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youd think itll still reach 3-4k import sorta price.

I'll take a guess and say $2K to $2.5K.

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I'll take a guess and say $2K to $2.5K.

Atleast there's a serial number on the auction - (SN:VPLVW60)(106706 - 10)

Can always call sony and verify it's Aussie stock and not an import etc.

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Yes I've noticed a similar things with their other auctions too, stuff seems to go for prices that you could match with a bit of bargaining.

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So once the auction is closed how do you find the final price!

cheers laurie

Click on the red 'Bidding History' text

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Would have liked to PM the poster and suggested a more subtle approach but with the post count at 3 it won't happen.

Shame because there's nothing to suggest it's not a legit business, just unaware of the forum rules.

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This may be a legit business but could also be a scam, you pay for the item in full before they will purchase it, they could take your money and run.

That's a risk I would not personally take, I would rather purchase from the US via a mob like Price USA who can buy from any US supplier including shop front only retailers.

They also offer insurance to cover return shipping to the US in the event of a warranty claim for a very modest sum.

Posting an add for your business in multiple threads amounts to SPAM.

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There does not appear to be a physical address for this "business" and only a mobile phone number, not very confidence inspiring.

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I'm a sole trader who has just started my own business and launched yesterday. From the research I've done so far I can't seem to find any other businesses who do the same thing, so people aren't really going to know to look for me... So I figured the best way to reach the kinds of people who would be looking for my kinds of service would be to write to you directly...

There is no physical address because I don't have a shop-front, as I said, I'm a sole trader who negotiates for my clients, which means all my 'business' will be done over a mobile phone, emails and in the actual store... thus no need for a physical location.

There is a fool born every minute so there will always be people who will not be put off by a lack of a physical address, ABN and land line number, however shrewd consumers should be very reluctant to deal with an on line business that does not provide such information, especially one that has not been trading long and therefore has no track record.

If you have an ABN and or registered business name it would be helpful to state them clearly in the "Contact" page of your web site. An address that matches the ABN or registered business may be optional but certainly provides added credibility. You can say its not a shopfront and for mail only.

Fraud is definitely a concern when dealing with on line businesses, especially when they are starting out and have no history, thats something you have to recognise and deal with.

Getting paid for your service is going to be problematic and without credit card facilities things will be difficult. I cant see how you could use the purchasers credit card details to make the purchase for them, and for the consumer to pay you the full price by any means other than by credit card puts them at unacceptable risk.

Maybe you could provide a quote for the product and your service and only provide info on where to buy when you have been paid your service fee. The amount of money involved would not be significant, not cost much in card fees and be palatable for direct bank transfer.

Best of luck with your enterprise.

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Agree Owen; and believe it would be easier if the business sold the name and location of the deal for the goods. This would allow the purchaser to buy direct once they paid for the purchase information. If it was a negotiated deal then it could require some form of written price arrangement with the supplier which would only be honoured if the written quote was provided from the Business . This would be necessary as the purchaser would not pay for the service unless there were a real savings, so the price would need to be provided prior to the supplier information.

I checked website and it asks for things like advertised price etc... and I am unsure why it is required.

If it is basically a fee-for-service arrangement and the service is - 'I get X% of the savings on any purchase item' then understand why one needs to provide their negotiated price as it forms the basis for the negotiation and payment; not some advertised price though the price can be an advertised sale price.

I know I would be more comfortable with this type of arrangement especially if payment was made by Paypal.

I would also assume that the business would form strategic partnerships with a set of suppliers allowing for up front negotiated pricing. As example, one could arrange an agreement with a few HI-FI shops to get a substantial discount on Hi-Hi goods purchased and then use them as the basis for all quotes for specific Hi-Fi- goods. There is little money in negotiating a price for every item purchased with a large number of suppliers.

It is almost like a Group Buy for a range of kit the supplier(s) sell(s). One might even be able to do this with Harvey Norman; but unsure of this. There are many GB's that have a preferred supplier arrangement as they have had GB's with them in the past. I ran a few GB's using the same supplier and included a couple of products in the GB and the supplier gave a better price due to the volume of the deal. The biggest GB I was a part of, purchaser not organiser, was for close to 100 Pioneer Plasmas which topped $900k in revenue for the supplier.

Basically, this type of service appeals to me as I can see negotiating a deal with my HIFI shop and asking for a price comparison.

Understand the risk to the business is the customer may go back to their shop and say 'I can get it for this and you need to match'. If they match then there would be 'No Sale' ; however if the price is good enough then their shop may not price match. Also, if savings were small then one might decide not to purchase the supplier name and pricing as they would prefer to maintain the relationship with their supplier. As example I would buy from my local HIFi shop if price was within $100 ( for say a $2000+ item).

I can also see it for those that don't like to negotiate and want someone else to do it for them. Either way it is a fee-for-service arrangement.

Also, I think it would be much more palatable if the business was a fee-for-service business and collected a percentage of the savings given you want to price as a 'value-add' rather than a fixed-price service.

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I would rather purchase from the US via a mob like Price USA who can buy from any US supplier including shop front only retailers.

They also offer insurance to cover return shipping to the US in the event of a warranty claim for a very modest sum.

Seriously?

Buying online from overseas is certainly one way to save money but there are trade-offs like delivery and insurance costs, difficulties with returning items (not impossibilities, but certainly difficulties) and the damage to the Australian Retail Sector (if you care about that kind of thing).

If, hypothetically, you were able to get the same TV at the same price from either Pay USA or by negotiating the price yourself from an Australian retailer (Pay USA suggests around 10%-50% off prices, and I find you can get around 30%-35% off TVs with good negotiating, so prices might be close), wouldn't it be better to buy from an Australian retailer who can offer home delivery/setup (if you want them) and have good return policies for damaged equipment etc (and even if some of these businesses are forreign owned, they still employ Australian workers). There's something to be said for being able to walk right into a store, look a salesperson in the eye and tell him that you're not happy with something they've done, or sold you; it's probably not worth huge sums of money, but if prices were comparable I think it would surely be worthwhile going local.

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