Cabling Sydney (baulkham Hills/rouse Hill)

[SKG]

Hi all,

I finally got around to mounting my screen and projector, now I need someone to run some cables down the wall for me.

I've run them through the ceiling and into the roof but I can't get to the side wall cavity to run them down the wall.

So, does anyone know a good cableguy

I've run:

HDMI

Component

S-Video

VGA

Cheers

Steve

[diesel]

Spend $50 at Bunnings and buy drill bit extenders. Take off your roof tiles above the wall you want you go down in and but the extenders together and drill through the stud.

Alternatively use a jigsaw and cut through the gyprock/stud. Spend $50 in paint and plaster and job done.

If this is still all too hard, any electrician can do it for you.

[SKG]

Spend $50 at Bunnings and buy drill bit extenders. Take off your roof tiles above the wall you want you go down in and but the extenders together and drill through the stud.

Alternatively use a jigsaw and cut through the gyprock/stud. Spend $50 in paint and plaster and job done.

If this is still all too hard, any electrician can do it for you.

Yeah that's what I might do (tomorrow)

Cheers

Steve

[Roderick]

... and drill through the stud. ....

Noggin, actually .

[wheresbaz]

Hi SKG,

If it is a brick veneer house and the wall is an external wall. There will be a gap between brickwork and gyprock. Only requires removing a couple of roof tiles and you will see the gap. If it is internal then you need to drill through the noggin or as the guys are saying cut and shut on the gyprock.

Cheers Bill

[offshore]

Mate check your local paper. All you need is a decent electrician.

[Roderick]

Mate check your local paper. All you need is a decent electrician.

If you can get one, and if they turn up when they say they will. You'l need quite a lot of cash as well!

Much more satisfying to do it yourself -- be a Renaissance man, not a Wimp .

Rod

[SKG]

Thanks guys,

Yeah it is external wall and there is a gap. I'm gonna have to go hire a long ladder as it's all on the 2nd story

[Roderick]

Thanks guys,

Yeah it is external wall and there is a gap. I'm gonna have to go hire a long ladder as it's all on the 2nd story

Make sure you tie the ladder so it can't move sideways! .

Rod

[SKG]

Make sure you tie the ladder so it can't move sideways! .

Rod

Yeah I am sure I have some spare monster speaker cable to tie it up with

[Roderick]

Yeah I am sure I have some spare monster speaker cable to tie it up with

Don't laugh! Ladder falls are one of the the most common causes of injury admissions to Australian hospitals.

My house is also two storied, with gables. I repainted the wood bits about a year ago and had to face some fearsome heights to get to the bargeboards, with the feet of the ladder in the tanbark garden or even resting on the top of a garden table in order to reach the highest parts.

The only way I could pluck up enough courage to go up the ladder was to tie it off sideways (out both sides) with an old nylon mountaineering rope. That way it could not slide sideways and was a steady as a rock.

I urge you to do likewise!

Rod

[wheresbaz]

Don't laugh! Ladder falls are one of the the most common causes of injury admissions to Australian hospitals.

My house is also two storied, with gables. I repainted the wood bits about a year ago and had to face some fearsome heights to get to the bargeboards, with the feet of the ladder in the tanbark garden or even resting on the top of a garden table in order to reach the highest parts.

The only way I could pluck up enough courage to go up the ladder was to tie it off sideways (out both sides) with an old nylon mountaineering rope. That way it could not slide sideways and was a steady as a rock.

I urge you to do likewise!

Rod

As one who has been on a ladder many times I concur Rod. Very important to tie off ladder properly. Otherwise HT room will need bed that you can see screen from.

Cheers Bill

[diesel]

The alternative is to get into the roof space through the manhole on the second floor, remove some roof tiles and then climb onto the roof

[evilsync]

You actually need a licensed cabler (electrician can't do it without a license) to install communication cables through the wall/roof. Good to have done, just incase you have a fire etc and insurance company won't cough up..

[marcusd1503561159]

You actually need a licensed cabler (electrician can't do it without a license) to install communication cables through the wall/roof. Good to have done, just incase you have a fire etc and insurance company won't cough up..

Only needs to be licensed if your interfacing to telecoms network. Projector cabling does not come into this category

[laurie]

Mate of mine decided to do his own speaker wiring I warned him to be careful as I said I do it for him in a few weeks time as I am a sparkie well he got inpatient and decided to cut a hole in the wall to mount the plate well guess what he got one of those single bladed hack saws and started to cut then bang!! the only thing that saved him was the wooden handle when he cut into a power cable

cheers laurie

[laurie]

Only needs to be licensed if your interfacing to telecoms network. Projector cabling does not come into this category

Still need separation from any telecom cabling

cheers laurie

[Roderick]

You actually need a licensed cabler (electrician can't do it without a license) to install communication cables through the wall/roof. Good to have done, just incase you have a fire etc and insurance company won't cough up..

