Best Settings For Sony Sxrd 70" - Owen's Settings?

[ozgal]

Hi,

I'm wanting to check out Owen's settings for the 70" sxrd. I know I've seen reference to them somewhere here, but where? When I try the search feature it comes up with so many search results and then each result has so many individual posts. Am I missing something here? Is there an easy way to locate specific search string, i.e. sxrd 70"settings by Owen (or, say, Owen's settings for sxrd 70").

Or maybe someone can put me out of my misery and give me a post number in a particular thread so I can locate it even easier.

We are wanting to fine tune our 70" for best viewing via Foxtel, as well as when viewing HD via HD FTA channels (can only get 9, 7 and maybe ABC at this point - think we need new digital high gain antenna).

Hope you can help.

Cheers,

ozgal

[davep]

His signature at the end of every one of his posts links to two (2) of his own posts on how he sets up his unit.

[bjanssen]

Here are some snippets from my notes that I took while reading the big thread

Owen:

Iris auto 2 (Personal preference with this setting, so use what you like)

Contrast (Picture) normally 80 to 90 depending on source (100 can be used with a HTPC but only if custom colour temp settings are used)

Using unnecessarily low setting will restrict the native contrast ratio of the display, so use lamp and iris settings to control light output not Picture.

Brightness 53 (you need to calibrate this to your source to set black level)

Colour 41 (again this can vary a little depending on source)

Color Temp Warm 2 (This is closest to correct 6500k colour temperature but is still not 100% right)

Sharpness 25 ( as far as I can go before visible oversharpening occurs on a test pattern)

Noise Reduction Low (definitely NOT BNR)

DRC Mode (I cant use it with a HTPC at 1080p so you make a choice. Try all modes including Off) (mode 1?)

DRC Palette (If you use DRC I recommend a very high setting for Clarity (80-100) to clean up poor source. Set Reality to taste (30)

Black Corrector off

Gamma off

Clear White off

Live Color off

White Balance (I use Custom settings to get correct colour temp)

Detail Enhancer Max. Yes MAXIMUM

Edge Enhancer off

Lamp mode Use what you like (Auto mode looks like it will alter the lamp mode depending on ambient lighting, which is useful)

service menu: http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtop...mp;#entry570716

Convergence software test: http://www.idk-tech.com/products/techpcvg.html

Owen2:

If anyone wants to test my custom settings, here you go.

When Picture goes over about 90 on my setup a red shift results, the White Balance adjustments are to compensate.

This max Picture setting along with auto iris wrings every last bit of contrast ratio out of the display and gives more punch to the image.

Picture=100

Colour Temp = Warm 2

White Balance

RGain -8

GGain -4

BGain 0

RBias -1

GBias 0

BBias 0

Iris= Auto 2 or Auto 1 if you want real kick.

This works with my HTPC with 8800 video drivers settings at default.

I have no idea how it will work with any other sources or different displays.

My lamp is also run in.

I have adjusted the iris setting in the service menu for better blacks, and this also reduces overall picture brightness, so your picture will be brighter then mine.

Owen3:

Actually Warm 2 without the 100 Picture setting is too cold (not enough RGain) at white end and a little too much red in the black or shadow end (RBias), so if red looks too saturated you probably have colour up to high. (50 is to high).

All the other predifined settings like Warm 1 and Neutral etc are much too cold.

Two things happen when 100% Contrast (Picture) is uses, first the picture goes to red at the white end (white looks pink). The second is the gamma curve seems to drop, although I have not done a gamma calibration run to confirm that, however I find gamma normally a bit high with Picture set to 80-90.

The effect of the lower gamma is a more punchy image, especially if Iris is set to Auto 1

So my White Balance settings are ONLY appropriate if Picture is set to 100. They will be way, way off if you use 80-90, at least if your display is anything like mine.

[ozgal]

His signature at the end of every one of his posts links to two (2) of his own posts on how he sets up his unit.

Thanks Davep,

Will check that out.

Cheers,

ozgal

[ozgal]

Thanks also, Bjanssen - much obliged.

Cheers,

ozgal

[Autobot]

We are wanting to fine tune our 70" for best viewing via Foxtel, as well as when viewing HD via HD FTA channels (can only get 9, 7 and maybe ABC at this point - think we need new digital high gain antenna).

ozgal

Hi..

A definete must for people with Foxtel if they do not already have one is the Scart to Component cable. You can get an actual Foxtel one for $59.95 however you can get one similar from Jaycar for $39.95 (Jaycar Part # WQ7255) .. Or even cheaper from ebay etc. Makes a noticable difference for sure.. Dont forget to change the foxtel picture settings to YUV before you plug the component cable in.

