Good Speaker Match For Marantz Cd6002 And Pm6002

[cjgolf]

I have settled on Marantz CD6002 and PM6002 and now I need some good speakers to do this set up justice.

Need 2 floor stand speakers. My budget for these is $750-$800. Will go higher if doing so would give me a significant additional benefit for the above system.

I know I need to go and listen to some speakers but I would like to get some ideas from people who have much more experience than me.

Will be used for listening to music of a wide range – pretty much anything other than hard rock.

Place – open plan family room - kitchen. Dull acoustics. About 5 mtr x 5mtr in the listening area.

Will not be up loud so I need good definition ( is that a proper hi fi term  ) at low volume.

At present I would probably be getting Jamo S606s – 2 front speakers only. The feedback on these seems to be good and looks like it would be a good all round choice.

I have had a good look at http://whathifi.com/ etc.

Others that I think may fall into my price range after the usual discounting:

Krix - Floorstanding Speakers Apex 4 Timber veneer version

Monitor Audio’s BR5

Slightly more expensive:

Focal.JM lab Chorus 714 V

Would love to get others thoughts on how too get the most out of these components.

Could be of interest to others:

Jamo C605 RRP $1399 is available for $899 at:

http://www.oo.com.au/Jamo_Concert_Series_2...C2.cfm?AFID=10#

Edited October 12, 2008 by cjgolf

[Juicester]

why floorstanders? you're cutting out a lot of great bookshelf options at that price point. Apart from the low end that you'd lose in a bookshelf, at that price you may end up with a sweeter mid and high range with a bookshelf...

[ritzav]

why floorstanders? you're cutting out a lot of great bookshelf options at that price point. Apart from the low end that you'd lose in a bookshelf, at that price you may end up with a sweeter mid and high range with a bookshelf...

Agreed about the bookshelf, something like the B&W 685 would match the Marantz really well IMO.

Personally speaking, the good thing about getting a decent pair of bookshelf as a start is that 'if and when you upgrade' to get a full 5.1 system later, then you can use these pair of bookshelves as your rears and get some decent floorstanding then to keep the cost of the upgrade to 5.1 down.... To me, HT is about building blocks slowly and steadily because we all get hit with upgraditis very frequnetly

Sorry this does not help OP cause but with my very limited experience I do not know of any decent floostanders at a $1000 mark.

goodluck.

Edited October 12, 2008 by ritzav

[Juicester]

Personally speaking, the good thing about getting a decent pair of bookshelf as a start is that 'if and when you upgrade' to get a full 5.1 system later, then you can use these pair of bookshelves as your rears and get some decent floorstanding then to keep the cost of the upgrade to 5.1 down

too true - this is exactly what I'll be doing. When i get the cash for the fronts i want (which will take a while since i have my eyes set on the 802D's), i'll be moving the 705's to the rear.

Monitor Audio BR5 rrp $1100. Reckon you can get them for a touch under a grand.

Dali Speakers $758 could be had for under $700...

Though the BR5's would be waaaaay better inmho.

Edited October 12, 2008 by jcjuice

[Jeffie1503561482]

or just have a full standmount setup and let the sub/s do the work for bass.

[petetherock]

I would consider the BR 5 and the JM Lab 714

Cheers

[dantan]

G'day cjgolf, I hope that you will indeed be able to source the CD6002/PM6002 at a really good price. This pairing is a really good one at this price level, and I am sure you will be enjoying this sytem for years to come.

Loudspeakers-wise, I would recommend:

Krix Apex MkIV

Krix Phoenix (RRP is about $1,500.00 for proper wood finish, but street price is between $1,100.00 and $1,200.00)

Monitor Audio BR5

Krix themselves recommend Marantz gear, by the way.

Dan.

[Jeffie1503561482]

LOL you would swear that you work for krix dantan.

[Juicester]

ahh everyone becomes a fan boy of their own brand! i reccommend b&w as much as i can!

i think the 685's would be perfect for him - if he wanted a standmounter of course.

[cjgolf]

ahh everyone becomes a fan boy of their own brand! i reccommend b&w as much as i can!

i think the 685's would be perfect for him - if he wanted a standmounter of course.

