Aloysius Posted May 21, 2009 Author Posted May 21, 2009 Why would I need to confirm or deny support for any party? I've heavily criticized both sides of Government in the last 2 years on here so I have no need to have a blind faith in any party and I think you'll find others here are the same. That's probably why you had a need to start that thread about this place dying in the arse a few weeks back because you're disappointed about people not posting with the same one eyed approach as you have done for such a long time. If you disagree then it's up to you to deny that you are an Liberal supporter Refer the above
(ツ) Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Refer the above There wasn't much worth quoting in that post Aloy except for this... As for me - never voted liberal in my life - fair dinkum - give it a go - a little fession is good for the soul .... Which doesn't say much really. If you vote for an independent - where do their preferences go? In any case the question was whether you were a Liberal supporter, not who you voted for. There is a difference. Some Liberal supporters voted Labor last time around, as did some Labor supporters voted Liberal in 1996. But here's an easier question for you. If you're not a Liberal supporter why are they immune to your criticism?
ajm1503559545 Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 There you go AJM bag, bag, bag,Are you an ALP supporter? Time for fessing up - lets know where you stand As for me - never voted liberal in my life - fair dinkum - give it a go - a little fession is good for the soul Parrots are at least alive - more than can be said for some BTW check out how many threads you originated - and the respondents thereto - before you start heaping derision on others The comparison is stark and revealing - loser PS don't presume to tell others what they are interested in - how could you know You are just another self appointed OT forum sheriff - like - Who needs you baby already got plenty of those What does it matter where I stand? I don't have an agenda to push, not even my own. No one would believe that of you however. I'm not tell others what they're interested in Al. I'm telling you that very very few are interested in what you have to say. I know this because, very occassionally, I read some of your posts and threads you start. To say they are "thematic" is an understatement. More accurate to say they are carbon copies. Al, you're an ideologue, pure and simple. And like all ideologues you have no interest in discussion. With you it's a sermon, a lecture, a monologue - but never an original thought, you simply don't have the capacity. And like all ideologues you need to know where people stand before you listen to what they have to say.
mello yello Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 You are just another self appointed OT forum sheriff - like - Who needs you baby already got plenty of those Never a good sherrif around when you want one eh Aloy
mello yello Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 ["BACKFLIP, BACKFLIP, BACKFLIP" :P But I guess for those who are unable to imagine the present government doing such a thing it's probably seen more as "fine tuning" Pleeaasssee Actually backflips are part n parcel of government Aloy....from when Brutus stuck his backflip into Julius ...to todays Democracy-On-Wheels deliver to your door nationbuilding....a government has always been measured by how gracefully it could do a backflip nosedive somersault and somehow be able to land on its feet and still score 9ines and 10ens from the judges. What made Howard and the Liberal Party backflips even more spectacular ( whenever they performed one on cue) ..was the fact that they tried to tell us it was not a backflip we just witnessed but in fact was just a magic act...... no backflip...just a rabbit in a hat.. Most governments usually take them in their stride Aloy..and its no big deal......but with the recent Libs they went forward on a platform of no retreat no surrender when it came to any bread n butter issues or especially the humanitiarian issues......they went so far forward they found themselves at a dead end and well and truly painted into a corner as far as support for that stupid Iraq War and allowing children to rot in detention centres ...so that whenever they tried to perform one when they thought the crowd wasnt watching......they actually looked more like the clowns in the 3 ring circus.....rather than the acrobat Thats Le Difference
(ツ) Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 You're definitely right about the 3 ring circus There was Howard and those two other arseholes
(ツ) Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 The Flying Abbott n Costellos ?? Yep they're the ones... Funny where they ended up - one at the front - the other at the back - the other way around. Read my finger!
mello yello Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 I reckon the one at the front is ready to do a another backflip on Big Mal using Hockey One wonder who Hockey Two will be ? not the one at the back Shirley!!