In regards to the FTA am probably in the same boat as you in needing new antenna however was able move the Antenna Cable around a bit and do a rescan and it picked up the extra channels took about 20 minutes of fiddling. Im assuming you were able to get all channels before but since installing new tv you cannot ?

[Owen]

Different is just different, not necessarily better.

There will always be a difference between connection types, but if each input is correctly calibrated the differences are minimal to non existent between Component and Svideo with a low bandwidth source.

A standard Svideo cable should be plenty good enough for Foxtel - Austar.

If after calibration there is a noticeable deference between Svideo and Component, the STB or TV has a poor Svideo implementation.

[MikeAusDTV]

I have the 70" connected to the Foxtel box via SVHS and I am amazed how good it CAN look - e.g. graphics on ABC.

Of course Foxtel content is variable and some of the video quality is woeful - noisy, and fuzzy.

The Foxtel box is a Pace DC420NF

Mike

[ozgal]

Hi..

A definete must for people with Foxtel if they do not already have one is the Scart to Component cable. You can get an actual Foxtel one for $59.95 however you can get one similar from Jaycar for $39.95 (Jaycar Part # WQ7255) .. Or even cheaper from ebay etc. Makes a noticable difference for sure.. Dont forget to change the foxtel picture settings to YUV before you plug the component cable in.

In regards to the FTA am probably in the same boat as you in needing new antenna however was able move the Antenna Cable around a bit and do a rescan and it picked up the extra channels took about 20 minutes of fiddling. Im assuming you were able to get all channels before but since installing new tv you cannot ?

Hi Autobot,

We have the scart to component cable set up on the sxrd 70" TV. Thanks for the Jaycar and Ebay information though as I need one for the second TV in bedroom (currently set up with composite).

Regards the antenna - at one stage we only had FTA prior to having foxtel but I remember the PQ was pretty pathetic. I had an antenna person come out and I think they installed an amplifier, but the PQ was never fantastic, and was one of the reasons for getting Foxtel in the first place.

When our TV guy set up the sxrd 70" he did a scan for regular FTA and got all channels but they were totally fuzzy, snowy, etc. He was only able to get 7 and 9 HD channels. I rang him back to check this to make sure I had correct information for antenna people when I contact them. TV guy said he did get all HD channels (but none of us in the house can remember this happening). TV guy noticed our Sony HD STB lost audio signal when he installed it and said we should consider taking it back if it happened again (has not occurred since). When I rang to confirm which HD channels he had managed to scan he said he had tuned them all and that perhaps the STB could have dropped the signal. Can this happen?

We'll try your trick of playing with the antenna cable and see how we go. Husband said to hold off on the digital antenna for now - $$$.

Funny that I'm in the opposite boat to many here - I'm after HAF not WAF!!! LOL.

Cheers and thanks for your suggestions.

ozgal

[ozgal]

Different is just different, not necessarily better.

There will always be a difference between connection types, but if each input is correctly calibrated the differences are minimal to non existent between Component and Svideo with a low bandwidth source.

A standard Svideo cable should be plenty good enough for Foxtel - Austar.

If after calibration there is a noticeable deference between Svideo and Component, the STB or TV has a poor Svideo implementation.

Thanks Owen,

I know I will sound plenty ignorant with this question - but what exactly is callibration in layman's terms? Is it tuning the settings as per your other thread with setting options?

Thanks so much,

ozgal

[ozgal]

I have the 70" connected to the Foxtel box via SVHS and I am amazed how good it CAN look - e.g. graphics on ABC.

Of course Foxtel content is variable and some of the video quality is woeful - noisy, and fuzzy.

The Foxtel box is a Pace DC420NF

Mike

Hi Mike,

Good to hear you are happy with the Foxtel box via SVHS and how good it CAN look on some channels.

I'm pretty sure my second STB in the bedroom is same model PACE as yours. We've upgraded to IQ for the sxrd 70".

Cheers,

ozgal

[Owen]

Thanks Owen,

I know I will sound plenty ignorant with this question - but what exactly is callibration in layman's terms? Is it tuning the settings as per your other thread with setting options?

Thanks so much,

ozgal

Every individual source or connection type will require different settings for Brightbness, Colour and in some cases Contrast (Picture). That is why each input on the TV can have its own settings applied.

When comparing Svideo to Component connections from a Foxtel box for example, you must adjust these settings for each as they will be different.

Colour saturation in particular will be different between Svideo and Component, but once adjusted they should look the same.