Jimbo Jones Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 Hi All, Just about to get my new 50 incher Pioneer. There is great excitement. Opinion please: Should I mount it on the wall, or leave it on a stand on an entertainment unit? Context: Room is 5.5m x 5m, To be used for TV, movies and Xbox/Wii. Unfortunately there are windows on 2 sides, but have serious curtains that block out nearly all light. What is your experience with wall mount vs stand? Cheers, Jimbo.
Guest EZYHD Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 Hi All,Just about to get my new 50 incher Pioneer. There is great excitement. Opinion please: Should I mount it on the wall, or leave it on a stand on an entertainment unit? Context: Room is 5.5m x 5m, To be used for TV, movies and Xbox/Wii. Unfortunately there are windows on 2 sides, but have serious curtains that block out nearly all light. What is your experience with wall mount vs stand? Cheers, Jimbo. Wall mounts IMO look better if cables and PP are totally hidden (in wall), but stand mount is more practical if you intend to move abode at some time in the future.
50mxe20 Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 Either or. As Foxy says wall mount is outstanding but takes more work and is more permanent. One of things I like about wall mounting is it gives one a chance for simple lines and simple furniture and gives more scope for positioning a large centre speaker under it.
DigitalObserver Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 People I know fall into two categories, yes and no. a) the yes' like the lack of clutter, the ability to mount the centre easily (esp. a large box) the ability to chase the cables into the wall or run in the cavity. the no's don't want to chase the wall - drill holes, add the cost of plates etc etc. c) Another consideration that is mentioned is the relative depth of objects. Where the screen is wall mounted it is at the rear of all items and takes a lesser stage place in perspective terms. All other items - cabinet, speakers, receivers etc, with their lights/displays are in front of it and for some distract from it. I fall into this later category always feeling that the screen is diminished by this rear placement. I suspect others here will feel as suggested in the three alternatives. There are many fantastic examples of both styles in the forum and while many wall mounts are extremely well don and very attractive I always get the little feeling of c) when I look. Minimalist cabinet and neat stand for me. For you - look at the best examples of each and go with your subjective feeling.
Cratra Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) I have a purpose built HT room. I have my Pioneer 50" mounted on the wall. My room size is 5.5 x 4.2. I have all my speakers mounted into the walls contained in boxes with flush covers fitted over the top. All my components are mounted in the wall as well and no power points/cables etc can be seen as they are all behind the wall in the next room. I am lucky as I have rooms/cavities behind the walls that I can cut into to give me the depth I need to conceal all the components etc. I have my PC connected to the Plasma as well and have remote trackball and keyboard. This is the best thing I have as I am able to use the Internet while sitting on the lounge instead of at a desk. I can jump from Internet to Fox, Dvds etc at a press of one button. There is one big problem in setting up all this really well and that is getting out of the room????????? Edited June 13, 2008 by Cratra
Mining Man Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 ~c) Another consideration that is mentioned is the relative depth of objects. Where the screen is wall mounted it is at the rear of all items and takes a lesser stage place in perspective terms. All other items - cabinet, speakers, receivers etc, with their lights/displays are in front of it and for some distract from it. I fall into this later category always feeling that the screen is diminished by this rear placement. I suspect others here will feel as suggested in the three alternatives. There are many fantastic examples of both styles in the forum and while many wall mounts are extremely well don and very attractive I always get the little feeling of c) when I look. ~ In my last place, I built an entertainment shelf into the wall, so that all the components hung out of it, around about the same distance as the wall mounted plasma above it. Looked pretty good I reckon (photos are in my Underground Home Theatre thread), and avoided the scenario you described above, which I agree can sometimes look worse, especially if the entertainment unit beneath is particularly deep.
MrGadget Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I don't own a plasma but I would imagine if wall mounting them the distance between the viewer and plasma would be greater than if positioned ontop of a cabinet. it's a pure guess but maybe the 50" plasma will look like a 42" plasma if wall mounted due to the depth difference.
50mxe20 Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I fall into this later category always feeling that the screen is diminished by this rear placement. I suspect others here will feel as suggested in the three alternatives. There are many fantastic examples of both styles in the forum and while many wall mounts are extremely well don and very attractive I always get the little feeling of c) when I look.Minimalist cabinet and neat stand for me. For you - look at the best examples of each and go with your subjective feeling. Actually that is quite a good point and one I had noticed but not considered.
Mining Man Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I don't own a plasma but I would imagine if wall mounting them the distance between the viewer and plasma would be greater than if positioned ontop of a cabinet. it's a pure guess but maybe the 50" plasma will look like a 42" plasma if wall mounted due to the depth difference. Only if you sit less than a metre away, or have an entertainment unit that's 2 metres deep. And who said trigonometry would never come in use after high school?
50mxe20 Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I don't own a plasma but I would imagine if wall mounting them the distance between the viewer and plasma would be greater than if positioned ontop of a cabinet. it's a pure guess but maybe the 50" plasma will look like a 42" plasma if wall mounted due to the depth difference. Well after a few months they do shrink. When my daughters 50 arrived a week or so back I actually got out the tape measure to check it. There is no doubt you get used to it. Oh for a 60, or larger!!
