Un-australian

[aztec]

Most people do the right thing but there are two households in my area who continue to use sprinklers. Until recently most people's lawns were near dead and very brown but these two had beautiful, lush, green lawns, one an acre property so you can imagine the water required. Even recently with all the rain we've been getting they continue to use sprinklers.

I'm so tempted to dob them in.

[50mxe20]

Just make sure they don't have bores.

In WA there is no restriction on household bore use.

[Livingthedream]

that is a toughie...very unaustralian to dob someone in, but we are talking water here; which at the moment is the most precious resource we have.

I would maybe say something to them first next time you see them putting them on, before going any further.

i made a passing comment to one gemleman i saw hosing on dusk, havent seen him do it since.

[50mxe20]

that is a toughie...very unaustralian to dob someone in, but we are talking water here; which at the moment is the most precious resource we have.

I would maybe say something to them first next time you see them putting them on, before going any further.

i made a passing comment to one gemleman i saw hosing on dusk, havent seen him do it since.

Now he does it after midnight!

Yes, think I agree. It pays to be civil to people on your street. You never know when they may do you a favor.

If you get the bird then that's another matter and you can decide to go to the next level, or not.

[Santa1503559644]

Sounds like you aren't on speaking terms with them?

Having a word might be the best idea - ask how they are keeping 'em green.

WRT Dobbing and "un-Australian" ... maybe too much convict stock in the Aussie gene pool! Of course it depends on the situation, but often those who have the guts to "dob" are the people you'd rather have around than gutless "good luck to 'em" parasites! Just remember - corruption thrives on bullying.

[FMB]

Dob them in! I'm in Brisbane and we're on level 5 restrictions. Everything is dying before our very eyes. Our lawn quite literally crunches when you walk on it. We stopped watering our plants and washing the car when level 1 came into effect.

Our neighbour regularly hosed his pot plants for ages even after level 5 came in. We made some comment so they could hear it and what did they do? Stop hosing? No, they lined the fence with corrugated iron so we couldn't see what they were doing.

Funny thing is, hosing against corugated iron is even more obvious.

[Aloysius]

It's a question of respect really - someone who has absolutely no respect for the rest of the folks around who are doing the right thing - in fact they are blatantly using the water that other people save - deserve no shelter or respect from neighbours.

Dob 'em in

[Gas Man]

i tried to get a response from local pollies using a letter to the editor once (named suburbs and threw down a challenge to get them to drive around at xpm and have a look at the green lawns). guess what, no response.

you could go the other way and scare them, send a letter to their address saying that their household was one of a few that was going to be targeted by council water enforcers in the following month, then watch them sweat.

we have a few dogs that bark in the area, (ours aren't bad - some are incessent, how can you sit inside and watch tv while your dog barks non-stop ), so we got the council by-laws, printed out a fair few copies with the barking section highlighted and put one in every letterbox in the area. guess what, people started shooshing wasn't a threat, just a reminder of what was law and expected when you become a responsible dog owner in the 'burbs.

or you could be really immature and turn their mains off :ph34r:

[Cody]

i agree with aloy/FMB/Santa - dob the selfish SOB in. forget the "un-Australianism" rubbish, climate change and drought is bigger than all of us of paramount importance. besides, he'll probably just get a warning. down here i heard noone has ever actually been fined for wasting water anyway. would be great to just be able to talk to him about it, but then who these days has the kind of relationship with their neighbour where you could do that and not worry about souring the relationship or retribution?

[50mxe20]

What gets up my goat even worse is all the preaching about water wastage and then you drive by a park and see the local council drowning the park (while it's raining). Geez.

[Steve C]

Just make sure they don't have bores.

In WA there is no restriction on household bore use.

Always pays to check first...

Assumptions can lead to much egg on the face of the assumptee.

I had some coal I had stored in a coal bunker next to my garage (when I owned a house with cast iron open fire grates), and an elderly lady neighbour who looked over the gates in front of the garage, decided the coal was unsightly and inappropriate in a tourist area - so she complained to Council... They didn't check the facts, and sent two workmen to remove the offending coal.

When I realised what was happening, I took the employees names - rang the police in front of them, and requested they be charged with larceny.

Things turned around in a real hurry once the City Engineer realised he would be the one to ultimately wear the larceny charge. I truly enjoyed seeing the bastard squirm as he checked my property boundaries and where the coal was stored and how far his council lackeys had to enter my land to start shovelling it up. The last I heard of the old lady; her complaints fell from that day onwards upon deaf ears.

