Highjinx Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Here is some interesting news. AACS Tuesday, April 17, 2007 AACS Under Attack -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With AACS LA calling them attacks, the hacking attempts of the Advanced Access Content System copy protection of Blu-ray and HD DVD movie discs are continuing with great intense. Navigating across the Doom9's forums will immediately bring you in front of various posts with news about the ongoing attacks on the AACS copy protection of Blu-ray and HD DVD movie discs. The story began last year when members of the Doom9 forum posted a workaround for both HD DVD and Blu-ray that was supposed to capture the AACS title key on a movie disc by using a PC drive and a software HD player. The "hack" reportedly worked and it was the first successful attempt to decrypt premium video content stored on Blu-Ray and HD DVD media. The first AACS title keys, which communicate with the hardware encryption keys, appeared on the Web. In addition, some companies developed a special software that simplified decrypting title keys, such as the AnyHDDVD. Both Cyberlink (PowerDVD) and Corel (Intervideo WinDVD) where blamed for the security hole, that allowed enthusiasts to extract essential decrypting keys and use them for playback of the movies. AACS LA, the authority responsible for the AACS technology, confirmed the attacks last February. But the official reaction came in the beginning of this month, when AACS LA revoked the existing license keys for the affected players and introduced new keys. The new keys have been included in the new versions of the PC software players from CyberLink and Corel. Corel released the update some days ago and in fact described it as an essential update. Non-updated versions of the WinDVD software will not be able to play Blu-ray and HD DVD movie content. The situation should be the same for Cyberlink's PowerDVD software, although the company is expected to release an update later. AACS LA had initially scheduled the release of key updates every 18 months, and Cyberlink seems to follow this policy, at least for now. However, replacing the "hacked" keys does not provide any solution to piracy, since information on circumventing the newly released Corel InterVideo WinDVD update has been already appeared in the Doom9 forums. But using PC software players was just the beginning. A new workaround recently surfaced online with a Toshiba-built Xbox 360 HD DVD Player and the updated InterVideo WinDVD software. AACS LA spokesperson Michael Ayers says that the organization is aware of this latest breach and investigating. "There are two steps to looking at this," said Ayers in a statement with PC World. "One is the revocation, or the device key expiration. A hardware player uses what we call unique keys, and each player has its own set. You can revoke those keys without revoking the key sets for any other player. We provide a file that's incorporated on new movie discs and new devices that includes what we call revocation information. This file has information about what keys are disabled, and is what's used to disable those compromised keys in players that have been attacked. "When the consumer buys a disc that has this revocation information on it, it will disable the keys that have been targeted. So what we're looking for--as we and InterVideo have indicated--is that consumers update their player with new keys so there's no interruption in the playback of AACS-protected content." AACS also includes the so-called "host revocation" feature, which addresses the ability of a PC-based software player to play even the old titles. The goal, says Ayers, is that "the consumer will have updated the player before we get to that point, and they'll be able to play all of the new titles coming out and all of the old titles with no interruption." AACS could possibly proceed to revoke the keys for the Xbox 360 HD DVD player and other HD DVD-ROM and Blu-ray Disc burners already on the market. But such a move could be extremely dangerous for now, since it could arise serious complains from the early adopters of the Blu-Ray and HD DVD technologies. Some others could claim that by extending this "cat and dog" game between authorities and hackers for some period with the AACS LA to patch the ongoing security holes could accelerate the adoption of the new formats.
Hydrology Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Wont happen. If they did this there would be suits being filed left right and centre by early adoptors, complaining that AACS deliberately defeated a legitimately bought piece of hardware.
DrP Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 New firmware for the affected disc drives would be released. The new firmware would patch the issue and also install new device keys etc.
AndrewW Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Wont happen. If they did this there would be suits being filed left right and centre by early adoptors, complaining that AACS deliberately defeated a legitimately bought piece of hardware. I bet there are class action lawyers in the states just waiting for them to do this. I had a good look, and nowhere on my HD-A1, 360 addon or PS3 does it state that the AACS can revoke my hardware's ability to work on a whim. Bring it on I say, it will be the death of AACS (and possibly HD DVD and BD at the same time). Andrew.
Highjinx Posted April 18, 2007 Author Posted April 18, 2007 Excellent way to wind down releases on HD-DVD and move over to BluRay incorporating BD+
momaw Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Excellent way to wind down releases on HD-DVD and move over to BluRay incorporating BD+ but nothing currently has BD+ you sony corporate shill @sshole.
bigkid1503559500 Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Mo, Mo, too much tension ... don't let 'em rattle you. a
Highjinx Posted April 18, 2007 Author Posted April 18, 2007 but nothing currently has BD+ you sony corporate shill @sshole. Temper, control the temper, little man! BD+ is on the way.........big time!
ajm1503559545 Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 You have chosen to ignore all posts from: Highjinx. · View this post · Un-ignore Highjinx Operation Hydra is here and now .... Big time ! Looks like a SHILL Walks like a SHILL Talks like a SHILL Smells like a SHILL Trolls like a SHILL
c912039 Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Excellent way to wind down releases on HD-DVD and move over to BluRay incorporating BD+ Has this Highjinx thing got a 'mute' button? All I am hearing is white noise... (or should that be 'BLU noise' )
Highjinx Posted April 18, 2007 Author Posted April 18, 2007 You have chosen to ignore all posts from: Highjinx.· View this post · Un-ignore Highjinx Operation Hydra is here and now .... Big time ! Looks like a SHILL Walks like a SHILL Talks like a SHILL Smells like a SHILL Trolls like a SHILL AJM's a DILL!
