Bebebeef Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) Hi guys, I just put down a $500 deposit for a 40" XBR that I was offered for $3159 (without $150 cashback) and including a 3 year warranty. Now it is only a deposit, so should I go ahead and purchase the TV? Is this a good decision based on price? I've been contemplating on getting the 40" Samsung F8s or the new 650 series but after seeing the quality of the XBR myself, I was in absolute awe. I do however, have the problem in deciding between the X or XBR. I mean, I like the look of the XBR more and it does seem and feel a lot more sturdy than the X but I'm not too sure if it was worth the extra money. Considering that I could have gotten the X series for $2500+ without the warranty, what should I do? So to recap: 40" XBR for $3159 (without $150 cashback) including 3 year warranty. Worth the price or not? Thanks for any input. Edited June 11, 2008 by Bebebeef
Underd0g Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Hi guys,I just put down a $500 deposit for a 40" XBR that I was offered for $3159 (without $150 cashback) and including a 3 year warranty. Now it is only a deposit, so should I go ahead and purchase the TV? Is this a good decision based on price? I've been contemplating on getting the 40" Samsung F8s or the new 650 series but after seeing the quality of the XBR myself, I was in absolute awe. I do however, have the problem in deciding between the X or XBR. I mean, I like the look of the XBR more and it does seem and feel a lot more sturdy than the X but I'm not too sure if it was worth the extra money. Considering that I could have gotten the X series for $2500+ without the warranty, what should I do? So to recap: 40" XBR for $3159 (without $150 cashback) including 3 year warranty. Worth the price or not? Thanks for any input. thats not too bad, particularly with the three yr warranty. Just wondering why you went the xbr over the x? did you really like the aluminium bezel?
Bebebeef Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 thats not too bad, particularly with the three yr warranty.Just wondering why you went the xbr over the x? did you really like the aluminium bezel? Because he was a good salesman lol. Nah, I did prefer the look of the XBR, but now I am having second thoughts. I mean it is just an aesthetic difference. So you think the bezel isn't worth it considering the price? I might head back to the store and see if I can get my deposit changed towards an X series instead. $2600 including the warranty sound alright?
Underd0g Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Because he was a good salesman lol. Nah, I did prefer the look of the XBR, but now I am having second thoughts. I mean it is just an aesthetic difference. So you think the bezel isn't worth it considering the price? I might head back to the store and see if I can get my deposit changed towards an X series instead. $2600 including the warranty sound alright? thats a keen price for the x, particularly with the warranty. and yeah the bezel is the only difference. Personally I don't see the value, however it'll be your tv. 300 bucks could go halfway to a decent blu ray player.
Bebebeef Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 Yeah good idea. I don't have a PS3 yet and I really want one. So X it is. Any tips or prices you would recommend me trying? I'm just going to go straight out and ask for $2600, see how I go.
Underd0g Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 I haven't got costs sitting right in front of me right now, but that'd be pretty keen from memory. Are you near Campbelltown, NSW bebebeef?
Bebebeef Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 I'm from Brisbane actually, so yeah bit of a distance hehe. Thinking about it, I'm actually more excited about getting an X series for $2600 than getting an XBR for $3159 which is strange considering I like the look of the XBR more. Maybe I just feel bad about spending a little over $3000 for a TV that is basically the same as its previous model but with a better looking frame. Hopefully, I can push for a $2600 X though.
forester_gump Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 I purchased a 46 inch XBR for $3349 ($-200 cashback = $3149) so for a few xtra bucks you get 6 inches more!!
Bebebeef Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 Nice. Where at may I ask? Although I am restricted to a bit of weight and the 46" maybe a bit too heavy for my stand.
mad89 Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 If you are spending a tad over $3k, im sure you could get the 46"X for that price. Also, FWIW, the 40X weighs 31kg, and the 46X only 38kg, according to Sony website. I reckon for the price you are willing to pay for the 40XBR, id go for the 46X - if itll fit!
Bebebeef Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 If you are spending a tad over $3k, im sure you could get the 46"X for that price.Also, FWIW, the 40X weighs 31kg, and the 46X only 38kg, according to Sony website. I reckon for the price you are willing to pay for the 40XBR, id go for the 46X - if itll fit! Really? So I'm spending too much on the 40"? It's just that the 46" will be too big and 40 is sufficient enough for my needs. Seriously, if I can get the 46" for only a little more than the 40", I'm going to haggle the price down further for the 40 otherwise I might just go with an X series model.
forester_gump Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Nice. Where at may I ask? Although I am restricted to a bit of weight and the 46" maybe a bit too heavy for my stand. Purchased from Good Guys in Melbourne.
kulfi Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Hi guys,I just put down a $500 deposit for a 40" XBR that I was offered for $3159 (without $150 cashback) and including a 3 year warranty. Now it is only a deposit, so should I go ahead and purchase the TV? Is this a good decision based on price? I've been contemplating on getting the 40" Samsung F8s or the new 650 series but after seeing the quality of the XBR myself, I was in absolute awe. I do however, have the problem in deciding between the X or XBR. I mean, I like the look of the XBR more and it does seem and feel a lot more sturdy than the X but I'm not too sure if it was worth the extra money. Considering that I could have gotten the X series for $2500+ without the warranty, what should I do? So to recap: 40" XBR for $3159 (without $150 cashback) including 3 year warranty. Worth the price or not? Thanks for any input. Look for mantronic's receipt or other receipts on Sony best price threads. The 46X for $2810 before cashback plus 2-year warranty extension for $179. There is no difference between the X and XBR but there is a massive difference between the 40 and 46 in size. I'd say go for the 46X and enjoy !