MrMan Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 Pictures are worth a thousand words.... Cabinet >>> Pic 1 Pic 2 Pic 3 Wallmount >>> Pic 1 Pic 2 Pic 3 & a couple of favs Pic 1 Pic 2 Pic taken from here & here
greenhj Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) Here is my contribution. Bearing in mind that the massive opening used to house a 55" philips rear pro, rather than have it a metre plus from the wall and needing cabinets etc to house the other stuff I built a "false" wall so everything sits flush to the new wall. Behind the false wall is some 2" by 1" pvc ducting that houses all the cables and all gpo's are behind also. The front main speaker holes were made larger than what I had so the speakers I want will fit (when I buy them) Im all in favour of wall mounting provided the ht stuff doesnt overpower the area, It seems a waste to wall mount only to have a massive cabinet using space saved. (please ignore the sad little crtv that im forced to currently watch and bear in mind that all my gear is old but faithful, besides with two babies how loud can I really use it) And I built the lot. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q148/gr...up/100_0447.jpg Edit, sorry about the link, Im not sure how to post a pic. Edited June 13, 2008 by greenhj
ResmeN Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 Well after a few months they do shrink.When my daughters 50 arrived a week or so back I actually got out the tape measure to check it. There is no doubt you get used to it. Oh for a 60, or larger!! Yeah you get used to it but you can only go so big as the size of your room doesn't increase. I think the biggest you can go is a 60" in a standard 5 by 5 room.
ResmeN Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I personally will be wall mounting my new lg 50pg20d after my old samsung 42q used to be on a bench.
bernng Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) +1 for wall mount...!! It just makes the lounge room look "upmarket". Edited June 13, 2008 by bernng
diesel Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I ended up wall mounting mine as it makes the screen less "dominating" in the room (6mx4m) when it is flush up against the wall. On the stand it is out further into the room space and does appear larger. I'm with you Lyle, I yearn for a 60-65". My brothers bought a 60" a couple of months back and I finally got around to seeing it last weekend. Similar size room to mine and it looked so much better than my 50". Really filled the room nicely.
teko Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 +1 for wall mount...!!It just makes the lounge room look "upmarket". + 2 for wall mount. I agree it looks "polished" and also adds the additional 'wow' factor when friends visit. I painted the wall behind in a medium brown rustic shade which works really nicely with my baltic stained lowline unit and my piano black plasma. If you are wall mounting, I think it looks better without anything else on the wall (ie- picture frames etc.) as this enhances the tv further (if it is possible).
scottylans Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I know it sounds ridiculous but putting it on the wall makes it an extra half a foot further away - why buy a big screen to put it so far away? I'm about to replace my 36" CRT with a 50" plasma - it will be almost a foot further back due to the CRT having such a fat ass. - I wouldn't want it any further away, or I may as well just have pulled the CRT forward :/
Zedric Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I know it sounds ridiculous but putting it on the wall makes it an extra half a foot further away - why buy a big screen to put it so far away?I'm about to replace my 36" CRT with a 50" plasma - it will be almost a foot further back due to the CRT having such a fat ass. - I wouldn't want it any further away, or I may as well just have pulled the CRT forward :/ I can't see why you couldn't move your furniture forward if you wall mount. I went the wall mount option, as it leaves more space in the room. Cheers Zed
scottylans Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I can't see why you couldn't move your furniture forward if you wall mount. I went the wall mount option, as it leaves more space in the room. Cheers Zed It's not about the furniture location - it's about the TV being physically further away from my eyes by half a foot to a foot on the wall.
Struggo Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) It's not about the furniture location - it's about the TV being physically further away from my eyes by half a foot to a foot on the wall. I dont have a 50", but here is my 42" Hitachi on a stand. I have all my av gear behind the doors, http://profile.imageshack.us/user/struggo/...lastyearxy9.jpg 32" Philips wall mounted, http://profile.imageshack.us/user/struggo/...dcineos8oj9.jpg and for those who have brick or concrete walls and wish to wall mount, http://www.amazon.com/Solution-channel-wal...d=1BQAH9URVEL0E Cheers Struggo Edited June 13, 2008 by Struggo
MrGadget Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 Are there any wall mounts that have an arm attached that allows the plasma to swing out so that when in use it is closer to the view (similar to if on a cabinet)? I suppose weight would be a factor.
Struggo Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) Are there any wall mounts that have an arm attached that allows the plasma to swing out so that when in use it is closer to the view (similar to if on a cabinet)? I suppose weight would be a factor. No offence, but some of you are a little too worried about the wall v cabinet distance. My TV is on a low line. The front of the screen is only 340mm from the wall. This is hardly going to make a difference IMHO. Cheers Struggo Edited June 14, 2008 by Struggo
Mining Man Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Are there any wall mounts that have an arm attached that allows the plasma to swing out so that when in use it is closer to the view (similar to if on a cabinet)? I suppose weight would be a factor. Yep. Although their primary purpose is to swing the display off the wall at an angle, so you can see it better from a side-on angle. Ideal for all those early generation LCDs.
Mack357 Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) Hi All,Just about to get my new 50 incher Pioneer. There is great excitement. Opinion please: Should I mount it on the wall, or leave it on a stand on an entertainment unit? Context: Room is 5.5m x 5m, To be used for TV, movies and Xbox/Wii. Unfortunately there are windows on 2 sides, but have serious curtains that block out nearly all light. What is your experience with wall mount vs stand? Cheers, Jimbo. Hi Jimbo, I have had the 50" LX Pioneer since Easter. I chose the pedestal mount for convenience re cables etc. After three weeks I realised that I had made a hasty decision with the pedestal. I arranged with Pioneer for a wall mount (coughed up a couple hundred for the installers labour) and am abosuletly wrapped wiht the overall look of the room. The panel becomes a real feature as it is now stand alone from the brand new low line unit I had thought I had to have. Cables are concealed. I fully recommend a wall mount 100%. Edited June 14, 2008 by Mack357
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