uhf 2 Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 Just wondering if anybody has one of these dvd players . A panasonic HDMI upscale [Model No: DVD-S52] with DTS decoder built in & 5.1 analoge out . $220 at good guys http://panasonic.com.au/products/details.cfm?objectID=3275 Cheers
taksan Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 No but I've seen one used and its nowhere near as good as the old Panasonic S-97 player was (which was a excellent player) Neither is it up to scratch in PQ with other models on the market currently. The Sony Dvpns-76H is cheaper and region free and is currently king of the upscaling DVD players at the moment. $170 should buy you one and its a bargain.
tomohawk Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 Hmm I may just have to pick up one of these Sony Dvpns-76H. I have an older, basic Sony 576i DVD player (can't remember the model number), but now that I have my Bravia, I wouldn't mind comparing to a progressive scan/HDMI upscaling player. I have been playing DVDs through my Mac Mini connected via RGB, but it doesn't seem to handle motion scenes well. I'm not sold on the deinterlacing, either.
kiwimeat Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 No but I've seen one used and its nowhere near as good as the old Panasonic S-97 player was (which was a excellent player)Neither is it up to scratch in PQ with other models on the market currently. The Sony Dvpns-76H is cheaper and region free and is currently king of the upscaling DVD players at the moment. $170 should buy you one and its a bargain. I think you meant to say that the DVPNS-76H is the "current king of the CHEAP upscaling DVD players". I've seen the S-97, and DVPNS-76H in operation and with certain content they did a good job of upscaling and improving the image presentation. However, it isn't/wasn't consistent for all movies. For instance, my Superbit edition of Leon the Professional did not look good at all upscaled on those players. Same with Saving Private Ryan (this was likely due to the deliberate grainy nature of the print). Also you need to factor in the scaler on your display device. It is highly likely that the scaler in your display does a better job that any scaler in a cheap playback device. Contrast that with the Denon 2930 with a HQV chip that I actually purchased and I just leave it on auto (upscales to 1080i). But to achieve the level of consistent handling of images I need to spend in the order of 7-8 times what it costs for a reasonable entry level player. It is likely not worth it for most. To be honest, just make sure you get a DVD player with progressive playback, and consider upscaling an optional extra.
Submariner1503559614 Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 No but I've seen one used and its nowhere near as good as the old Panasonic S-97 player was (which was a excellent player)Neither is it up to scratch in PQ with other models on the market currently. The Sony Dvpns-76H is cheaper and region free and is currently king of the upscaling DVD players at the moment. $170 should buy you one and its a bargain. Problem is that uhf 2 has an amp without Optical or Coaxial digital inputs. He needs a player with 5.1 analog out, and the Sony does not have that.
taksan Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 Problem is that uhf 2 has an amp without Optical or Coaxial digital inputs. He needs a player with 5.1 analog out, and the Sony does not have that. Geeze might be time to upgrade the amp
taksan Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 I think you meant to say that the DVPNS-76H is the "current king of the CHEAP upscaling DVD players".I've seen the S-97, and DVPNS-76H in operation and with certain content they did a good job of upscaling and improving the image presentation. However, it isn't/wasn't consistent for all movies. For instance, my Superbit edition of Leon the Professional did not look good at all upscaled on those players. Same with Saving Private Ryan (this was likely due to the deliberate grainy nature of the print). Also you need to factor in the scaler on your display device. It is highly likely that the scaler in your display does a better job that any scaler in a cheap playback device. Contrast that with the Denon 2930 with a HQV chip that I actually purchased and I just leave it on auto (upscales to 1080i). But to achieve the level of consistent handling of images I need to spend in the order of 7-8 times what it costs for a reasonable entry level player. It is likely not worth it for most. To be honest, just make sure you get a DVD player with progressive playback, and consider upscaling an optional extra. Both the S-97, and DVPNS-76H do a better job of scaling when in 1080i mode the the Panasonic 1080p bandwidth plasma chips which are arguably the best currently. The new Yamaha 1700B is my #1 DVD player and its only better then the Sony in sound quality. PQ wise the Sony is on a par and it costs 1/4 the price. These "cheap" DVD players are right up there PQ wise with players costing 5,6 even 10 times the price. Its sound quality thats the difference.
Struggo Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Both the S-97, and DVPNS-76H do a better job of scaling when in 1080i mode the the Panasonic 1080p bandwidth plasma chips which are arguably the best currently.The new Yamaha 1700B is my #1 DVD player and its only better then the Sony in sound quality. PQ wise the Sony is on a par and it costs 1/4 the price. These "cheap" DVD players are right up there PQ wise with players costing 5,6 even 10 times the price. Its sound quality thats the difference. I have the S97 teamed up with my Hitachi 8800 plasma running at 1080i. Great picture that would rival the Pana 1080p chipset PDP's.