If you really feel morally justified in 'dobbing' some one in - just make sure you give them the courtesy that you would expect to be shown towards yourself by any intending 'dobber'.

[Aloysius]

i agree with aloy/FMB/Santa - dob the selfish SOB in. forget the "un-Australianism" rubbish, climate change and drought is bigger than all of us of paramount importance. besides, he'll probably just get a warning. down here i heard noone has ever actually been fined for wasting water anyway. would be great to just be able to talk to him about it, but then who these days has the kind of relationship with their neighbour where you could do that and not worry about souring the relationship or retribution?

Now that you have let the genie out of the bottle - is it about time "Australian" and "unAustralian" appellations to our most favourite, least favourite behaviours were given the elbow?

As for relationships with neighbours - clearly if some SOB is showing absolutely no respect to their neighbours by ripping off a scarce resource - the relationship is at best one sided and at worst no relationship whatsoever.

Gotta say I have great neighbours and there is no issue in this regard

[mello yello]

Shoot them...and ask questions later

I read somwhere....(more than once) that the greatest water wasters were from the more affluent suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne..

...spoilt rich twats who value themselves more than anything else

....do us all a favour and just shoot em

[Aloysius]

Shoot them...and ask questions later

I read somwhere....(more than once) that the greatest water wasters were from the more affluent suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne..

...spoilt rich twats who value themselves more than anything else

....do us all a favour and just shoot em

I reckon dobbing them in would be quite sufficient Mello

[mello yello]

I reckon dobbing them in would be quite sufficient Mello

..then can we shoot them

[stahc]

..then can we shoot them

shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot

come on mel ..............start a poll.......................woo hoo.purple shotgun

[Cooksta59]

shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot

come on mel ..............start a poll.......................woo hoo.purple shotgun

I thought mello's shoot em posts had a habit of disappearing off the forum.. in a haze of purple buckshot no doubt. :ph34r:

[mello yello]

I thought mello's shoot em posts had a habit of disappearing off the forum.. in a haze of purple buckshot no doubt. :ph34r:

There was just the one I think that got deleted.....obviously someone dobbed

[bellotv]

Good god people

Are we not a community of Human beings ?.

In a community we communicate to each other .Face to face.Not hide behind our fences and walls in isolation.

Perhaps living in a small town has made me aware that others around me are humans too.Not just countless faces .

Talk to your nieghbour .Ask them about their green grass.Thats Australian.Thats a human thing to do.Share your ideas with them.

Hay ,they may even be intersted.

You may be supprised.maybe they have installed a water tank.

[Steve C]

Good god people

Are we not a community of Human beings ?.

In a community we communicate to each other .Face to face.Not hide behind our fences and walls in isolation.

Perhaps living in a small town has made me aware that others around me are humans too.Not just countless faces .

Talk to your nieghbour .Ask them about their green grass.Thats Australian.Thats a human thing to do.Share your ideas with them.

Hay ,they may even be intersted.

You may be supprised.maybe they have installed a water tank.

Maybe they're worshippers of Satan, who should be dobbed in to the inquisitors...

Or maybe even terrorists - and it's our duty; according to the Federal Government's advertisements and brochures, to dob them in.

It won't matter if a few innocents get caught up in the dob-in frenzy, because the example their fate sets will be a marvelous detterent to any other individual who may 'wander from the true path'... and if they won't confess to their wickedness, a little 'gentle persuasion' should extract an appropriate confession from them.

We're citizens - not police, judge or executioner. We hope to be given the benefit of the presumption of innocence up until the point where the evidence proves beyond all doubt that it is otherwise. If the Government can't afford the officers to investigate and enforce laws through any other means than having citizens dob on citizens, it is derelict in it's duty and simply trying to 'pass the buck'.

Next excuse we'll hear out of some over-paid yet singularly incompotent politician will be "the measures would have been more effective if the 'public' had supported them more fully by passing on valuable information that could have led to more arrests and convictions'.

It's the "we could have won if the team had shown more support for the prima-donna self professed star of the team" syndrome. Every tosser I've ever known uses it, and it's becoming ever more prevalent in our current society.

The biggest irony to come from societies of the past, where dobbing has been an endorsed means of 'weeding out the rotten elements', is that many if not all of the instigators of 'healthy informing' got caught up in the system they set in motion. I guess some people just end up getting what they deserve.

[Austen]

We've got really green lawns, probably the greenest in our street, but that's good luck as much as anything.......

Until the rains of the last few days, we've had two days rain in Adelaide over the last three months..... I watched them both come on the weather radar, and just before they hit fertilised the lawns. The second rain was on a Sunday arvo, so that night we could also have the sprinklers on to water it in.

