cdn Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 Sat 31/3 Mercury Southern Cross to change digital parameters on 3rd April 07. Guard interval will change from 1/8 to 1/16 The FEC will change from 2/3 to 3/4
digitalj Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 Also listed here: http://www.dba.org.au/index.asp?sectionID=...mp;display=news
chriswoo Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Interesting to see if this change will deliver us HD footy or the new SCB "mytalk" datacast?? or even maybe, both... Also the North is swapping a day before the south according to that media release...Please keep us southerners informed...
I am not a duck Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 (edited) Please keep us southerners informed... No problems so far. Edited April 2, 2007 by Island Antennas
lizclinton Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 Interesting to see if this change will deliver us HD footy or the new SCB "mytalk" datacast?? or even maybe, both...Also the North is swapping a day before the south according to that media release...Please keep us southerners informed... Only Mytalk unfortunately.
Electronicman Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 Interesting to see if this change will deliver us HD footy or the new SCB "mytalk" datacast?? or even maybe, both...Also the North is swapping a day before the south according to that media release...Please keep us southerners informed... My Healing HST822 has performed a couple of rescans over the day - only problem it adds the HD channels back in that I have previously deleted and reverts the channels back to the order that it wants them in, not the order that I wish them to be in! My Healing HSR999 goes into a reboot, but then locks up and needs a power refresh, then all comes back to normal. I have noticed on the Healing info page that STHX still has a guard interval of 1/8 and not on 1/16 as advertised - mayby they are trying to make the change but it is not happening! Maybe the changeover is causing STHX some problems!
digitalj Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 My Healing HST822 has performed a couple of rescans over the day - only problem it adds the HD channels back in that I have previously deleted and reverts the channels back to the order that it wants them in, not the order that I wish them to be in! My Healing HSR999 goes into a reboot, but then locks up and needs a power refresh, then all comes back to normal. I have noticed on the Healing info page that STHX still has a guard interval of 1/8 and not on 1/16 as advertised - mayby they are trying to make the change but it is not happening! Maybe the changeover is causing STHX some problems! Delete all channels and rescan, if this doesn't fix it, try a factory reset.
Electronicman Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 Delete all channels and rescan, if this doesn't fix it, try a factory reset. Why - there is nothing to fix - all is going OK! STHX advertised that set-top boxes/intergrated TV's should pick up the changes without any intervention; the box did the rescan by itself but the changes did not happen as STHX advised! And I am still receiving STHX as per normal. As the changes were taking place on April 2 in Northern Tas and April 3 in Southern Tas, I was merely keeping the southerners informed of happenings up North - not complaining that things are not working.
I am not a duck Posted April 2, 2007 Posted April 2, 2007 The parameters have only changed for Mt Barrow, not Kelcey Tier atm. Do not believe everything a set top box reports, as they are not always reliable in this respect. A competent digital field strength meter will show the correct parameters for the channel in question. My Healing HSR899 didn't suffer any hiccups, neither did my Nextwave. The Healing HS822 in the workshop, which I have only just checked, did a rescan as noted, annoyance factor only.
chriswoo Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Has the change added a new LCN ?? No new LCN after a rescan, but it's now 1/16 in Hobart.
lizclinton Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Can you see if there has been any change to bitrates on the transport stream ?
viper1431 Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 As of this morning i havn't been able top pick up southern cross.. i'm in hobart and have a humax f2 1010T. I've tried rescans ect.. it detects and adds southerncross but all i get is the 'no or bad signal' message. Edit: just looking at info the box shows for the channel it is listed as: ch 10 (212500khz) ch 10 8K FFT 1/16 edit again: nevermind i seemed to have fixed it, don't know how but something has done the trick
chriswoo Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 I also had an issue with my Humux box, but two rescans fixed it... As for a transport stream...i cant help there...sorry.
clipper Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 I have a Healing HST822 and no matter what I do SX refuses to show even though the quality bar is steady on 70%. Tried factory reset and rescan umpteen times. Put up a big Matchmaster DR3010 and changed the old cable to quadshield. That at least took the odd pix prob out of WIN. Wondering if the parameter change has somehow either damaged the box or rendered it less sensitive as it was working fine before the change.
