g12345567 Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Just letting everybody know BIG-W have in there latest brochure AWA 42" (106cm) plasma with built In HD tuner. Resolution" 1024x769 Brightness 1000cd-m2 Contrast ratio: 10,000:1 Viewing angle 180 DEG HDMI/HDCP support PC media input 3 year warranty Built in HD tuner CP42PDH105 NEW $998 I remember last month they had a Sanyo HD plasma that sold out almost straight away. So if you are interested in this one I suggest you get in early to avoid missing out.
myrantz Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 I remember last month they had a Sanyo HD plasma that sold out almost straight away. So if you are interested in this one I suggest you get in early to avoid missing out. It's bait and switch. They prob have half a set for sale at each store, and it's snapped up by internal BigW employees... Grrr
Sabor Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 It's bait and switch. They prob have half a set for sale at each store, and it's snapped up by internal BigW employees... Grrr Half a set for sale at each store - that's GOLD!!
kulfi Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Just letting everybody know BIG-W have in there latest brochureAWA 42" (106cm) plasma with built In HD tuner. HN had the Samsung 42" A410 for $999 last month. Some users reported getting the LG PG20D for the same price that day. Waltz into a HN (or any other store for that matter), tell them that's the price you're going to pay, show them the money and forget the days of lining up outside Big W.
nis200979 Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Both screens are only 1024 x 768, i realise that is hardly a problem with our current broadcast levels but surely 100 dollars cheaper for an actual high definition screen i.e. the soniq is still better value?The samsung tv is great and looks extremely nice in house, but it is still very much an entry level tv. I would rather a HD LG /Samsung over a Full HD OEM screen with a Soniq badge any day of the week. Although not the best screens on the market, at least Samsung and LG put some time, money and research into their electronics, the important parts of the TV. A Soniq is simply the cheapest screen sourced so that JB can advertise a particular price point in their latest catalogue. On a 42" tv, resolution is almost the least important feature. I would take a PDP-428XDA over a Full HD Soniq/Sanyo/AWA/Aldi<insert cr@p here> screen any time simply because a 428 is better in every respect except viewing from <1.5-2m in respect to cage door.
nis200979 Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Normally I would completely agree but we are talking about tv's under $1000 dollars here, i doubt it is going to matter to much what name is on the front of it when one brand is offering a lot more in terms of picture quality. And probably why when shopping for a sub $1000 you should go for quality not the latest features, ie: Full HD. The Panasonic TH42PX7A was had for the mid $900s for a while. Not Full HD, but much much better than OEM screens, and a brand that is known for generally high quality manufacturing, something Aldi screens and the like are not known for.
kulfi Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Both screens are only 1024 x 768, i realise that is hardly a problem with our current broadcast levels but surely 100 dollars cheaper for an actual high definition screen i.e. the soniq is still better value?The samsung tv is great and looks extremely nice in house, but it is still very much an entry level tv. Please define "actual high definition" - or is this a new marketing term from the guys who gave us "Full HD" ? The Soniq is also an entry-level TV. At least AWA has the decency to provide a 3-year warranty. Soniq offers only 1-year. All these TVs (Soniq/AWA/Samsung/LG/Panasonic) are entry-level flat screens for Joe Average to get a big screen thrill for a three-figure price, so why not buy the brand for almost the same price ? I'd be willing to pay only around $600 for the Soniq/AWA stuff. Anything over that and it's big brand territory. Besides that, I haven't seen a single 1365X768 42" entry-level plasma yet, so how do we know the JB catalogue wasn't a misprint or a copy-paste from a 50" plasma spec ? Edited September 23, 2008 by kulfi
slugger Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 AWA? That's a blast from the past. I think I'll hold out for a Rank-Arena 50" Full HD plasma.
kulfi Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Soniq for an asking price of $898 + $100 for extended warranty. That price can be negotiated for cash in your JB, so it is better value as compared to the AWA. There is no such thing as "Actual HD". The resolution should be 1366 X 768 (not 1376X768) for a TV to have a native aspect ratio of 16:9 (and not 4:3 with rectangular pixels like the 1024X768 TVs). I think that is what you were trying to say. I've mentioned alternatives to the PX8 above, which have been purchased for $999 or lower. The Samsung has a 2 year factory warranty so it's not 20% more expensive compared to the $898 + 1 year extended warranty price you would ask for the Soniq. The real figure may be closer to 5% to 10% but clearly under $1000. This is the Soniq that you're referring to - http://www.soniqav.com/Qvision.php?mdm=e5c...c98ed8ed354466e Here's the $50 to $100 costlier Samsung - http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/detail/...&fullspec=F I leave the decision to the readers - AWA, Soniq or a branded item.
