k1w1 Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 I live in Brisbane and would like to have my HTPC handle DTV, DVD, Music and Sat TV. Due to the encoding system Foxtel use I will not be able to have Sat TV running out of the HTPC. Is there any way i can start an account with Austar from Brisbane? TIA k1w1
chatham Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 AUSTAR does not have a licence for you to receive its broadcasts into Bne, I've tried the same here in Sydney and got nowhere. If you have a friend in a "rural/regional" area (or even the Gold Coast) that can receive AUSTAR, get them to have it installed and then relocate the STB and card to Bne. If you get a friend to do so, get two or three of four STBs installed and split the cost amongst your friends and acquaintances, against the AUSTAR T&Cs of course but I suspect it's a reason for the continually-increasing subscriber numbers John Porter spruiks. Be warned though, the current issue card has a more recent Irdeto encryption onboard, it may be that in some time in the near future, over-the-air upgrades to that encryption may render the card useless in anything other than a provider box. Good luck.
rolly73 Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 AUSTAR does not have a licence for you to receive its broadcasts into Bne, I've tried the same here in Sydney and got nowhere.If you have a friend in a "rural/regional" area (or even the Gold Coast) that can receive AUSTAR, get them to have it installed and then relocate the STB and card to Bne. If you get a friend to do so, get two or three of four STBs installed and split the cost amongst your friends and acquaintances, against the AUSTAR T&Cs of course but I suspect it's a reason for the continually-increasing subscriber numbers John Porter spruiks. Be warned though, the current issue card has a more recent Irdeto encryption onboard, it may be that in some time in the near future, over-the-air upgrades to that encryption may render the card useless in anything other than a provider box. Good luck. What you are suggesting is piracy pure and simple...amusing really, as posters on this forum are so quick to crucify any of the providers on their service levels, picture quality etc....but every box sharer that is out there is ultimately costing the providers money....can they afford it? Probably… is it reducing profit? Definitely, as instead of "two or three of four" customers paying full cost (As I do) you have one account that is worth an extra $20, $40 or $60 per month. Never forget that it is theft, and something they take a stern view of. As would any business that is having it's profits milked. Oh and btw When John Porter (Or Kim Williams) talks about sub numbers that is individual accounts not how many decoders are in the marketplace.
tomohawk Posted April 26, 2007 Posted April 26, 2007 What you are suggesting is piracy pure and simple...amusing really, as posters on this forum are so quick to crucify any of the providers on their service levels, picture quality etc....but every box sharer that is out there is ultimately costing the providers money....can they afford it? Probably… is it reducing profit? Definitely, as instead of "two or three of four" customers paying full cost (As I do) you have one account that is worth an extra $20, $40 or $60 per month. Never forget that it is theft, and something they take a stern view of. As would any business that is having it's profits milked.Oh and btw When John Porter (Or Kim Williams) talks about sub numbers that is individual accounts not how many decoders are in the marketplace. I do not believe it is illegal, but it is very much against T&Cs. Also, as previously said, there's nothing saying that Austar won't change their encryption scheme to, like Foxtel, lock it totally to the provider issued boxes.
ozbrit Posted April 26, 2007 Posted April 26, 2007 What you are suggesting is piracy pure and simple...amusing really, as posters on this forum are so quick to crucify any of the providers on their service levels, picture quality etc....but every box sharer that is out there is ultimately costing the providers money....can they afford it? Probably… is it reducing profit? Definitely, as instead of "two or three of four" customers paying full cost (As I do) you have one account that is worth an extra $20, $40 or $60 per month. Never forget that it is theft, and something they take a stern view of. As would any business that is having it's profits milked.Oh and btw When John Porter (Or Kim Williams) talks about sub numbers that is individual accounts not how many decoders are in the marketplace. You assume that all of the individuals sharing the service would actually be bona-fide customers. In the old gold card days, I knew of a number of people who had these cards to view more channels than they were honestly paying for and when the cards were rendered useless then stayed on the package they always had. I knew of another household who were using old equipment already existing at their rental but since Jan 2004 haven't bothered with paytv saying the basic package of news channels and TV shopping is a waste of money and they're not paying 1200 bucks a year to get a decent service. In all these cases Austar saved nothing. In fact, being a bit of a glutton for statistics I didn't see any real increase in subscriber numbers that could be attributed to the curtailing of piracy when the new irdeto came in. I can understand Austar hates piracy but they also deluded themselves over the amount of revenue they were actually losing from it.
