momaw Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Wouldn't you if you were Sony? Logical running a business you want to keep your costs down as much as possible and make the most money. If that means creating a whole new format and having royalties paid to me, then so be it. It's capitalism baby! and a very good reason not to buy the product. Product designed to the bottom line verses a product made for the markets needs/wants. It like what they say in the military "Remember your weapon that you depend on for your life was made by the lowest bidder". Sony's desire to be king has led to an unfinished overpriced product being foisted on the public and then they have used the PS3 as a vehicle to dupe consumers into this format. Sure it has potential, but not until they finish it and in the meantime HD DVD kicks it's butt up and down the street in terms of features, functionality and price and despite Blu-rays apparent superiority gives just as good picture and audio (and in some cases better). Attach rates just go to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that even blu-ray owners are less than impressed than their HD DVD counterparts despite the supposed "content advantage". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussla Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Well then you would think they wouldve learned their lesson from past experience!If memory serves me correct Sony make a s**tload of cash from face moisteuriser sales in Japan. Maybe they should stick to what theyre good at!!! Has one thought Sony has been waiting and waiting, simmering over their defeat waiting for the right time to strike back........ Germany tried in WW2, this is World Format War II It's almost the basis for a black comedy about two best friends whom eventually form competitng electronics companies whom engage a format war, which ends up becoming a real war where each company funds various empoverished African nations to fight a proxy war, this eventually spills into a major conflict, the last scene of the movie the two former best friends stand in the burnt out ruins of the white house and ask "so who won?" fade to black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrology Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Has one thought Sony has been waiting and waiting, simmering over their defeat waiting for the right time to strike back........ The word above was missing an "s" at the end. Youre forgetting the other Sony failures apart from Beta, such as MD, Mavica with floppy, Rootkit to name a few. Im sure Im forgetting others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeF1503559517 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 "Mini-Disc (1991)--custom disc format, and used ATRAC audio compression, which is proprietary. Sony Dynamic Digital Sound (1993)--a competitor to the Dolby Digital 5.1 standard. Multi-Media Compact Disc (1994)--Sony's proprietary format for high-density optical storage, developed in conjunction with Phillips. Negotiations merged this format and Toshiba's Super Density disc format into what would become DVD. Music Clip (1999)--Sony's first digital player, used ATRAC audio compression. HiFD (1998)--a competitor to Iomega's Zip drive. Memory Stick (1998)--proprietary memory device as a competitor to SD and Flash memory. Super Audio CD (1999)--an optical disc format with higher fidelity than the CD. PSP (2004)--Uses Universal Media Disc (UMD) media, a proprietary media format." Sorry couldnt help myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c912039 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 ...this is World Format War II It's almost the basis for a black comedy about two best friends whom eventually form competitng electronics companies whom engage a format war, which ends up becoming a real war where each company funds various empoverished African nations to fight a proxy war, this eventually spills into a major conflict, the last scene of the movie the two former best friends stand in the burnt out ruins of the white house and ask "so who won?" fade to black. this movie, coming direct to DVD (and Blu-Ray only) 2008 Sony Pictures :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussla Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 The word above was missing an "s" at the end.Youre forgetting the other Sony failures apart from Beta, such as MD, Mavica with floppy, Rootkit to name a few. Im sure Im forgetting others. Lol, yer I meant defeat in relation to VHS / Betamax : ie World Format War I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussla Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 and a very good reason not to buy the product. Product designed to the bottom line verses a product made for the markets needs/wants.It like what they say in the military "Remember your weapon that you depend on for your life was made by the lowest bidder". Sony's desire to be king has led to an unfinished overpriced product being foisted on the public and then they have used the PS3 as a vehicle to dupe consumers into this format. Sure it has potential, but not until they finish it and in the meantime HD DVD kicks it's butt up and down the street in terms of features, functionality and price and despite Blu-rays apparent superiority gives just as good picture and audio (and in some cases better). Attach rates just go to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that even blu-ray owners are less than impressed than their HD DVD counterparts despite the supposed "content advantage". = As i've said before, I dont really give a **** who wins anymore, as long as SOMEBODY comes out as a clear winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussla Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 this movie, coming direct to DVD (and Blu-Ray only) 2008 Sony Pictures :ph34r: I thought it up the other week actually, make an interesting, sick and funny story. Anyone want to help me write a script? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momaw Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 =As i've said before, I dont really give a **** who wins anymore, as long as SOMEBODY comes out as a clear winner! Then why are you so desperately backing the tosser option? Disclaimer 1: No offence to BD defenders who are not tossers. the 5 of you know who you are Disclaimer 2: HJ is not one of the 5 Disclaimer 3: The 5 are not Cylons either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussla Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Then why are you so desperately backing the tosser option?Disclaimer 1: No offence to BD defenders who are not tossers. the 5 of you know who you are Disclaimer 2: HJ is not one of the 5 Disclaimer 3: The 5 are not Cylons either So are you saying that the Colonials are HD-DVD? and the Cylons are Blu-Ray? Makes sense, the Colonials (VHS) beat the superior Cylons (Betamax) 40 years ago, then the Cylons return evolved now they are Blu-ray and almost annihilate the Colonials (Now evolved to HD-DVD) now the Colonials/HD-DVD are on the run from the Cylon/Blu-Ray menace. I see the analogies, the Colonials are the underdogs much like HD-DVD on the run from a Superior and Powerful