Sabor Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 AWA were a marvel when they released their 26" LCD for $1500 in 2005. At the time, other brands were selling for over $2000, in some cases well over $2000. Now that prices between the "generic" brands and big-name brands have almost reached parity, it makes it harder to justify plonking down your hard-earned on "generic".
kulfi Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 AWA? That's a blast from the past.I think I'll hold out for a Rank-Arena 50" Full HD plasma. Oops - I missed this post. Rank Arena CRTs/DVD players are already available in your local Woolies supermarket. Their plasmas and BluRay players might make an appearance in the pre-Xmas Big W catalogue so be careful what you wish for !
kulfi Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 AWA were a marvel when they released their 26" LCD for $1500 in 2005. At the time, other brands were selling for over $2000, in some cases well over $2000.Now that prices between the "generic" brands and big-name brands have almost reached parity, it makes it harder to justify plonking down your hard-earned on "generic". Fully agree. I bought an Acer 32" LCD TV for $898 from OfficeWorks in March 2007. Didn't take the $99 cashback because Acer extended the factory warranty to 5 years. There was no way to argue with that logic - a branded 32" LCD was going for $2000 at the time so this was just awesome. Pity the generic guys aren't the price leaders like they used to be.
nis200979 Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 well i work there and have seen both the TV and box. when i say actual hd i mean 1376 * 768 not 1024 * 768 like the awa. I dont understand why people are obsessed with brand names, further the soniq is 100 dollars cheaper and if you add a 3 yr warranty to it its the same price as awa for better spec'd tv.im not trying to plug soniq over actual brand name tvs, but my point is the next step up from these is another 200 or so for cheapest 1376 * 768 brand name tv ie PX8 and thats approx 20% on top for people looking to only spend 1000 and only has 1 yr warranty. Well thats why you love the screen so much then, you sell them. The extra $100 gives you a much better PQ, reliability, and a better quality remote that makes living with it day to day much easier. In this day and age where three dvd's costs $100, WHY would you buy an AWA PDP over a Samsung or Panasonic?
kulfi Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) In this day and age where three dvd's costs $100, WHY would you buy an AWA PDP over a Samsung or Panasonic? A lot of people don't know about the better deals, so they line up outside Big W and get disappointed when they sell out in 2 mins. It's just sad when you see something like that happen to decent folks. Edited September 23, 2008 by kulfi
nis200979 Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Note that JB Hi-Fi currently has the Soniq (aka LG) HD Plasma with built in tuner for $898 with the option of 3 years / 5 years warranty for $100 / $150ishStats: Model: QSP422T Screen Resolution: 1376 x 768 (720p) Built in HD Tuner Optical Output 2 x HDMI Inputs Seems to be a small step up from the Big W offering of AWA, in that is a high definition screen as well as tuner. Funny how EVERY LG HD (not Full HD) 42" PDP has a 1024x768 resolution panel, but Soniq claims to have 1365x768 on their 42" LG derived Plasma panel. The fact that a manufacturer / distrubutor cannot get the specs correct shows how little they know or care about there own (rebadged OEM) screens. Why waste your money?
nis200979 Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 So your saying Soniq falsely claim 1376/66 (sorry like i said im just a box mover) * 768? I've got no problems with box movers, I used to work at one. I used to sell lots of good quality stuff, a little bit of top quality stuff, and reluctantly a bit of cr@p at the same quality (or lack thereof) of Soniq. What I do have a problem with is the fact that an importer that imports bulk quantities of cheap OEM rebadged boat anchors that are Soniq PDPs, and incorrectly states the specifications. I don't believe there have ever been any 42" PDP resolutions other than: 852x480, 1024x1024, 1024x768, 1920x1080 Tell me if I'm wrong.
kulfi Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 So your saying Soniq falsely claim 1376/66 (sorry like i said im just a box mover) * 768? Not really. I think he's trying to say that Soniq is falsely claiming that the panel is LG. There could be a possibility of getting a 42" 1366X768 plasma panel but not from Samsung/LG/Panasonic, as these smaller brands claim.
myrantz Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 I've got no problems with box movers, I used to work at one. I used to sell lots of good quality stuff, a little bit of top quality stuff, and reluctantly a bit of cr@p at the same quality (or lack thereof) of Soniq.What I do have a problem with is the fact that an importer that imports bulk quantities of cheap OEM rebadged boat anchors that are Soniq PDPs, and incorrectly states the specifications. I don't believe there have ever been any 42" PDP resolutions other than: 852x480, 1024x1024, 1024x768, 1920x1080 Tell me if I'm wrong. Jumping to conclusions? Technically the manufacturer can cut a panel up into any resolution it desire, it doesn't have to follow 16:9, 16:10, 4:3 or 3:2 ratios. Chances are, you're not wrong though.. They don't pay enough for people to write up stuffs nowadays.. Mind you doesn't really mean there's anything wrong with the Soniqs though. No matter what you guys say, if given a choice, I would still prefer a no brand panel..
