Ps3 + Setup In My Tag = A Much Better & Worthwhile Pq Increase?

[Eth Nick]

Hey, people.

Thinking of adding a PS3 to the lounge, but am unsure if i'll notice much difference between (a)watching Bluray movies, via PS3, than (b)watching SD movies, via my DVD-S97 (which upconverts SD DVDs to 720p/1080i), on my TH-42PV60A.

Do you think it'll be worth adding a PS3 in the near future, or should I upgrade the plasma before jumping on the HD DVD bangwagon?

Also, i'm fairly sure games will be very fine on this screen - can anyone with a PS3 & TH-42PV60A confirm this?

Cheers.

[Hydrology]

Youre joking right?

Have you not read any of the threads on here regarding next gen formats?

Hey, people.

Thinking of adding a PS3 to the lounge, but am unsure if i'll notice much difference between (a)watching Bluray movies, via PS3, than (b)watching SD movies, via my DVD-S97 (which upconverts SD DVDs to 720p/1080i), on my TH-42PV60A.

Do you think it'll be worth adding a PS3 in the near future, or should I upgrade the plasma before jumping on the HD DVD bangwagon?

Also, i'm fairly sure games will be very fine on this screen - can anyone with a PS3 & TH-42PV60A confirm this?

Cheers.

[johnn1503560523]

IMO, watching any HD materials on anything other than a front projector system wont yield much if any noticeable differences.

[Chesty]

IMO, watching any HD materials on anything other than a front projector system wont yield much if any noticeable differences.

Your joking right?

[Eth Nick]

Youre joking right?

Your joking right?

Any chance of a straight answer?

I've read a few of the threads here, but all I get are opinions that go either way. Nothing definitive, which is why, ideally, i'm hoping someone with the same panel can shed some light.

P.S. I'm not joking!

[Felix..]

Do you have a HD STB box connected to this display Ralfi? It appears from your sig that you have the LG HD PVR. So do you notice a difference between SDTV broadcasts and the best HDTV broadcasts on your panel? If the answer is yes then you can expect a likewise increase in PQ with the PS3's Blu-ray output or for that matter from a HD DVD player on the best transfers those media currently offer.

I have a 42" Hitachi plasma (8800) and I can appreciate a major improvement when viewing good HD source whether it be from the PS3, HD-A1, Xbox 360 or HDTV FTA broadcast. I also have an upconverting DVD player (Denon 1920) which is nice but quality HD source still takes things to another level. Sure the differences with be even greater on the larger images produced by a projector but I can still enjoy the benefits true HD source can deliver on a 42" display. It's definitely not a case of the emperor's new clothes for me.

P.S. the HD broadcast of the Swans v Eagles match last night was sensational. A night and day increase in PQ from what we've seen before from sports broadcasts in Australia.

[Skid_MacMarx]

I have always found native high definition far better than "upconverted" regardless of screen or display device..

[kamma]

as long as the source material is good you will notice a big improvement even on a SD 42" plasma. i do anyway

[brodricj]

To me there is very little PQ difference between watching 1080i downscaled to 720p, or 576i upscaled to 720p. Same applies to 576p (SBS HD, Seven HD), although 720p on ABC HD does look good on a native 720p display. Also to me there is very little PQ difference in watching SD over composite video/s-video compared with HDMI. Actually my composite video looks better than s-video because my AudioQuest composite interconnects are much better than my Monster s-video interconnects. Can't say I notice any difference in PQ between my very expensive KEY DIGITAL HDMI cable and my very cheap PS3 HDMI cable, actually none what-so-ever.

I'm seriously thinking dumping 1080i and HDMI altogether and just watch everything in SD, avoid any handshake issues, plus I get the benefit of on screen display from my AV controller which is not available over HDMI. I'm sure a videophile will notice the difference, but for me with every day use, hardly notice any difference at all.

One thing to be aware of with PS3. If you're playing 1920x1080p BR discs with PS3 set to 720p out, you're only going to get 480p out and PQ might look very close to what you're used to with SD-DVD. So set your PS3 to 720p for gaming, and change it to 1080i for BR movie playback.

[ajm1503559545]

P.S. the HD broadcast of the Swans v Eagles match last night was sensational. A night and day increase in PQ from what we've seen before from sports broadcasts in Australia.

Oh yeah, wasn't it great!? I was flicking between the SD and HD for most of the game (except the last 10 mins ) just to soak up how big an improvement there was between the two. Big gold star to Ten for real HD.

[AndrewW]

To me there is very little PQ difference between watching 1080i downscaled to 720p, or 576i upscaled to 720p. Same applies to 576p (SBS HD, Seven HD), although 720p on ABC HD does look good on a native 720p display.