Aloysius Posted May 21, 2009 Author Posted May 21, 2009 No quarrel at all with your collective takes re Liberals and previous governments - all fair enough. What is somewhat surprising is that the same rigour is not applied to the present ALP government - now why might that be? Is it vaguely possible that the "Ideologue" tag thrown in by AJM more fully applies to some of my dear colleagues on the forum Of course one may be wrong, but posts criticising the present government are quite rare in here - hopefully it's because they are doing such a good job there are no faults to find. But then again they are human and do have certain agendas so that possibility is somewhat remote. I know - to prove that we are not biased, lets all commit to a post that is critical of our favoured team - that would do it If that is frowned on - well - It's friday - have a fabulous w/end - I'm dining out tonite and tomorrow nite and golfing at 7am - no rain up here
(ツ) Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) No quarrel at all with your collective takes re Liberals and previous governments - all fair enough.What is somewhat surprising is that the same rigour is not applied to the present ALP government - now why might that be? I know - to prove that we are not biased, lets all commit to a post that is critical of our favoured team - that would do it There's no need for me or (anyone else to prove) anything about bias Aloy - which is what I said in another thread you're posting in. If you want proof, you just gotta do some reading. I've criticized Kevin Rudd on a wide variety of things, internet censorship, raising the retirement age, sending more troops to Afghanistan, blocking Dr Nelsons' $30 per week bill for pensioners around a year ago, the toothless tiger known as fuelwatch, their too hard basket approach to protecting superannuation funds, their lies about about the motive behind the alcopop tax, there are others but I can't remember them all... but there all here for your reading pleasure Al - hint, the "search" function is your friend Now then, I'd like to see you show your political impartiality Aloy. As per your request, commit to a post that is critical of your favoured team. If that is frowned on - well - It's friday - have a fabulous w/end - I'm dining out tonite and tomorrow nite and golfing at 7am - no rain up here Well I work weekends, can't complain though, the penalty rates are still there because Workchoices is not Enjoy your dinner and golf Edit Iraq = Afghanistan Edited May 22, 2009 by POWERZONE
(ツ) Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) O yeah, you can add the E.T.S. to that list as well Al. Edited May 21, 2009 by POWERZONE
Skid_MacMarx Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) Get kids off Christmas Island, Amnesty urges Amnesty International says it wants all children in detention on Christmas Island to be transferred to the mainland. The human rights group has criticised the Government in its annual report on the world's human rights abuses. The report says Australia has improved its approach to asylum seekers by abolishing temporary protection visas and closing its offshore detention centre on Nauru. But the human rights group says the Government has failed to close the new high security Christmas Island detention centre despite criticism from the UN Committee Against Torture. Children are kept in community detention on Christmas Island, but Amnesty Australia's national director Claire Mallinson is still critical. "Amnesty International is calling on the Government to move all children off the island and onto the mainland," she said. The report says the Government has failed to implement a promise that only asylum seekers who posed a risk to society would remain in detention. Ms Mallinson says the Time for Action plan has no new money from the federal Budget, leaving it open to failure. "We now look to see them implement those action plans; that means that they need to increase their funding," she said. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/28/2583530.htm Edited May 28, 2009 by Skid_MacMarx
Aloysius Posted May 29, 2009 Author Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) Where did this little spammer come from? Perfectly good thread hijacked by a clown Anyway I lost count of the backflips - whatever you say - and more to come as our brothers in the Union movement start moving on Kevin - he's just not their type really - sure he won the election handsomely - but now the real deal will emerge. I hope he has the support to hang in there, because he certainly understands reality more than they do. PS : PZ you can count that as a pro government post Edited May 29, 2009 by Aloysius
(ツ) Posted May 29, 2009 Posted May 29, 2009 Well I'm more interested in some posts that are critical of the Libs if you have any Aloy - but more importantly - that must have been one hell of a long golf tournament - what'd youse all do? Wait for a dry day or something? But you're correct, despite cries from the right about the unions running the country if Labor won the election it hasn't really happened, and I didn't think it would anyway. And yeah, I can't believe that spammer is still on here after all this time More on "Chooseday"
Aloysius Posted May 31, 2009 Author Posted May 31, 2009 Well I'm more interested in some posts that are critical of the Libs if you have any Aloy - but more importantly - that must have been one hell of a long golf tournament - what'd youse all do? Wait for a dry day or something? But you're correct, despite cries from the right about the unions running the country if Labor won the election it hasn't really happened, and I didn't think it would anyway. And yeah, I can't believe that spammer is still on here after all this time More on "Chooseday" Golf: I won - of course!!! Agree that the libs are wrong when they cry out about unions - BUT - anyone with a mind knows that Mr Rudd is not from the Union part of the ALP he is in fact despised by these folks and my mail is that their dislike makes the Libs look like babies. Anyway, wait and see, I reckon that it's going to get a bit tough with the different factors, and functions, and factions going head to head to get their share of the spoils. This is the reality - not criticism.