whispa1970 Posted April 26, 2007 Posted April 26, 2007 I do not believe it is illegal, but it is very much against T&Cs. Also, as previously said, there's nothing saying that Austar won't change their encryption scheme to, like Foxtel, lock it totally to the provider issued boxes. That already happens with Austar boxes. The cards only work in the decoders that they come with, you cant swap cards between Austar boxes, dont know about 3rd party decoders. There is talk of better encryption for Austar coming, or an upgrade I should say, and not the same as Foxtels.
kozo_san Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 In all these cases Austar saved nothing. In fact, being a bit of a glutton for statistics I didn't see any real increase in subscriber numbers that could be attributed to the curtailing of piracy when the new irdeto came in. I can understand Austar hates piracy but they also deluded themselves over the amount of revenue they were actually losing from it. Ozbits, It is not always about generating further revenue. In most cases the type of person who pirates Austar/Foxtel would probably not pay for a subscription if they could not pirate it anyway. So most times it becomes a case of throwing good money after bad. At least that is how it initially appears when you look upon the surface but there is the other side to consider. Austar and Foxtel have to comit to ensuring that their suppliers content is protected. The movie houses are very picky about there content being protected and if the broadcasters did not make enough effort to protect it there would probably be legal rammifications and hence cost Austar/Foxtel in the long run. So enforcing stricter encryption is not just about turning pirates into paying customers, but also to be seen as being part of the solution to the content providers and not part of the problem.
whispa1970 Posted April 28, 2007 Posted April 28, 2007 Hi there, tehy are Correct, you cannot get Austar in a Foxtel Area, but in saying this there are 2 ways around it 1. If you know someone that live on a island, you can get a Self Install setup sent to you, (on the island) and then set it up inn city, OR 2. if you know someone that lives in a Austar area and has no intentions of getting austar on you can do it that way aswell by then just moving the box, but please bare in mind, Both these ways are a little dodgy, but there is nothing stopping you, the only other thig is that the tech and austar will only maintain the address were the service is installed unless it is on the island then it is all upto you, if for some reason that your service becomes faulty they will not send a tech to were you live and you will need to fix, and maintain your connection... Kind Regards Mark Tech goes out to Phillip Island?
whispa1970 Posted April 29, 2007 Posted April 29, 2007 Yes they would.. as it has a road, i am meaning like King Fisher Island, kangroo island Tech goes to Tasmania, no Road to there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yell@Me (formerly AUSTAR) Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 ture but there is alot of people that live there so there would be stationary techs there... but there wouldnt be any on king fischer island Due to the population, there is a few stationary techs in Tassie. Mark is right on the KFI thing - they boat/fly over.
happychappy Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 Hi there, tehy are Correct, you cannot get Austar in a Foxtel Area, but in saying this there are 2 ways around it 1. If you know someone that live on a island, you can get a Self Install setup sent to you, (on the island) and then set it up inn city, OR 2. if you know someone that lives in a Austar area and has no intentions of getting austar on you can do it that way aswell by then just moving the box, but please bare in mind, Both these ways are a little dodgy, but there is nothing stopping you, the only other thig is that the tech and austar will only maintain the address were the service is installed unless it is on the island then it is all upto you, if for some reason that your service becomes faulty they will not send a tech to were you live and you will need to fix, and maintain your connection... Kind Regards Mark I'm surprised Austar representatives would gladly explain how to rip off their own company?? Glad yo don't work for me!
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