Yes, this applies to phone system wiring, 'evilsync'. Did not stop me connecting my alarm to the phone system, though.

The possiblility of causing a fire from the low voltages in speaker or projector cables is very remote. Almost like the urban myth about not using a mobile phone while filling the car with petrol -- static electricity is a much bigger worry there!

One should be careful about running speaker/ projector cables next to 240-volt cables, though, and observe where mains wiring is heading while in the ceiling space. There, you can see where mains wiring dives down the walls to switches & power points. The little buzzing voltage detectors you can buy from Dick Smith for $20 can also be a help in tracing 240-volt wiring inside the walls.

I suppose the most important rule about making holes in plaster is -- grip the drill's plastic handle, not the metal! The electricians just bash holes in the gyproc with the handle of a large screwdriver -- probably quite safe!

Rod

[SKG]

Mate of mine decided to do his own speaker wiring I warned him to be careful as I said I do it for him in a few weeks time as I am a sparkie well he got inpatient and decided to cut a hole in the wall to mount the plate well guess what he got one of those single bladed hack saws and started to cut then bang!! the only thing that saved him was the wooden handle when he cut into a power cable

cheers laurie

So, you wanna come and finish off my wiring ? (and yes, willing to pay)

Steve

[evilsync]

Yes, this applies to phone system wiring, 'evilsync'. Did not stop me connecting my alarm to the phone system, though.

The possiblility of causing a fire from the low voltages in speaker or projector cables is very remote. Almost like the urban myth about not using a mobile phone while filling the car with petrol -- static electricity is a much bigger worry there!

Not just phone wiring, also network cabling/coaxial tv cabling and the like (I'm not 100% sure on speaker cabling/projector cabling).

It's not so much the speaker cables causing the fire, its having unlicensed work on your house which is insured. Much like with your car, say you whack a turbo on your car and insure your car without informing the insurance company of the modifications you've done, they can quite legally not give you insurance money.

[marcusd1503561159]

Not just phone wiring, also network cabling/coaxial tv cabling and the like (I'm not 100% sure on speaker cabling/projector cabling).

It's not so much the speaker cables causing the fire, its having unlicensed work on your house which is insured. Much like with your car, say you whack a turbo on your car and insure your car without informing the insurance company of the modifications you've done, they can quite legally not give you insurance money.

The only cabling licenses required for residential work are ACA (telecoms) Security and electrical. A/V cabling is considered Extra Low Voltage (ELV) which is up to 32VAC or 115VDC. There are no segregation requirements between ELV cables, but there are requirements for separations between ELV and LV (240V) so as long as you avoid 240 you'll be sweet.

[willk]

Don't really want to hijack this thread but I'm actually thinking of having a HDMI cabling done to the projector and hanging up the projector screen at the same time. It's going to be in the living room and on top are roof tiles.

I've looked at some DIY books and they suggest that all I need are two wedges to lift the tiles above the tile I'm removing. I presume that I will need to remove a few tiles so that I can squeeze in to the top of the room and start drilling holes to hold the projector screen, the projector bracket and pull the HDMI wire.

Is this a job for the faint hearted or should I be looking for a sparky to do this? If so, how much would be reasonable to install all these? I'm in Melbourne.

I'm kinda looking forward to doing it myself but I think I will need some help given that one person wouldn't be able to install everything easily.

Thanks,

Willk

[yamapro]

Not just phone wiring, also network cabling/coaxial tv cabling and the like (I'm not 100% sure on speaker cabling/projector cabling).

It's not so much the speaker cables causing the fire, its having unlicensed work on your house which is insured. Much like with your car, say you whack a turbo on your car and insure your car without informing the insurance company of the modifications you've done, they can quite legally not give you insurance money.

Sorry mate but you are full of SHYTE

In which parallel universe is running some video cable through a wall akin to 'whacking a turbo on your car'?

Before making sweeping general statements about what is legal or not perhaps you could mention which act covers licensing on S-video cable running? That way everyone can make an informed decision not be scared off by paranoia/propaganda...

[willk]

I've been thinking about this a little bit more and thought why would I need a HDMI cable since I'm running it to a projector (no audio). So why not save on the cabling and just use a DVI-D cabling since my projector (Sanyo Z2) only accepts DVI-I. If I get a HDMI projector next time, I can always use a DVI-HDMI adaptor.

In other words, we run the cable as follows:

AV receiver -> HDMI (outlet) -> DVI (cable) - DVI/HDMI with adaptor (projector)

Does anyone see any flaw in this logic?