BradJ Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Hi all, I rang telstra / foxtel to get this information and was told flatly that I couldn't do what I want, but setup threads here make me think I can. I need a foxtel STB that can output both composite and component video signals concurrently. I currently have the UEC DSD-1000 and it doesn't do it. You need to change a menu option to have a valid signal output via one or the other connector. It cannot output to both at the same time. Can anyone tell me for sure that a particular foxtel STB can output both video signals at the same time? I would even consider paying the extra for the IQ if I got this functionality. Many thanks, Brad.
extremeaudiowa Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 I currentluy have a pace420 in my house and i am outputting component video to my plasma in my family room. and outputting composite video from the second scart port to the front lounge works perfectly.
cyril Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 The Pace DS420 and the IQ will both output composite and component on the TV SCART simulateously and also output composite on the VCR scart as well. I was pretty sure that the UEC DSD-1000 would do the same, at least on the VCR SCART. Cyril
tonymy01 Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 99% of boxes with dual SCART, where one is designated "VCR-SCART" will output composite on the VCR-SCART connector regardless of menu setting of the TV-SCART output (VCR-SCART apptly named so you can hookup a VCR to it, i.e. this needs to be composite). A few boxes will let you do SVIDEO out the VCR-SCART, but these are the exception rather than the norm. Regards
mtv Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 I have found most devices with a VCR-SCART connector operate as described by tonymy01. The best way to know for sure is to try a SCART - Composite (+ L & R audio) cable. Make sure it is for SCART OUT to composite in, as there are two types of cables. Alternatively, you can use an IN/OUT cable (this will have 6 RCA connectors.. composite and L & R audio for both AV in/out.)
BradJ Posted March 26, 2007 Author Posted March 26, 2007 Thanks for the replies guys. And, what I would really like to do is run concurrent S-Video and Component. Any comments on that? I think that combination is potentially a problem. Thanks again, Brad.
wheelz Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Thanks for the replies guys.And, what I would really like to do is run concurrent S-Video and Component. Any comments on that? I think that combination is potentially a problem. Thanks again, Brad. I think you'll have trouble there brad,i tried s-video out of both scarts and it didnt work,i think as mentioned the best you'll get out of the "vcr scart" is composite,at least on my uec thats the case.
cummo Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Thanks for the replies guys.And, what I would really like to do is run concurrent S-Video and Component. Any comments on that? I think that combination is potentially a problem. Thanks again, Brad. You'll need the IQ if you want to do that.
steve hutch Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 None of the boxes I have come across, not sure about IQ, will output S-video and anything else. They will all output Component and Composite at the same time, composite out of the VCR scart and Component out of the TV scart.
wheelz Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 None of the boxes I have come across, not sure about IQ, will output S-video and anything else. They will all output Component and Composite at the same time, composite out of the VCR scart and Component out of the TV scart. You can have s-video out of "tv scart" and composite out of "vcr scart" at the same time no problems.
cyril Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Other than the IQ all boxs have a limited number of output dac/linedrivers. As such as soon as you select either Component or RGB on the TV scart the VCR scart will only output composite. If you select S-Video on the TV SCART then on all the Paces (not just the IQ) the VCR scart can do either composite or S-video. Cannot comment on the UEC but it may be limited to VCR composite when TV S-Videois selected, not having one I can not say. With all boxs when you select either Component or RGB the TV SCART will also be outputing Composite as this is needed for sync in RGB mode. In Component mode composite still remains although its not needed for sync as thats carried on the Y channel. Cyril
BradJ Posted March 26, 2007 Author Posted March 26, 2007 Thanks all, I really appreciate your replies. Shame if it is that I want component to run to my HD TV's through my matrix switcher and S-Video to run into my TiVo, so an IQ is overkill but hey, another HDD PVR can't hurt! I'm going to check out the deal to upgrade to IQ. I'm on foxtel platinum already so I think the upgrade is subsidised a bit. Thanks again. Brad.
bkw Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 Can Iask a related question? I want to run my Foxtel IQ on to a sceond tv which is about 10 metres away. I was going to use the Foxtel multiroom kit but I think that outputs through the RF connection only (and no stereo) but with the digital eye I can still operate the IQ through another remote in that room. My questions are: 1. Can I run a 10 metre long composite lead from the IQ (using the vcr scart out) to the second tv in another room? 2. Do they make 10 metre long compisite cables? 3. is there any way I can operate a remote control in the second room with this set up? Can I do it with an alteration to multiroom? Cheers
wheelz Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 Can Iask a related question?I want to run my Foxtel IQ on to a sceond tv which is about 10 metres away. I was going to use the Foxtel multiroom kit but I think that outputs through the RF connection only (and no stereo) but with the digital eye I can still operate the IQ through another remote in that room. My questions are: 1. Can I run a 10 metre long composite lead from the IQ (using the vcr scart out) to the second tv in another room?yes 2. Do they make 10 metre long compisite cables? yes jaycar/dick sm sell them or you could make your own 3. is there any way I can operate a remote control in the second room with this set up? Can I do it with an alteration to multiroom? not sure about the multiroom but you can buy "remote senders"http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?I...mp;SUBCATID=254 Cheers
BradJ Posted March 29, 2007 Author Posted March 29, 2007 Well, I've arranged to upgrade to IQ. For platinum its $10/month and $49 for self install. Fingers crossed it'll output what I need. Thanks all.