Bebebeef Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 Look for mantronic's receipt or other receipts on Sony best price threads. The 46X for $2810 before cashback plus 2-year warranty extension for $179. There is no difference between the X and XBR but there is a massive difference between the 40 and 46 in size. I'd say go for the 46X and enjoy ! Thanks, but the 46" is not really an option as the size is too large. Picture quality wise, they won't be much of a difference though would they? I will be sitting farely close to it, less than 2m. If I can get an X for cheap than I will get it though. Regardless of how good the XBR bezel is, I starting to think that it doesn't justify the price.
kulfi Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Thanks, but the 46" is not really an option as the size is too large. Picture quality wise, they won't be much of a difference though would they? I will be sitting farely close to it, less than 2m.If I can get an X for cheap than I will get it though. Regardless of how good the XBR bezel is, I starting to think that it doesn't justify the price. There's not much difference in price between the 40X and 46X. The 2m viewing distance could seal it in favour of the 40X. The XBR is a ridiculously overpriced TV, all for the bezel. You can buy a different-colour bezel for the X-series for $300 if you don't like the black one. To be honest, the glass around it takes away the attention from the bezel so even black is just fine. Picture quality is similar. Bigger size makes a difference to the amount of detail that becomes visible, that's all.
Bebebeef Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 Yeah I'm heading back tomorrow to see how I go with negotiating for a decent price towards the 40" X. I'm aiming for $2600 including warranty, I think that's pretty realistic.
Underd0g Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Thanks, but the 46" is not really an option as the size is too large. Picture quality wise, they won't be much of a difference though would they? I will be sitting farely close to it, less than 2m.If I can get an X for cheap than I will get it though. Regardless of how good the XBR bezel is, I starting to think that it doesn't justify the price. Less than 2 metres? thats a little close, even for a 40. Watching any form of sport on standard definition, will be disappointing, no matter what tv you pick. Minimum i suggest to my customers to sit back in 3 times how big it is. e.g - 101cm tv, minimum viewing sohould be 3.03 metres. Just remember, if it looks a little big in the shop chances are at home its too big. they alwyas look smaller at the shop, becasue of all the other massive tvs around them.
Guest Torylane Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Less than 2 metres? thats a little close, even for a 40. Watching any form of sport on standard definition, will be disappointing, no matter what tv you pick. Minimum i suggest to my customers to sit back in 3 times how big it is. e.g - 101cm tv, minimum viewing sohould be 3.03 metres. Just remember, if it looks a little big in the shop chances are at home its too big. they alwyas look smaller at the shop, becasue of all the other massive tvs around them. Owen !
Bebebeef Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 Less than 2 metres? thats a little close, even for a 40. Watching any form of sport on standard definition, will be disappointing, no matter what tv you pick. Minimum i suggest to my customers to sit back in 3 times how big it is. e.g - 101cm tv, minimum viewing sohould be 3.03 metres. Just remember, if it looks a little big in the shop chances are at home its too big. they alwyas look smaller at the shop, becasue of all the other massive tvs around them. True, well its just a deposit, I may lose $20 because of the cancellation fee but if the size of the screen doesn't suit my viewing distance then maybe I shouldn't get it. Although I won't be using it for standard definition viewing at the moment. Just for films and a lot of gaming. Maybe I should opt for a 32" then?
IanD1503559705 Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) In the days of the Sony widescreen CRT HDTV, their sales brochure suggested the best immersive effect was when viewing distance was 3x screen height. I haven't seen this referred to anywhere as most people concentrate on viewing distance and resolvable resolution. The public is so conditioned to 4:3 TVs, that I believe they follow the same approach with widescreen TVs, even though originally they were designed to produce a much more immersive experience. It's a bit off-topic, but I was wondering whether anyone has experimented with this immersive effect with a TV having sufficient resolution to be acceptable at this viewing distance. It probably takes a bit of getting used to, when we are all so used to viewing images at greater distance. To bring it slightly back on topic, the Sony recommendations mean that a 40" HDTV would be best viewed at 1.5m and a 46" at 1.7m, whilst a 52" would be necessary for 2m viewing distance and a 65" for 2.5m Edited June 11, 2008 by IanD
Bebebeef Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 So you're saying it doesn't matter how close I sit regardless of the screen size?
kulfi Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 So you're saying it doesn't matter how close I sit regardless of the screen size? If you want to lose your eyesight in a few days' time or start vomiting every time some fast-moving scenes come up, the viewing distance won't matter. As I've said before, the <2m viewing distance should tip the balance in favour of the 40". The other thing is price. You need not cancel the order. Just ask the store to match the price, now that you've got a better deal. If he doesn't match, then cancel it.
Bebebeef Posted June 12, 2008 Author Posted June 12, 2008 If you want to lose your eyesight in a few days' time or start vomiting every time some fast-moving scenes come up, the viewing distance won't matter. As I've said before, the <2m viewing distance should tip the balance in favour of the 40".The other thing is price. You need not cancel the order. Just ask the store to match the price, now that you've got a better deal. If he doesn't match, then cancel it. Yeah it's definitely going to be the 40". I'm going to wait until next week. I really want to see the 650 Samsung's in action before I make a permanent commitment to buy. If I lose $20 for cancelling my deposit so be it. Lol buying a TV ain't easy
Bebebeef Posted June 14, 2008 Author Posted June 14, 2008 So I went to JB Hifi today intending to cancel my preorder. That didn't happen. Instead, I left with a 40" X Series Bravia. $2579 (before cashback) including 3 years warranty and the manager threw in a $119.95 set of Belkin Pure AV HDMI cables for free. Not too shabby I think. Might feel a little regret later when the Samsung 6's come out for a cheaper price, but I'm really happy with my purchase now. Thanks for everyone's help, greatly appreciated guys.
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