) and some just said No. A bit poor as the kids dressed up from head to toe. They are only 3 and 6 so we got them to knock on our own door to get some lollies.
mcduck Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 that's what i can't do say no to the kids been door knocking so many times for different reasons when the kids were little it physically hurts to see their faces drop when told no come and knock on our door D-train we have choccy
digitalj Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 someone's already been to my door, was hoping it would be the same as last year, i.e. no one coming.
stahc Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 we only had the two kids knock.............gladly handed over some lollies just because we're not all that fussed by procedings doesn't mean we ignore the kids having some fun!
The D-Train Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 just because we're not all that fussed by procedings doesn't mean we ignore the kids having some fun! Well thats good to see chats. The best one was some woman who said I dont believe in halloween and shut the door on the kids. Let me reiteratle again, I hate it when kids dont dress up and knock, thats just rude but I reckon if they dress up they deserve something. Perhaps Im just an overprotective dad but the community spirit definitely disappointed me. well ive just got my hockey mask on and sharpened my machete, Im off the womans house and I bet I can make her really believe in halloween.
The D-Train Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 that's what i can't do say no to the kids been door knocking so many times for different reasons when the kids were little it physically hurts to see their faces drop when told no come and knock on our door D-train we have choccy thanks duckster, everyones not as nice as you. someone's already been to my door, was hoping it would be the same as last year, i.e. no one coming. we'd hate for you to have to part with any food dig.
DrP Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) Well I think we knocked on the doors of some of the killjoys on this forum... No offense D, but this is Australia. Wandering around neighbourhoods pestering people for sweets isn't an Australian tradition. I for one am not going out to buy a bucket of lollies just in case someone knocks on my door..... I can't think of anyone I know whose children go door knocking or even want to good door knocking. There are halloween parties for some, but no door knocking. Edited October 31, 2008 by DrP
mcduck Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 on the way to eldests last night they were out and about it started like this 3 boys around babys age just walk across the road, looking directly at the cars, they kids going to stop then some Harry Potter wanna be comes running , scares the **** out of me get close to eldests, high beam in residential area at this stage, see one kid cross, so slow right down then an adult, 2 more kids, crawling along now 1, 2, 3, 4, more, not one of them looked before they crossed the road some fcuking adult supervision that was
The D-Train Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 No offense D, but this is Australia. Wandering around neighbourhoods pestering people for sweets isn't an Australian tradition. I for one am not going out to buy a bucket of lollies just in case someone knocks on my door..... I can't think of anyone I know whose children go door knocking or even want to good door knocking. There are halloween parties for some, but no door knocking. No offence taken doc but are the only traditions that we take part in solely Australian. Are we not allowed to use other countries ideas. Did we think up new years eve or Christmas etc etc. I mean im not religious and dont believe in the birth of christ etc so its not my tradition and I dont think Jesus was born in Tamworth so it definately isnt Australian. Yet we still celebrate it.
Meinoz Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 No offence taken doc but are the only traditions that we take part in solely Australian. Are we not allowed to use other countries ideas. Did we think up new years eve or Christmas etc etc. I mean im not religious and dont believe in the birth of christ etc so its not my tradition and I dont think Jesus was born in Tamworth so it definately isnt Australian. Yet we still celebrate it. Well give it back and get back to work. Imagine how more productive Aust would be if only Christians could have the day off to celebrate Easter & Christmas. The rest of you thugs can have boxing day......
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