DrP Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 (edited) <fade to black, roll credits, fade to black, fade back up>THE END <wait 10 seconds, play scary 50's horror movie music> ... OR IS IT! Turnbull reopens door on individual contracts Johnny? Johnny, is that you? Where are you Johnny. <Johnny appears with an axe in his back, a knife in his stomach and a shotgun would in his leg> <girl screams> Coming to a theatre near you soon! Edited September 12, 2009 by DrP
DrP Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 I thought I'd dig up Aloy's old thread as a going away gift to him since he's off overseas for a while. So here you go Aloy. A nice big back flip to send you off. Mr Abbott indicated he was prepared to alter his election promises - including on his proposed broadband plans - in an effort to be "pragmatic" and win over the Independent MPs. Alleeeeeyyyyyyyoooop! Tony and the Flying Liberals are back in action.
Aloysius Posted August 23, 2010 Author Posted August 23, 2010 In a spirit of fellow forum memberness I acknowledge DrP's - friendly? - gesture :lol: Having said that - If I were an ALP supporter - I would be singing really low right now - future is looking somewhat sad much of it due to the incredible number of ALP backflips we have wtnessed over the last few months. In case there is any forgetfulness remember:- The Pink batts backflip? The Mining tax Backflip? The "I support Kevin Backflip"? The "We need to change - move forward" backflip? The "old Julia - new Julia" backflip? Hello? Stable government from the most superb backflip gymnasts in the business? Gotta be kiddin' - Right? :lol: :lol:
(ツ) Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 Having said that - If I were an ALP supporter - I would be singing really low right now - future is looking somewhat sad If they win then quite the opposite actually. The Coalition have lost their powerzzz of hostility in the senate. Now some stuff can get done for a change
Aloysius Posted August 23, 2010 Author Posted August 23, 2010 If they win then quite the opposite actually. The Coalition have lost their powerzzz of hostility in the senate. Now some stuff can get done for a change Quite frankly, from a Party perspective, to win now is to lose soon. IMO! You may just find that Mr Abbott doesn't try real hard to form a government, if he is given the opportunity.
(ツ) Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 Quite frankly, from a Party perspective, to win now is to lose soon. IMO!You may just find that Mr Abbott doesn't try real hard to form a government, if he is given the opportunity. Interesting comment. Not really a possibility I'd considered. With two avenues open in the senate instead of just one you would think an incumbent Government would be more effective than in the recent past - that is - if they are competent
Steve C Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 Quite frankly, from a Party perspective, to win now is to lose soon. IMO!You may just find that Mr Abbott doesn't try real hard to form a government, if he is given the opportunity. So why is he blowing all his time, effort and cash on courting the independents? Why are they both? If you reckon it's such an "no win" prospect for the "winner"? So Abbott and Gillard are equally as sad in their race to be the first to obtain the independents favour. You're prepared to try and put conservative spin on anything Aloy!! Still; the stuff you write is a window on the thought process behind a truly conservative mind - so conservative in fact that it's prepared in the bizzarest twist of logic, to knock back the opportunity it fought so desperately for through the course of the election campaign - the opportunity to govern that Tony crowed to the rafters about when it seemed on election night like the collective conservative prayers had been answered!! Even in these subsequent days the conservative conviction regarding the conservative "right to govern" has only been morphed into "superiority deserving of the reward of primacy"... The stuff you've written equates to the kid who fights so hard to have themselves a birthday party where they are the only centre of attention, but when they end up sharing the attention, they behave about as rationally and predictably as a a poorly wound up two-bob watch - swinging wildly from demanding what they assume is rightfully "theirs" all the way to shunning the limelight they so desperately sought in an ultimate act of childish contrition - all accompanied with the usual statements and predictions of dire circumstances if their way isn't the accepted way!! I suspect - despite Tony Abbott's conservatism; that he isn't of the same mind as you are Aloy... After all - showing reticence in forming a Government, when given the opportunity by the independents, will only force a re-election upon us all that much sooner; and it may not end up being as generous a result for the individual and party who has shown themselves to be incapable of taking up the reigns and working with what they've got...
DrP Posted August 24, 2010 Posted August 24, 2010 (edited) Thanks for the reminder Aloy. I hope you found my backflip detective work informative and that it reminds you, despite your obvious love affair with, that the sun does not shine out of the Liberal party's backside. Enjoy your trip overseas, but don't be too disappointed if upon your return you find that Labor is still sitting at the drivers seat. Edited August 24, 2010 by DrP
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