Eoi : Toshiba Hd-a1 Maybe For Sale

[kamma]

i am considering upgrading to the XE-1 so i am put the idea out there for a possible sale of my HD-A1. it is in perfect condition. i will include a stepdown transformer and a HD-DVD movie.

last week i upgraded to Firmware 2.1 and it works flawlessly.

i live in melbourne. local pick up only.

i am looking for $600

[kamma]

Let me guess...... Unforgiven

round of applause folks

[kamma]

looks like i'm not getting my xe1.

must be too dear

[Hydrology]

looks like i'm not getting my xe1.

must be too dear

The problem with AV gear nowadays is the fact that it depreciates too quickly. Most "buyers" want things for next to nothing secondhand, and as a "seller" its not worth selling for next to nothing anyways.

[jamiep]

looks like i'm not getting my xe1.

must be too dear

Cmon people ... this represents good value for money (including a $100 transformer that you can use for other OS purchases)..

I recently purchased one from another member, and am completely happy ... members on this forum (generally) really care and look after their gear etc, and are generally nice people to buy second hand gear off ... this is a bargain compared to what it would have cost him to get here, and is built like a tank! Firmware update done, just plug in and enjoy HD-DVD.

Jamie

[Spero D.]

The problem with AV gear nowadays is the fact that it depreciates too quickly. Most "buyers" want things for next to nothing secondhand, and as a "seller" its not worth selling for next to nothing anyways.

I know what you mean. Just sold my A1 for a lot less than I wanted. Oh well now onto the XE1 or maybe the Samsung BD-5000 (Dual HD-DVD & Blu-Ray Player).

[IanD1503559705]

looks like i'm not getting my xe1.

must be too dear

The recent sale of an HD-A1 on ebay in Australia for $325 really put a dent in the value. Any future purchasers will want the same deal. I was considering selling my player, but not if I can only get that little for it.

I understand an asian Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive recently sold for around $100: used values are just so low and it sets a precedent.

[pajames]

The recent sale of an HD-A1 on ebay in Australia for $325 really put a dent in the value.

That's right and so it should and this is why, the HD-A2 as of the 1st April was discounted another $100USD by Toshiba to $399USD RRP, so you can now pick one up for about $300-310USD brand new (without shipping of course) if you look hard enough, only problem though is finding a retailer who will ship internationally, Amazon are currently selling the A2 at $310USD with free shipping within the US, trouble is they don't ship them overseas. Most other retailers are still around the $350USD mark though, for e.g. BHPhoto do ship internationally and you could import the A2 for $349USD & $89USD shipping = $518AUD to your door.

I'm not being confrontational here but IMO that makes a second HD-A1 at $600AUD an expensive purchase, you could get one imported second hand off eBay for about half that.

Paul

[kamma]

That's right and so it should and this is why, the HD-A2 as of the 1st April was discounted another $100USD by Toshiba to $399USD RRP, so you can now pick one up for about $300-310USD brand new (without shipping of course) if you look hard enough, only problem though is finding a retailer who will ship internationally, Amazon are currently selling the A2 at $310USD with free shipping within the US, trouble is they don't ship them overseas. Most other retailers are still around the $350USD mark though, for e.g. BHPhoto do ship internationally and you could import the A2 for $349USD & $89USD shipping = $518AUD to your door.

I'm not being confrontational here but IMO that makes a second HD-A1 at $600AUD an expensive purchase, you could get one imported second hand off eBay for about half that.

Paul

the a2 doesn't have 5.1 analogue outs. The A1 does !

not everyone has a hdmi receiver which means without the 5.1 analogue inputs of the A1 they will not get dolby true hd with the A2. ask anyone that has heard true hd lossless and they will tell you the advantages. i may be biased

the A1 is also a Japanese made player, built like a tank. not like the chinese made a2

[kamma]

i have decided not to sell my hd-a1 anymore and went and bought a ps3 with the money i was going to buy the xe1 with. so thanks to those who showed interest.

[Maverick]

i have decided not to sell my hd-a1 anymore and went and bought a ps3 with the money i was going to buy the xe1 with. so thanks to those who showed interest.

Went this route myself and I think a few others have also done this. The A1/XA1 is still a great machine and not one that I am eager to get rid of. I think by the end of next year there will be some pretty nice players on offer from the manufacturers that will entice me to upgrade at that point.

[kamma]

Went this route myself and I think a few others have also done this. The A1/XA1 is still a great machine and not one that I am eager to get rid of. I think by the end of next year there will be some pretty nice players on offer from the manufacturers that will entice me to upgrade at that point.

yeah, it made a bit more sense atm

[pajames]

the a2 doesn't have 5.1 analogue outs. The A1 does !

not everyone has a hdmi receiver which means without the 5.1 analogue inputs of the A1 they will not get dolby true hd with the A2. ask anyone that has heard true hd lossless and they will tell you the advantages. i may be biased

the A1 is also a Japanese made player, built like a tank. not like the chinese made a2

Yes I know the A2 does not have the 5.1 analogue outputs and yes I know the advantages of having them if you don't have a HDMI receiver capable of the latest sound formats, this issue may or may not apply to a prospective HD buyer but it's a mute point as I was merely pointing out the selling price of the A1. Doesn't matter anyway as it's been withdrawn from sale.