That's all it took to really green up the lawns.

But back to dobbing in........For some reason I'd dob in someone ripping of Center-Link as quick as look at them, but running their sprinklers, I've got a bit of sympathy for that.

IMHO, In a lot of ways the government is to blame for our lack of water, and I have a solution..........

Starfish Hill Wind Farm...............

The $65 million, 34.5 megawatt (MW) wind farm near Cape Jervis on the Fleurieu Peninsula is South Australia’s first wind farm.

Starfish Hill Wind Farm provides enough energy to meet the needs of about 18,000 households, representing 2% of South Australia’s residential customers, and will add 1% to the available generation capacity in South Australia.

*Gets calculator out* Ummmm add the denominator, triangulate ∑, raise to the power ∆, hypotenuse ∏ and √ a sixteen-digit prime number, take away the number you first thought of.......

That's just got to be enough power to run a really, really big desalination plant.......

Now, here's the smart bit........ The population of South Australia is around 1.5 million people.

That means each and every person in South Australia has to chip in $43 to build a wind-farm, say $1 / week for a year.

Now, for the two years after that, continue to chip in the $1 / week, and there's an extra $130 million, Shirley that's got to be enough to buy a decent de-salination plant ??

OK, Now here's the *really* smart part...........

The wind-farm and de-sal plant is PAID FOR. It's "ours". Free electricity to make free water. (OK, very small running costs for the wind farm, and minor running costs to buy new membranes for the de-sal plant, but you get the idea, basically "free").

There is no "cost" that the government needs to charge us to get their "return on investment" or any other fancy accounting terms, the infrastructure is owned by the people, and our "return on investment" is the free water.

Hang the expense, let's continue the $1 / person / week "tax" and each year build another wind-farm and get more free electricity !!!

Yeah, I know, it'll never happen !!!!!

Austen.

[Aloysius]

There seems to be some confusion here between dobbing and find guilty and punishing.

This is the same as any other law breaker being dobbed in - they get their day in court - This is called the rule of law this is why we have courts and lawyers and etc

Why shelter some SOB that hides behind a tin fence or waits till midnite to water and stuff the rest.

As for facing up - I'm sure if you really know the people that can be done without fear however one can imagine very many folks in this self centred time who may well respond in totally inappropriate ways.

[Austen]

There seems to be some confusion here between dobbing and find guilty and punishing.

This is the same as any other law breaker being dobbed in - they get their day in court....

In this particular thread the OP said ................

......there are two households in my area who continue to use sprinklers............they continue to use sprinklers.....

So, for the purposes of this particular discussion, we've no reason to doubt that aztec has actually seen the people use their sprinklers, and he was just asking, should (we) dob them in for doing so...............

Austen.

[Skid_MacMarx]

has anyone thought that these people are actually using rain water tanks or bore water....

I have friends in Sydney who have rainwater tanks at the back of the property (out of sight), and unlike most of the street, their gardens and lawns are quite lush..

I noticed in their situation they have a small sign/sticker near the leterbox stating they use rainwater...

maybe some should take a closer look before becoming known as the local "whistleblower"

personally, we have no restrictions but I never water the lawns... and I have planted "natives"...

Im glad to see the end of the rain.. 4 days of it got a bit tedious.

As for "dobbing" in and "whistleblowing' being "unAustralian"... I think it depends on the "seriousness" of the crime... and it really depends on the circumstances..

in this case, i would personally confront the neighbour and ask if they are using rainwater tanks or bore water if i didn't see the sign

[FMB]

Good god people

Are we not a community of Human beings ?.

In a community we communicate to each other .Face to face.Not hide behind our fences and walls in isolation.

Perhaps living in a small town has made me aware that others around me are humans too.Not just countless faces .

Talk to your nieghbour .Ask them about their green grass.Thats Australian.Thats a human thing to do.Share your ideas with them.

Hay ,they may even be intersted.

You may be supprised.maybe they have installed a water tank.

I just wish my neighbour was human. I could tell you any number of horror stories about our neighbour and his activities (many of them illegal) over the past 27 years we have lived next to him. Only last night, we heard something which is truly unbelievable and is apparently going to lead to his arrest in the next few days (the words animal cruelty and RSPCA were mentioned).

His problem is that he believes he rules the street and no-one is allowed to do anything he doesn't approve of. The guy is in his 70's. We've had a bottle of champagne in the fridge for years now waiting for him to finally croak.

I agree wholeheartedly with bellotv about being neighbourly etc. but sometimes circumstances and attitudes make that near impossible.