Are you still feeding your 1080i sources through your VP30 (which cannot de-interlace HD), or have you taken the advice given and connected it directly to your display ?

Andrew.

[AndrewW]

IMO, watching any HD materials on anything other than a front projector system wont yield much if any noticeable differences.

Rubbish, there is a noticeable difference even on my 32" LCD.

Sure the difference isn't as great as that on my 96" front projection system, but the difference is there.

Andrew.

[Eth Nick]

Thanks, people.

Good to know I won't need to upgrade the plasma any time soon then.

On the footy last night; there's a thread in the "HD Programs forum" full of peoples joy at how good it was, me included.

[kamma]

i thought the main camera view on the footy last night was amazing but the tight shots that panned quickly across the crowd were disgusting. the crowd looked very, very blocky

[Versus]

Oh yeah, wasn't it great!? I was flicking between the SD and HD for most of the game (except the last 10 mins ) just to soak up how big an improvement there was between the two. Big gold star to Ten for real HD.

Too right. Ten's HD feed was absolutely phenomenal. It was pure eye candy, even a 3D-ish quality with the players superimposed over the field. Hopefully Channel 7 will watch and finally learn not to let 576p masquerade as HD.

PS: On topic - Straight answer - Blu-ray through the PS3 can look very much better than DVD. Depends on the age of the film, whether it was digitally filmed, mastering quality, etc. Some discs look not much different from up-converted 1080i. Some look HIGHLY impressive - eg: Mission Impossible 3.

[johnn1503560523]

Well, I have connected my PS3 via HDMI to my Pana 42px600 (using the Persian's settings) and to my eyes I can hardly see much discernable differences with the OTA HD sources. However, on a tweaked PE7700 720p projector, BHD or Casino Royale, there is such a visual feast. Bear in mind that I also have an OPPO dvd player, but the PS3 shown huge improvement over this as well.

I remember there is a graph on one of the threads which tell you at what distance a HD source is more pronounce based on the type of display you have.

[Hydrology]

Can't say I notice any difference in PQ between my very expensive KEY DIGITAL HDMI cable and my very cheap PS3 HDMI cable, actually none what-so-ever.

Well you wont see ANY difference between one HDMI able to the next anways, theyre digtal - you either get it or you dont.

[Hydrology]

Ralfi,

Ask yourself ths question. Which is better - 414720 pixels or 2073600 pixels?

[Eth Nick]

Ralfi,

Ask yourself ths question. Which is better - 414720 pixels or 2073600 pixels?

New SD DVDs look damn good after they've been upconverted by my S97.

I'm simply asking whether a 42" plasma would show a huge improvement if I were to, say, buy the Bluray version of my new SD DVDs & play them through a PS3.

I'm not asking whether there's a difference between SD DVD & BD. Of course there is. I want to know if there's a huge diff between Upconverted, quality SD DVDs & Bluray.

Thanks again to those who helped.

[mattis]

To me there is very little PQ difference between watching 1080i downscaled to 720p, or 576i upscaled to 720p. Same applies to 576p (SBS HD, Seven HD), although 720p on ABC HD does look good on a native 720p display. Also to me there is very little PQ difference in watching SD over composite video/s-video compared with HDMI. Actually my composite video looks better than s-video because my AudioQuest composite interconnects are much better than my Monster s-video interconnects. Can't say I notice any difference in PQ between my very expensive KEY DIGITAL HDMI cable and my very cheap PS3 HDMI cable, actually none what-so-ever.

I'm seriously thinking dumping 1080i and HDMI altogether and just watch everything in SD, avoid any handshake issues, plus I get the benefit of on screen display from my AV controller which is not available over HDMI. I'm sure a videophile will notice the difference, but for me with every day use, hardly notice any difference at all.

Stuff me.... if you cannot see a difference between composite video and HDMI, you need to see an optometrist!!

Matt

[Taki]

It's not just resolution increases with the new HD formats. They've also improved massively on contrast and color rendition. HD source material allows far greater dynamic range and color palette.

[Chesty]

It's not just resolution increases with the new HD formats. They've also improved massively on contrast and color rendition. HD source material allows far greater dynamic range and color palette.

Agreed, the depth in color and contrast is amazing on BR. Again it depends on the movie you are watching however by and large the difference is huge.

The Departed is a good example of that...

[AndrewW]

it's not just an increase in resolution either.

most of the artefacts that we have all become accustomed to in DVD are gone in the HD formats (moire, macro blocking, edge enhancement) due to the higher quality compression algorithms used.

Andrew.