cyril Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 No need to cross your fingers, the IQ has two scarts, and a seperate RCA composite feed and seperate 4pin MiniDin S-Video socket. The MiniDin will always output S-video independant of what you have the TV SCART set to (ie Component in your requirement). Cyril
spf1977 Posted March 30, 2007 Posted March 30, 2007 Is the S-video output on the IQ box an alternative for the TV scart or VCR scart? I am pretty happy with my Foxtel picture quality, however, just for fun, I took out the TV scart cable out of the Foxtel and connected it to my set top box. I currently just run some cheap Yellow, White and Red (I think that is composite) cables from the set top box to the tv. The picture from the STB using the composite cables is better than the picture from the STB using the Foxtel supplied scart cable. Therefore depending on the answer to my first question, I am thinking of replacing the Foxtel TV scart cable with a better quality scart to component cable (I presume this is possible) and running S video to S video for the DVD recorder. Will this improve my picture quality? Thanks.
AndrejB Posted April 22, 2007 Posted April 22, 2007 Is the S-video output on the IQ box an alternative for the TV scart or VCR scart? As someone mentioned earlier, the IQ has S-video and composite outputs SEPARATE to the two SCART connectors, which are outputting no matter what you set your SCART output to. I have a SCART->component feeding my plasma, and S-video to S-video feeding my DVD recorder with IQ, and all works well. No need to invest in another SCART cable. Just for interest, Foxtel picture quality on the DVD recorder (Foxtel->S-video->DVD recorder->component->TV) is for all intents and purposes (read: pretty bloody close) identical to direct Foxtel->component->TV. Whoever tells you component in a HUGE improvement over S-video is full of it. I've written a brief (actually not so brief) article on my experiences with IQ connections.
Jards88 Posted April 23, 2007 Posted April 23, 2007 Other than the IQ all boxs have a limited number of output dac/linedrivers. As such as soon as you select either Component or RGB on the TV scart the VCR scart will only output composite. If you select S-Video on the TV SCART then on all the Paces (not just the IQ) the VCR scart can do either composite or S-video. Cannot comment on the UEC but it may be limited to VCR composite when TV S-Videois selected, not having one I can not say.With all boxs when you select either Component or RGB the TV SCART will also be outputing Composite as this is needed for sync in RGB mode. In Component mode composite still remains although its not needed for sync as thats carried on the Y channel. Cyril Cyril, The UEC box behaves exactly the same as the Pace as far as output goes. TV Scart can be set to output either Composite. SVideo, RGB or Component. The VCR Scart outputs SVideo if the TV Scart is set to SVideo otherwise Composite only. Cheers, Ian
ViVa Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 As someone mentioned earlier, the IQ has S-video and composite outputs SEPARATE to the two SCART connectors, which are outputting no matter what you set your SCART output to.I have a SCART->component feeding my plasma, and S-video to S-video feeding my DVD recorder with IQ, and all works well. No need to invest in another SCART cable. Just for interest, Foxtel picture quality on the DVD recorder (Foxtel->S-video->DVD recorder->component->TV) is for all intents and purposes (read: pretty bloody close) identical to direct Foxtel->component->TV. Whoever tells you component in a HUGE improvement over S-video is full of it. I've written a brief (actually not so brief) article on my experiences with IQ connections. Hi, does anyone know how to connected Foxtel (without IQ) to a media centre PC. I am thinking of using the media centre to record and also output on to my TV. Don't know how and where to start. I do get some clues from the discussions above and the article, but it would assuring to know that someone has done it! Thanks
Freak Posted April 26, 2007 Posted April 26, 2007 No need to cross your fingers, the IQ has two scarts, and a seperate RCA composite feed and seperate 4pin MiniDin S-Video socket. The MiniDin will always output S-video independant of what you have the TV SCART set to (ie Component in your requirement).Cyril So can i confirm a few things, because i'm doing similar at the moment.... I have a UEC-DSN700.2.1, i would like to output SCART to component, and SCART to composite which should be doable on all models? However i'm looking at a HD-Tuner card DN-Hybrid S2, which i believe only has S-Video input? So can i also run either a 3rd output Composite, Component, and Svideo? As mentioned before in this thread, my UEC700 has: 2x SCART output (VCR/TV) 1x SVideo - output 1x composite output. So essentially 4 outputs, can it do 4 outputs simultaneously? (3's all i need) If not can or will i be able to do Composite and S-Video at the same time? (In my setup options, i have PAL, S-Video and RGB as options in my STB.) To complicate things, i have requested the Pace420 box (due today or tomorrow), does the 420 give me the same 4 outputs, and combinations as the UEC700? My guess is i will need SCART to S-SVideo cable for HD tuner input, and SCART to composite (standard). And maybe just unplug and use component when i need to? Thanks for any info on the subject. PS: Could a Moderater PM me, i've tried sending an Email but it's bouncing, and i don't have the ability to start my own thread (no permission) but i can reply to others.. (is this normal?) I have some other questions regarding my HD-Tuner card i would like to post.
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