I only wanted to point out that if you wanted a A1 you can get one alot cheaper overseas. :ph34r:

Cheers, Paul

[kamma]

Yes I know the A2 does not have the 5.1 analogue outputs and yes I know the advantages of having them if you don't have a HDMI receiver capable of the latest sound formats, this issue may or may not apply to a prospective HD buyer but it's a mute point as I was merely pointing out the selling price of the A1. Doesn't matter anyway as it's been withdrawn from sale.

I only wanted to point out that if you wanted a A1 you can get one alot cheaper overseas. :ph34r:

Cheers, Paul

would you walk into a shop while prospective buyers are talking/negotiating with a salesman and tell them they could get one cheaper down the road?

then why would you think you could do it here?

i could ask $1000 for it and its not your business, place or responsibilty to comment unless you are negotiating for it. even then i think pm would be the right way to do it

[pajames]

would you walk into a shop while prospective buyers are talking/negotiating with a salesman and tell them they could get one cheaper down the road?

then why would you think you could do it here?

i could ask $1000 for it and its not your business, place or responsibilty to comment unless you are negotiating for it. even then i think pm would be the right way to do it

Please you need to relax. It was brought up by someone else that recently a HD-A1 went for $325 on eBay so that could/would/may affect current pricing for these machines. I merely suggested the reasoning behind the lower prices and added an 'opinion' based on that reasoning and with the recent pricing of the same units on eBay and other forums that your price was a little expensive. You advertised in a public forum so you should expect public comment on your price whether it represents good value or not, you shouldn't be so thin skinned.

Anyone can take any comments made in any forum with a grain of salt, mine included, so any buyer is free to make up their own mind. If you don't want people to comment about your price then either mention that in your ad, or stick it on eBay.

Lastly to answer your question if I was in a shop then maybe I would tell them they could get the same item for half the price down the road, I'd sure appreciate it if someone told me. :-)

Cheers.

[momaw]

If you think it should be cheaper, PM the seller or put one up yourself cheaper.

my 2c

[djOS]

I'll reiterate my point, it is poor form to post about cheaper availability, etc in a Seller's thread, if it 's a retailer maybe but the seller should be able to expect to post their price without having another forum member start quoting what you did, it also sets a dangerous precedent which one hopes won't be followed.

Had you just pointed out the technical differences and made comment about prices dropping there would be no problem but I believe you took it further IMO and genuinely believe that nobody would appreciate it and finally this has been done to me here some time ago so that's where I come from.

Hear, hear!

[IanD1503559705]

My apologies for raising the issue of the recent ebay.com.au price for an HD-A1 and triggering antagonism in the seller's thread.

[kamma]

thnaks for the support neill, derek and mo. i do appreciate it and thanks for the sincere apology IanD. it takes a lot to admit fault. its a shame another couldn't.

[kamma]

I think no doubt we are all on a learning curve in here at times and we will on the odd occassion makes mistakes, but I would've thought that a simple acknowledgment of that mistake would have been good form.

Certainly don't think you triggered antagonism Ian and reckon we all know it was not your intention, no dramas on the support Kam I would do the same for someone I liked

when you coming over to stare at my ps3 with me? there is bugger all else to do on it atm

[blacknbrindle]

when you coming over to stare at my ps3 with me? there is bugger all else to do on it atm

can always surf the net on it like im doing lol

[pajames]

thnaks for the support neill, derek and mo. i do appreciate it and thanks for the sincere apology IanD. it takes a lot to admit fault. its a shame another couldn't.

Oh please, the hypocrisy. Actually what is poor form is trying to sell something to a fellow forum member at almost twice the price of what the item is actually worth, I was of the mistaken opinion that we are all here to help each other and enjoy discussing a great hobby not rip each other off. But obviously then we dare not point out publicly to someone that maybe their price is a little high for risk of offending, please. I must re-read the DTV forum code of selling etiquette.

Obviously then we can advertise and sell anything we want in the DTV forum at exorbitant prices in the hope some poor schmuck comes along not knowing any better and buys it thinking he's got a bargain, whilst the rest of us remain silent on the issue because we are not the ones selling the item and that we dare not interfere or express an opinion publicly whether we have good intentions or not, what a load of rubbish.

It was rightly pointed out by IanD that your item is now worth about 1/2 of what you were trying to sell it for, I say hooray for IanD, if someone didn't get their nose out of joint this thread wouldn't have degraded into the **** fight it has, but hey that's life.

Anyway talk about flogging a dead horse, I have an opinion that's obviously not shared by a few, life goes on. I must ensure then that in the future that no matter how high someone advertises something in this forum I won't say anything. Pinky promise.

Oh by the way I have a second hand Toshiba HD-A2 I may sell for $1000 if anyone's interested, bargain of century it is, promise.

[kamma]

the going rate on the forums for these a1's has been between $500-$600 give or take a movie or stepdown so i stand by my asking price and dont believe it to dear.

anyway its irrelevent because i'm keeping it but it was extremely poor form. if you cant see that then thats your problem.

[momaw]

Usually a price on a forum may seem higher, but regulars who know the sellers are aware they are buying well looked after equipment in top notch condition. It's the closest thing to a warranty or guarantee you can get on second hand goods. Then, as mentioned, there are usually extras, like in this case a stepdown transformer which can add up to and more than $100 to the price depending on power and quality. Plus there are usually free titles. All up I consider that good value.

If you prefer to buy off the dodgy bros on ebay and take your chances (I hear fraud can be up to 20% off all transactions now - the stats ebay tries to bury) and hope if it turns up it works in order to get a steal of a price rather than pay what is reasonable then go for it. Just don't come here and tell us your sob story if you have bagged someone here and then get burned.