I had them on my list initially due to what hi fi etc said:

http://whathifi.com/Review/BandW-685/

Then I dismissed bookshelf now I am open to the idea.

Need to get out and listen to the narrowed down list.

I just spoke to the distributor and I think they will be fine for what I need. He also mentioned the CM1s which sound like they could really be something else again.

So many choices so little time

Edited October 13, 2008 by cjgolf

[cjgolf]

G'day cjgolf, I hope that you will indeed be able to source the CD6002/PM6002 at a really good price. This pairing is a really good one at this price level, and I am sure you will be enjoying this sytem for years to come.

Loudspeakers-wise, I would recommend:

Krix Apex MkIV

Krix Phoenix (RRP is about $1,500.00 for proper wood finish, but street price is between $1,100.00 and $1,200.00)

Monitor Audio BR5

Krix themselves recommend Marantz gear, by the way.

Dan.

Thanks Dantan - i took your advise and indeed got a really good price.

I also spoke to Jamo dist and it seems like the c605 wld be a better fit for my needs (music) than than s606.

[dantan]

LOL you would swear that you work for krix dantan.

I wish I worked for Krix, mate, but I am sure I am not qualified to work in the audio business. Would be nice, though. Maybe I could be Krix's janitor, or something.

[dantan]

Thanks Dantan - i took your advise and indeed got a really good price.

I also spoke to Jamo dist and it seems like the c605 wld be a better fit for my needs (music) than than s606.

You are most welcome, mate.

Unfortunately, I have not had the privilege of auditioning many Jamo's. They do manufacture some really lovely loudspeakers, but their absolute bottom-of-the-range ones seem extremely average to my humble ears.

Further to jcjuice's recommendation, the B&W 685 stand-mount loudspeakers would be amongst my first recommendations, but you did say floor-standing loudspeakers, that's why my recommendations for your specified budget were for the Krix's and Monitor Audio.

[Guest fast_eddie_d1503561227]

Hi

Not sure where you are located, but I would also recommend the Orpheus Aurora 2 I think they are up to ver 3 now. The distribution of Orpheus speakers is a bit limited so they can be difficult to audition. The owner of Orpheus (Kiat) has some run out stock of the ver 2 on sale at audiodiscs.com.au for a decent discount which may help with the budget.

[cjgolf]

You are most welcome, mate.

Unfortunately, I have not had the privilege of auditioning many Jamo's. They do manufacture some really lovely loudspeakers, but their absolute bottom-of-the-range ones seem extremely average to my humble ears.

Further to jcjuice's recommendation, the B&W 685 stand-mount loudspeakers would be amongst my first recommendations, but you did say floor-standing loudspeakers, that's why my recommendations for your specified budget were for the Krix's and Monitor Audio.

You are correct I have done a switch on the floor stand option. I dont know if I am getting more educated or confused by the day

I just learned I spoke to somebody pretty high up at the B&W distributor and he was very helpfull so I think I may be getting a bit more informed. Learning that some brtands have more margin than others which is of course understandable.

I am will be doing some listening over the next few days.

This forum has been of great help so thanks for the responses.

[dantan]

You are correct I have done a switch on the floor stand option. I dont know if I am getting more educated or confused by the day

I just learned I spoke to somebody pretty high up at the B&W distributor and he was very helpfull so I think I may be getting a bit more informed. Learning that some brtands have more margin than others which is of course understandable.

I am will be doing some listening over the next few days.

This forum has been of great help so thanks for the responses.

You are welcome, mate. We are all here to help - although we sometimes end up confusing everyone else.

I tend to prefer floor-standing loudspeakers myself; thanks to their larger internal volume, they are able to provide more scale, and they generally are more sensitive and can thus go louder. They tend to favour a larger room, though, although for smaller floor-standers, they are fine for smaller to medium-sized rooms. The thing with stand-mount loudspeakers is that you have to factor in good, solid, loudspeaker stands, which, when you factor them into the equation, tend to make floor-standing loudspeakers appear better value-for-money.