Electronicman Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 I have a Healing HST822 and no matter what I do SX refuses to show even though the quality bar is steady on 70%.Tried factory reset and rescan umpteen times. Put up a big Matchmaster DR3010 and changed the old cable to quadshield. That at least took the odd pix prob out of WIN. Wondering if the parameter change has somehow either damaged the box or rendered it less sensitive as it was working fine before the change. Clipper Try deleting your SCT channel from the Healing's channel list and then do a manual channel scan under the installation menu. Change your channel to 10, curser down to manual scan, press OK. Your SCT should then come thru!
technocat Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 Also listed here: http://www.dba.org.au/index.asp?sectionID=...mp;display=news Alas they were a mighty team once under the guidance of Ricky Stuart (sniff sniff)
I am not a duck Posted April 8, 2007 Posted April 8, 2007 I have a Healing HST822 and no matter what I do SX refuses to show even though the quality bar is steady on 70%. If that is the Eb/N0 reading, I would start to be concerned. What is the BER reading on the line below? Changing the GI to 1/16 has the potential to cause reception problems in fringe/difficult areas, although I would have expected picture breakup or a "No signal" indication for that channel.
clipper Posted April 8, 2007 Posted April 8, 2007 Changing the GI to 1/16 has the potential to cause reception problems in fringe/difficult areas, although I would have expected picture breakup or a "No signal" indication for that channel. That makes sense having a shorter GI than before. You are right, it is in a fringe area. The change in parameters have dealt a dramatic blow. Before the change SX had no gliches to speak of yet now it's unwatchable. Seems like I need to find another spot for the antenna- bloody nuisance.
theeld Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 That makes sense having a shorter GI than before. You are right, it is in a fringe area. The change in parameters have dealt a dramatic blow. Before the change SX had no gliches to speak of yet now it's unwatchable. Seems like I need to find another spot for the antenna- bloody nuisance. I've seen the same thing, completely lost the channel with the change also in a fringe area (Charlotte Cove) Prior to ABC and SBS transmitting digital locally (Dover) we were relying on VHF from Mt Wellington. Oh well we'll be right when Southern Cross start local transmissions as well ... no I'm not holding my breath :-) Cheers Carl.
bizz Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Same problem here have lost channel ten and win as I am also fringe area off nook road. may have to try rescan or try facing arial toward kelcey tier as i know some people up my way have had some success with kecey now that its gone digital. Haven't they Marc J.
I am not a duck Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Haven't they Marc J. Yes, except when Mt Tassie comes in and wipes the Kelcey Tier translator channels out as it has been doing for about the last week. BTW the property I claimed success for close to you came unstuck for that very reason - ended up finding a spot from Mt Barrow through the bush - not to sure if it will hold up - going back in a coupla days to check. Pity the analogue signal from Porcupine Hill (Melrose) is poor quality, as that could be a fallback option for some.
bizz Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Hi again Marcj / All, Did a rescan last night on my strong HD. And also my Healing SD and all appaers to be O.K again so far. Hoping it will hold out just have to suck it and see. Note: channel ten still down a bit but appears to work O.K also. Going on your info Marc I may give kielcey a bit of a miss
clipper Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 I've seen the same thing, completely lost the channel with the change also in a fringe area (Charlotte Cove)Prior to ABC and SBS transmitting digital locally (Dover) we were relying on VHF from Mt Wellington. Oh well we'll be right when Southern Cross start local transmissions as well ... no I'm not holding my breath :-) Cheers Carl. So are you saying that you are picking up ABC and SBS digital from Dover? Could be a long wait before the commercials are also transmitting from there. Wonder if everyone in the Cove is now missing SX?
theeld Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 So are you saying that you are picking up ABC and SBS digital from Dover? Could be a long wait before the commercials are also transmitting from there. Wonder if everyone in the Cove is now missing SX? From Dover yes, SBS from Mt Wellington as well. As for Southern Cross, I know at least of least one place that's still getting it, but with the variety of aerials, orientations and amplifiers that exist in the area it's not suprising somebody is :-) I'll have to have a look at their set-up, Cheers Carl
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