Guest EZYHD Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 I see on the news Hicks gets 9 months in OZ Pen. with many conditions, must leave the prison there with in 60 days, guess he'll be on first plane out. I'm not sure if this sentence is right but he sure has been to hell and back, one thing for sure he wont do that again.
Skid_MacMarx Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 He has also been banned from taking legal action against the US. http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200703/s1886515.htm well thats the crux of the matter and they have placed a gag on him: The pre-trial agreement appears to have been designed with the Australian political calendar in mind.As well as keeping Hicks in jail until after the election, due by the end of this year, Hicks also had to agree to not talk to the media for one year. http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200703/s1886515.htm
Timmy Downawell Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 It's not like he's "only getting nine months" - he's already served five or six *years* without charge.
digitalj Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 It's not like he's "only getting nine months" - he's already served five or six without charge. 5 or 6 years, not 5 or 6 months
Skid_MacMarx Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 The "true terrorists" who killed innocent Aussies in Bali got far less
mello yello Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 Hes only secured a ticket out of the Guantanamo Gulag..he wont be a free man ..ever!! Hes already being used a political football with Howard quoting his "confession" .....confessions under duress and torture dont amount to much Im afraid Mr Howard, and you must really think the electorate is as stupid as you are if you think otherwise. British sailors being held in Iran have "confessed" as well .... ...American POWs in Vietnam "confessed" to a range of atrocities which their counterparts continue to commit today on the streets and suburbs of Baghdad. I forgave this poor guy ages ago..hes served his time in Hell.....and dont forget..ever forget Ruddock and Howards smug heartless press statements that went on for 5 YEARS !!!!....5 FRIKKING YEARS!!!!....and left him to rot for that amount of time....without a trial.
pneu Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 and they have placed a gag on him:http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200703/s1886515.htm The pre-trial agreement appears to have been designed with the Australian political calendar in mind. As well as keeping Hicks in jail until after the election, due by the end of this year, Hicks also had to agree to not talk to the media for one year. Now that really shits me. I thought at least he would be able to come back after 5 years and then flog his story for millions and come out of it better off. Like those 2 miners did. Ah well. I'm assuming they'll at least give him credit for his years already served?
Timmy Downawell Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 5 or 6 years, not 5 or 6 months ya ya typo. My bad. That's what happens when you edit something and the Insert key is off. I want to rip that key off my keyboard sometimes. That and the Caps Lock.
Timmy Downawell Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 I forgave this poor guy ages ago..hes served his time in Hell.....and dont forget..ever forget Ruddock and Howards smug heartless press statements that went on for 5 YEARS !!!!....5 FRIKKING YEARS!!!!....and left him to rot for that amount of time....without a trial. Yeah that's the thing. He wasn't guilty under any real laws, so they made him serve an unofficial term for something they knew they couldn't legally convict him for (even if he was a very naughty boy) whilst waiting for a convenient plea bargain -- quite coincidentally, I'm sure -- in time for the 2007 federal election.
-Bishop- Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 I have no doubt the guy was a gullible moron who chose the wrong path, but if we treated all people like that the way we treated him... When I read about the media gag, I just about gagged myself, biggest piece of BS I have ever heard of in my life, my biggest annoyance is that now all the media are suddenly referring to him as "terrorist David Hicks"...
Aloysius Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 Well at least David Hicks says he's guilty - guess we just have to take his word for that.
mello yello Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 Well at least David Hicks says he's guilty - guess we just have to take his word for that. Hmm....pity he didnt have the opportunity to say that 5 FRIKKING YEARS AGO!!!!
Skid_MacMarx Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 Well at least David Hicks says he's guilty - guess we just have to take his word for that. yet another "smartass" comment from the ol' fool
Guest EZYHD Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 And what get's me is the perfect timing of the 9 month sentence, so he won't be released until after the federal election. This then means he can't vote for JH.
Austen Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 This then means he can't vote for JH. He was going to ? Austen.
Aloysius Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Hmm....pity he didnt have the opportunity to say that 5 FRIKKING YEARS AGO!!!! Yes, I agree completely - it's also true to say that the delays have not all come from one source.
Steve C Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Yes, I agree completely - it's also true to say that the delays have not all come from one source. A source is a source, of course, of sorts - unless of course it's the famous indeterminate multiple indipendent sources that have no knowledge of events or authorisations that may or may not have been given. I suppose it'll be OK if you ever need emergency surgery - but it's delayed because not all of the delays have come from one source? You'll at least make the medical profession happy with that attitude. Not so sure about friends and relatives...
JoshH Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Wether he actually 'did' what he was accused of is sort of irrelivent IMO - he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and on the wrong side. He was lucky he wasnt shot on the battlefield IMO, or blown up etc. Edit - you have to question wether he is really 'all there upstairs' - I mean who goes to afghanistan to fight with the Taliban [or even visit them to say howdy for that matter] when you have worlds most advanced and well organised military force throwing their significant weight into thte region. This guy could easly have been a Julian Knight or worse.. Im glad he was locked up.
laurie Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 So since we have no federal jails just state prisons where will he serve his time, who picks up the bill Federal or State ? cheers laurie
mello yello Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 So since we have no federal jails just state prisons where will he serve his time, who picks up the bill Federal or State ? cheers laurie They should have thought of that before they declared war on Afghanistan and Iraq Id say a Federal bill to come out of Ruddock and Downers expense accounts..Costelo can make it tax deductible of course
mello yello Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Treasurer Peter Costello is also taking a hard line. "For those people who say poor David Hicks, I say the poor dead and their families that died in the World Trade Centre," he said. Its April Fools Day right? Could somebody ..anybody....on behalf of Peter Peter Pecker Eater show the connection between David Hicks and his pre 911 journey to Afghanistan and the "events" of September 11 2001? Please..Id love to hear them
Hussla Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Its April Fools Day right? Could somebody ..anybody....on behalf of Peter Peter Pecker Eater show the connection between David Hicks and his pre 911 journey to Afghanistan and the "events" of September 11 2001? Please..Id love to hear them umm because Hicks was working for Al-Quaeda, the same organisation responsible for the 9/11 attcks, his association with a terrorist organisation, etc.
Aloysius Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Has anyone seen what David Hicks has actually confessed to? I've been looking but not finding. All sorts of conjecture, prophesies, commentary etc on the future but precious little "He said" -
mello yello Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Human rights workers claim Hicks's charge violates treaties and Australian lawIn a March 11, 2007 opinion editorial in the Australian newspaper The Age, Peter Vickery a Special Rapporteur of the International Commission of Jurists, asserted that the sole remaining charge against Hicks was in violation of both Australian law and International treaties. Vickery stated that the offense of "providing material support for terrorism" was a "retrospective offense". Australian law proscribes prosecution for offences committed before the laws that made them indictable offenses had come into force, as does the United States Constitution. According to Vickery so do both the Geneva Conventions, and the Civil and Political Covenant — both treaties to which the USA and Australia are signatories. The offense of "providing material support for terrorism" only became an offence when President Bush signed the Military Commissions Act into law, on October 17th 2006. Commenting on why individuals are protected from prosecution from retrospective offenses Vickery wrote: "It deprives people of the knowledge of what behaviour will or will not be punished and makes breaches of the criminal law a lottery at the whim of those in power." Vickery noted that Australian Prime Minister John Howard, while commenting on Hicks's case in 2004, stated, "It's fundamentally wrong to make a criminal law retrospective."
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