However, for the same amount of money, I would say that the stand-mount loudspeaker tends to be of better quality, because the rest of the budget has gone into the drivers, cross-over, etc, instead of going into the larger cabinet, etc.

[Juicester]

You are welcome, mate. We are all here to help - although we sometimes end up confusing everyone else.

I tend to prefer floor-standing loudspeakers myself; thanks to their larger internal volume, they are able to provide more scale, and they generally are more sensitive and can thus go louder. They tend to favour a larger room, though, although for smaller floor-standers, they are fine for smaller to medium-sized rooms. The thing with stand-mount loudspeakers is that you have to factor in good, solid, loudspeaker stands, which, when you factor them into the equation, tend to make floor-standing loudspeakers appear better value-for-money.

ooooh. big call! You know there is a very well respected train of thought that under the threshold of 5k, you're better off buying a standmount - in terms of getting more high fidelity sound for your dollar.... sure they trade off low end bass... but i'm not sure why you think large speakers are 'more sensitive'. I think you'd also be hard pressed to find a floor stander that has the sweet top end and mid-range of some standmount designs. Floor standers make a big impact to be sure.

[cjgolf]

ooooh. big call! You know there is a very well respected train of thought that under the threshold of 5k, you're better off buying a standmount - in terms of getting more high fidelity sound for your dollar.... sure they trade off low end bass... but i'm not sure why you think large speakers are 'more sensitive'. I think you'd also be hard pressed to find a floor stander that has the sweet top end and mid-range of some standmount designs. Floor standers make a big impact to be sure.

Paradigm Titan Monitor

B&W 685

B&W CM1

on the potential list at present.

[Gutty]

Hi

Not sure where you are located, but I would also recommend the Orpheus Aurora 2 I think they are up to ver 3 now. The distribution of Orpheus speakers is a bit limited so they can be difficult to audition. The owner of Orpheus (Kiat) has some run out stock of the ver 2 on sale at audiodiscs.com.au for a decent discount which may help with the budget.

I too liked the Aurora 2's when i tested them with my setup. Good bang for buck IMO.

Other than that, i like Paradigms, Focals, B&Ws....

[Juicester]

i'd still keep the BR5's on your list mate. It'll give you a good idea of comparisons between floor and standmounters.

Chuck the Monitor Audio RS1's on your audition list too. rrp$950. Can be had for less of course.

[mrdenn1s]

Mate,

I have the Jamo 606's....I think they are great.

I also listened to the 606's with the extra woofer built in...these were just too mushy for me.

You wont be disappointed at all

[Jeffie1503561482]

i think maybe we should just throw some shops at you and you can listen to brands you might not have thought of, as well as the ones suggested?

cant remember if you were in syd or not... but sydney hi fi in castle hill have orpheus, elac, jamo, kef, sonique...

if you are travelling that way head out to the lifestyle store in parramatta for B&W, Mission, Mordaunt Short, and then eastwood isnt too far from there for paradigm.

[ritzav]

And the Lifestyle store have this extended hours sale coming up soon... goodluck.

http://www.lifestylestore.com.au/PDF/Sale%...tertainment.pdf

[dantan]

ooooh. big call! You know there is a very well respected train of thought that under the threshold of 5k, you're better off buying a standmount - in terms of getting more high fidelity sound for your dollar.... sure they trade off low end bass... but i'm not sure why you think large speakers are 'more sensitive'. I think you'd also be hard pressed to find a floor stander that has the sweet top end and mid-range of some standmount designs. Floor standers make a big impact to be sure.

I don't doubt that for smaller to maybe medium-sized rooms that good stand-mount loudspeakers on good sturdy loudspeaker stands sound exceptionally good. If you were to spend $5,000.00 on a pair of stand-mount loudspeakers, you will almost certainly get a better loudspeaker than a $5,000.00 pair of floor-standing loudspeaker, as the budget has not gone into the bigger cabinet and additional bracing, etc.

When I say more sensitive, I mean more sensitive to a given power in-put. Floor-standing loudspeakers are generally more sensitive, due to their larger cabinet size.

[Juicester]

surely there can't be that many floorstanders for under 1k that a more sensitive than 89db ? several standmounts at that price point which are this sensitive..