Puddock Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 I need a DVD player to replace my tired $50 texlon ebay jobbie. (Which has been a better unit than the $700 overpriced Phillips pos it replaced) Looking at an upscaling Pana S53 mainly because I have a Pana 42pv60 TV. (Shared remote, HDMI, Viera link and all that) From what little I know the TV does a good job of upscaling so do I need an upscaling DVD player? If not, what should I be looking for in a DVD player? thanks, Puddock
Guest JimboTHX1138 Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 I need a DVD player to replace my tired $50 texlon ebay jobbie. (Which has been a better unit than the $700 overpriced Phillips pos it replaced)Looking at an upscaling Pana S53 mainly because I have a Pana 42pv60 TV. (Shared remote, HDMI, Viera link and all that) From what little I know the TV does a good job of upscaling so do I need an upscaling DVD player? If not, what should I be looking for in a DVD player? thanks, Puddock I have the same plasma, hope you don't mind me recommending the Sony DVPNS76H. http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=43213 http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtop...mp;#entry671435
benthx Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 I have the same plasma, hope you don't mind me recommending the Sony DVPNS76H.http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=43213 http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtop...mp;#entry671435 Love your avatar and sign in name mate!!! I am using the s97 with the hd1 JVC. The s97 is a much better machine in audio and video. If you are lucky you might finda few units floating around gathering dust on display. I paid 220.00 for mine DVD S97 Thanks Ben
Guest JimboTHX1138 Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 Love your avatar and sign in name mate!!! Cheers benthx. Ditto! I am using the s97 with the hd1 JVC. The s97 is a much better machine in audio and video. If you are lucky you might finda few units floating around gathering dust on display. I paid 220.00 for mine DVD S97 I have a s97 also, great machine, it's an excellent DVD player and well constructed. Great quality. However, the macroblocking was really bad on my Panasonic plasma along with with odd colour tints. Panasonic plasmas seem to be the worst for displaying these artifacts caused from the Faroudja chip with this combination. It's a pity because i would really like to be using it still. If i had a projector or even a different brand plasma i would be without a doubt. However the Sony doesn't fall far behind and works a treat with a panny plasma. Cheers.
benthx Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 Cheers benthx. Ditto!I have a s97 also, great machine, it's an excellent DVD player and well constructed. Great quality. However, the macroblocking was really bad on my Panasonic plasma along with with odd colour tints. Panasonic plasmas seem to be the worst for displaying these artifacts caused from the Faroudja chip with this combination. It's a pity because i would really like to be using it still. If i had a projector or even a different brand plasma i would be without a doubt. However the Sony doesn't fall far behind and works a treat with a panny plasma. Cheers. Yes I aggree, thats why I am letting the JVC HD1 do the upscaling and the s97 becomes a rock solid transport with good audio to boot. Thanks Ben
Puddock Posted May 22, 2007 Posted May 22, 2007 I have the same plasma, hope you don't mind me recommending the Sony DVPNS76H.http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=43213 http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtop...mp;#entry671435 Many thanks Jimbo, The Sony is now a prime contender!
MrSlow Posted May 28, 2007 Posted May 28, 2007 (edited) I have just bought the new Panasonic S53 DVD player with upscaling. I have also got a Panasonic 1024x768 42" plasma, and is wondering what setting should I set for my DVD player. Ie. Should I set it at 576i, 576p, 720p or 1080i? Initially I thought 720p is the best b/c it's progressive, but I'm not so sure anymore. I'm using HDMI to connect the DVD player to the plasma. Edited May 28, 2007 by MrSlow
Mousie Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Hi all, just picked up the last of the 52's for 125 dollars, ex display unit and gave a test run into a tw700 before giving over to the kids as was for the rumpus. Well, so far as menus and remotes, I've seen better but not critical given the differences these days. however I run both HDMI and Component and in both I find the DVD playback very grainy and cannot tell any change in the output settings for scalling, I would have thought at least some change but at the end of the day left at sd and let the pj do the scalling. Personally, after having the DH tv receiver to taste HD content (720p max on pj) I felt the panasonic was pretty ordinary. I originally went for the tevion 40 dollar unit for kids and gave this a test run on the pj, well what can you expect for 40 dollars. Colours were awful to say the least and the vertical line work in all DVD's would be enough to make you cry. At least the 52 is in the rumpus room. Funny thing is I have 6 year old Hyundai DVD player (with wait for it MP3 playback) and on component into the PJ, component only, pics are up there with the better units. go figure this. Regards
nexus7 Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Has anyone tried the Oppo 981 with a Samsung 40" 1080p LCD screen? The Sammy upscaling looks really great using my old steam driven Dick Smith $79 job. I leave old DS on 'interlaced' and let the Sammy convert it to progressive, because it does a better job. But maybe the Oppo would give a better picture? or maybe the Panny S-97 (anyone know where I can find one)?
mello yello Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Shouldnt this be in one of the general forums ( home theatre or HD DVD players?) I thought this Reviews section was for actual reviews somebody posts about a particular product general enquiries two floors up....mind your step
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