Sony/Cylons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momaw Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 So are you saying that the Colonials are HD-DVD? and the Cylons are Blu-Ray? Makes sense, the Colonials (VHS) beat the superior Cylons (Betamax) 40 years ago, then the Cylons return evolved now they are Blu-ray and almost annihilate the Colonials (Now evolved to HD-DVD) now the Colonials/HD-DVD are on the run from the Cylon/Blu-Ray menace. I see the analogies, the Colonials are the underdogs much like HD-DVD on the run from a Superior and Powerful Sony/Cylons. um, no, but if you wanna run with that analogy, the cylons seem more flawed than their human counterparts whose only purpose seems to chase down the last humans but even they don't understand why. They have no real sense of purpose and that is why ultimately they will lose. But figure wise it adds up, despite being the underdogs and trailing behind the enemies numerical number/advantage, the colonials (like HD DVD) manage to stay in the game surprising everyone with there staying power and strength. Oh, and those guys are not members of the final five. Cylon's wouldn't know the words to "All along the watchtower" (brilliant rendition BTW). They are linked to something else. Anyone reading this, other than Chris, not completely confused by this post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrology Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 So are you saying that the Colonials are HD-DVD? and the Cylons are Blu-Ray? Makes sense, the Colonials (VHS) beat the superior Cylons (Betamax) 40 years ago, then the Cylons return evolved now they are Blu-ray and almost annihilate the Colonials (Now evolved to HD-DVD) now the Colonials/HD-DVD are on the run from the Cylon/Blu-Ray menace. I see the analogies, the Colonials are the underdogs much like HD-DVD on the run from a Superior and Powerful Sony/Cylons. Using that analogy, its obvious who wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussla Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 um, no, but if you wanna run with that analogy, the cylons seem more flawed than their human counterparts whose only purpose seems to chase down the last humans but even they don't understand why. They have no real sense of purpose and that is why ultimately they will lose.But figure wise it adds up, despite being the underdogs and trailing behind the enemies numerical number/advantage, the colonials (like HD DVD) manage to stay in the game surprising everyone with there staying power and strength. Oh, and those guys are not members of the final five. Cylon's wouldn't know the words to "All along the watchtower" (brilliant rendition BTW). They are linked to something else. Anyone reading this, other than Chris, not completely confused by this post? Brilliant finale, im pissed I read the spoilers before it aired!!!! But yes the humans on the show are just as messed up, Adama has skeletons in the Closet, Kara thrace is messed up although reborn in the end, Tigh is an alcaholic, Apollo cant keep a marriage together, The president is terminally ill, Baltar is a sociopath, Helo is a wimp, Sharon is a cylon, Cally in a lippy ****, Dee is a sook, the Galactica is pretty banged up. The cylons on the other hand are the superior but clueless violent children of humanity without a purpose and their capital ships seem to lack point defences....and worse 6 of them dont even know who the other 5 are? 1 does and now she's in box land. ALl Along the watchtower, now read up some interpretations of the song, some people reckon its to do with Jesus or something, either way the producers purposely picked that song for an important reason which will be revealed in season 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeF1503559517 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 sorry for starting this pointless arguement. Its clear who Chris is barricking for, that being said, it is then easy to understand his post momaw I didnt like the "Superior" comment though. On what basis btw, besides holding more (atm) data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momaw Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Yeah "superior" bah! They claim it on the basis of apparent higher bandwidth specifications hence more potential channels of higher than HD DVD quality audio for one thing. Problem is the specs for movies on both formats are identical so studios will probably never encode to such high bandwidths in this generation of optical media. Don't be sorry. Unless you hadn't gathered Chris and I are just waxing lyrical. No real argument going on here. We'd need some of the nutters for that he he. "All Along the Watchtower" is apparently a conversation between God and the Devil at the end of the apocalypse told in reverse. But whatever the meaning, and whether or not that meaning is relevant, but given the other undertones of the show I am sure it is, it is a brilliant song. I loved U2's version, but now I think I have a new favourite. Pity the show doesn't return til Jan 2008, but at least we have the movie of the Pegusus's escape in between to tide us over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussla Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 sorry for starting this pointless arguement.Its clear who Chris is barricking for, that being said, it is then easy to understand his post momaw I didnt like the "Superior" comment though. On what basis btw, besides holding more (atm) data? Actually to quote Gauis Baltar in the BSG Miniseries "I'm not on anybody's side!" I'm just interested in backing the winning horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussla Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Yeah "superior" bah!They claim it on the basis of apparent higher bandwidth specifications hence more potential channels of higher than HD DVD quality audio for one thing. Problem is the specs for movies on both formats are identical so studios will probably never encode to such high bandwidths in this generation of optical media. Don't be sorry. Unless you hadn't gathered Chris and I are just waxing lyrical. No real argument going on here. We'd need some of the nutters for that he he. "All Along the Watchtower" is apparently a conversation between God and the Devil at the end of the apocalypse told in reverse. But whatever the meaning, and whether or not that meaning is relevant, but given the other undertones of the show I am sure it is, it is a brilliant song. I loved U2's version, but now I think I have a new favourite. Pity the show doesn't return til Jan 2008, but at least we have the movie of the Pegusus's escape in between to tide us over. Well universal have apparenly announced BSG on HD-DVD but that was in 2006! September is the release date for Season 3 on DVD in europe. All I know from what I read is that All ALong the Watchtower is very relevant and was chosen very specifically by Ronald D Moore himself, the U2 version is good I was playing in the car on the way to melbourne today. The pegasus movie will be interesting especially since it will tie into Season 4 but will be a prequel to Season 2 even. Im excited!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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