bille Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Jumping to conclusions? Technically the manufacturer can cut a panel up into any resolution it desire, it doesn't have to follow 16:9, 16:10, 4:3 or 3:2 ratios.Chances are, you're not wrong though.. They don't pay enough for people to write up stuffs nowadays.. Mind you doesn't really mean there's anything wrong with the Soniqs though. No matter what you guys say, if given a choice, I would still prefer a no brand panel.. I have a customer who told me he was a writer, I asked what he wrote he said technical/owner manuals, when I asked him for which products he said anything at all. When I asked how he could know about everything he told me he didn't have to because the company sends him the basics and he just puts it into "Plain speak" so people can understand it. That was when I discovered why I find it hard to follow technical/owner manuals. Fair dinkum, this guy couldn't find the edge of a busy highway if he was standing in the middle of the road .
george-m Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 (edited) G'day all! Which one would you buy?......... The 42" AWA HD Plasma TV (with a 3 year warranty) for $998 ..or a 42" Panasonic HD Plasma (with a 1 year warranty) for $1,288 --------------------------------------------------- AWA 42"/106cm plasma with built In HD tuner - NEW $998. * Resolution" 1024x769 * Brightness 1000cd-m2 * Contrast ratio: 10,000:1 * Viewing angle 180 DEG * HDMI/HDCP support * PC media input * 3 year warranty * Built in HD tuner * CP42PDH105 (Anyone got any more specs on this TV) ---------------------------------------------------- Panasonic 42"/106cm High Definition Plasma TV - NEW $1,288. [ VIERA TH42PX8A ] * Integrated High Definition Digital Tuner * 2x HDMI™ connectivity * 1024 x 768 resolution * 11th Generation Plasma panel * 100Hz Double Scan Technology * Screen Aspect - 16:9 Wide * Max. 1,000,000:1 Contrast Ratio (15000:1 Native) * 68Billion viewable colours * Over 700 Lines Motion Picture Resolution * Sub Pixel Controller * Motion Pattern Noise Reduction * 3D Colour Management * Music/Speech Sound Mode * 2x Full-Range Speaker System * Audio Output -20W (10Wx2) * Sound Mode for Audio * VIERA Link - when connected with selected Panasonic DVD Recorder/ HT with HDMI * Multi-window - PAT (1 tuner) * Aspect Controls - 16:9/Just/4:3/Zoom1/Zoom2/Zoom3 * Off Timer * HD tuner other feature -7 day EPG * 2x Component Video Input * 2x S-Video (1 front) * Audio Input (for Video) - AV 1/2/3/4:RCA phone type (L/R) (3 sets rear, 1x front) * PC Input - Mini D-sub 15-pin x1 (rear) * 4x Composite Video Input (1x front) * 4x Audio Input for video (1x front) * 2x Audio input for HDMI (1x front) * 1x PC input - Mini D-sub 15-pin (Audio Via AV2) * 1x Composite Audio out * 1x Composite Monitor out * 1x Digital Audio out * 1x Headphone jack (1 front) * Includes pedestal stand (inside the box) * Dimensions (WxHxD): 1020mm x 727mm x 327mm (w/ stand) * Weight (Net): 27kgs (w/ stand) =================================== Edited September 25, 2008 by george-m
kulfi Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Which one would you buy?.........The 42" AWA HD Plasma TV (with a 3 year warranty) for $998 ..or a 42" Panasonic HD Plasma (with a 1 year warranty) for $1,288 Samsung 42" A410 plasma with a 2-year warranty for $999 or less post-negotiations, delivered to your home. Almost impossible to argue with that. Check out my previous posts on this thread for the rest of the info.
george-m Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Samsung 42" A410 plasma with a 2-year warranty for $999 or less post-negotiations, delivered to your home. Almost impossible to argue with that.Check out my previous posts on this thread for the rest of the info. If you did buy one of those two I mentioned...would it be the AWA or the Panasonic?
kulfi Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 If you did buy one of those two I mentioned...would it be the AWA or the Panasonic? The Pana - but not for $1288. That TV has been sold for $1099. The PX8 has generally cost $100 more than the Samsung and it continues to be so. BTW it's theoretically impossible to have a 180-degree viewing angle as claimed by Big W so I'm skeptical about the other specs as well.
george-m Posted September 26, 2008 Posted September 26, 2008 The Pana - but not for $1288. That TV has been sold for $1099. The PX8 has generally cost $100 more than the Samsung and it continues to be so. But if you did buy one of those two TVs at the price I quoted...would it be the AWA or the Panasonic?
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