AndrewW Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 BD+ is on the way.........big time! OK well I only unignored to respond because the post was already quoted ... All we ever here from you Mr Shill is "She'll be coming soon" and "just you wait" and "it's on the way". Are we ever actually going to see anything that you are predicting is "coming soon" ? Didn't think so. Andrew.
Gino Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 BD+ is on the way.........big time! I don't get it HJ... who cares? I didn't even care for AACS
Highjinx Posted April 18, 2007 Author Posted April 18, 2007 OK well I only unignored to respond because the post was already quoted ...All we ever here from you Mr Shill is "She'll be coming soon" and "just you wait" and "it's on the way". Are we ever actually going to see anything that you are predicting is "coming soon" ? Didn't think so. Andrew. You have a terrible memory!
Highjinx Posted April 18, 2007 Author Posted April 18, 2007 I don't get it HJ... who cares? I didn't even care for AACS Gino, what I was eluding to was that the content providers, naturally want to protect their creative property. Since AACS has been compromised big time, BD+ offers them some hope to protect their HD optical disk income stream. Thus there is a possiblilty that most if not all major studios would lean toward BR as their sole HD optical delivery method. With an obvious outcome. Of course this does not prevent HD-DVD developing something similar.
ajm1503559545 Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Has this Highjinx thing got a 'mute' button? Yup. You have chosen to ignore all posts from: Highjinx. · View this post · Un-ignore Highjinx This poor soul evangelizes then he vacilates. He is unwavering in his commitment yet steadfast in his inertia. He is obsessive about the object of his desire but unwilling to accept it into his possession. Those paying attention will see this thread as a transparent attempt to justify this individuals recent (in)decision not to buy the product he has done nothing but spew on about for months and months and months. His big words and big statements have all turned out to be as empty and as fake as his personna. Spuiking is not meaningful discussion and I don't think you need to be a genius to see who this person is not capable of discussion. Some of us are sitting back being gripped by the experience while, clearly, he is experienced in sitting back with a grip on himself. The ignore function was created for shills, trolls and tools like this one.
c912039 Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 ...Some of us are sitting back being gripped by the experience while, clearly, he is experienced in sitting back with a grip on himself. ... Classic... You crack me up..
AndrewW Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 His big words and big statements have all turned out to be as empty and as fake as his personna.Spuiking is not meaningful discussion and I don't think you need to be a genius to see who this person is not capable of discussion. I could not agree more. I really just can't see what sort of personality you would need to spend so much time, and be so devoted to a cause that you would constantly come here and spruik their wares without actually buying into the technology yourself. I really just don't get it, although Project Hydra might be a reasonable explanation ... Andrew.
Highjinx Posted April 18, 2007 Author Posted April 18, 2007 Yup.You have chosen to ignore all posts from: Highjinx. · View this post · Un-ignore Highjinx This poor soul evangelizes then he vacilates. He is unwavering in his commitment yet steadfast in his inertia. He is obsessive about the object of his desire but unwilling to accept it into his possession. Those paying attention will see this thread as a transparent attempt to justify this individuals recent (in)decision not to buy the product he has done nothing but spew on about for months and months and months. His big words and big statements have all turned out to be as empty and as fake as his personna. Spuiking is not meaningful discussion and I don't think you need to be a genius to see who this person is not capable of discussion. Some of us are sitting back being gripped by the experience while, clearly, he is experienced in sitting back with a grip on himself. The ignore function was created for shills, trolls and tools like this one. Perhaps Highjinx knows a whole lot more as to what is to come than you do...................! Go back and re-read my posts dating back to NOV-DEC 2005........the debates I have had with you and others, my BR/PS3 predictions........and prepair for a rude realization that you have very rarely been correct, unlike me! Pity your analytical skills are lacking severely unlike your linguistic ones.
Highjinx Posted April 18, 2007 Author Posted April 18, 2007 Maybe a name change is in order Hydra Jinx, and that may well be a keeper Highjinx.............Let the Woodies fly in formation quacking away, dropping their bills...money bills, that is and eventually fly into the Wide Blu Yonder.......it's inevitable!
Gino Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Gino, what I was eluding to was that the content providers, naturally want to protect their creative property. Since AACS has been compromised big time, BD+ offers them some hope to protect their HD optical disk income stream. Thus there is a possiblilty that most if not all major studios would lean toward BR as their sole HD optical delivery method. With an obvious outcome.Of course this does not prevent HD-DVD developing something similar. Nor does it stop hackers from targeting BD+
momaw Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Yawn. Someone needs to keep their hands out of their pants.
ajm1503559545 Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 It's kinda sad really. Even with the sham exposed as it is he still persits. Sad and a little pathetic. Even a dog can only take so much beating.
Highjinx Posted April 18, 2007 Author Posted April 18, 2007 One wonders whether you invented delusion, patented delusion or whether it may well be a work in progress.I would only suggest that to quote "money bills" at least those people have put their money where the mouth is, I believe we are still waiting to see what colour yours is..... oh, of course that would be blue and oh its fifty dollar notes it's from.... wait for it...... (drum rolls please) Monopoly Sony edition Perhaps I'm smarter than you........! I know when to spend my hard earned cash!
Highjinx Posted April 18, 2007 Author Posted April 18, 2007 Nor does it stop hackers from targeting BD+ No question..........some protection is better than none. Got a burglar alarm at home?...........won't stop theives breaking in, but heck they getaway with less!. BD+ is much more dynamic and robust than AACS. What would you do if you were a content provider and had to protect your content? Leave the archive vault open.....I'dont think so?
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