ShaneB Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 They are claiming people 316,000 people watched Rabbits v Roosters on Monday night. How do they know this? Do our Foxtel STBs dial out to a freecall number at various times and submit data on what we are viewing?
CallFire Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 They are claiming people 316,000 people watched Rabbits v Roosters on Monday night. How do they know this? Do our Foxtel STBs dial out to a freecall number at various times and submit data on what we are viewing? Ratings for pay tv are gathered the same way as fta, a small number of homes have special boxes the check what they watch, then the number is multiplied out to give a 'best guess' viewer figure.
digitalj Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Ratings for pay tv are gathered the same way as fta, a small number of homes have special boxes the check what they watch, then the number is multiplied out to give a 'best guess' viewer figure. So what happens if all those people were watching Roosters V Bunnies, and no one else was? hmmmm
Hosko Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 So what happens if all those people were watching Roosters V Bunnies, and no one else was? hmmmm Thats why there are smarter people then you at OzTAM that scientificly select the panel across different demo's. Its a very accurate system. However I wouldn't mind if my STU's sent back anonymous data each night as to what was watched this would only make the service better.
MattWinter Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 So what happens if all those people were watching Roosters V Bunnies, and no one else was? hmmmm you are not a mathematician - I can tell you that many mathematicians have devoted their lives to finding accurate ways of measuring statistics - and the system they have is basically flawless. I'm not suprised at all that the NRL got big ratings, foxtel subscriptions are rising quickly and that increases ratings - the top 3 rating foxtel shows ever have all been in the first 3 months of this year... (Shane Warne Interview, A-league Grand Final, Monday Night NRL).
cttc Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 No opt in method is flawless. All the people of the type who don't want the intrusion of someone monitoring their viewng habbits are not going to be sampled for a start! A good estimate yes.
digitalj Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 you are not a mathematician - I can tell you that many mathematicians have devoted their lives to finding accurate ways of measuring statistics - and the system they have is basically flawless.I'm not suprised at all that the NRL got big ratings, foxtel subscriptions are rising quickly and that increases ratings - the top 3 rating foxtel shows ever have all been in the first 3 months of this year... (Shane Warne Interview, A-league Grand Final, Monday Night NRL). I did 4 unit maths and passed it, what did you do?
CallFire Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 you are not a mathematician - I can tell you that many mathematicians have devoted their lives to finding accurate ways of measuring statistics - and the system they have is basically flawless. Realistically the current system is significantly flawed as it only counts live viewing and ignores time shift viewing.
mattgodman Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 So what happens if all those people were watching Roosters V Bunnies, and no one else was? hmmmm They pick the sample testers very carefully to make sure that every demographic and every taste is accounted for. If every single person in the sample group, be they 16, 40, 60, single, married, a doctor, or an electrician, watch the NRL then it's pretty safe to say that the majority of the country (or foxtel subscribers) watched it too. It's a very accurate system. They don't just let anyone be a part of the sample group.
CCF Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 It's clearly obvious that Foxtel reps went out to every home in Australia and peeped into the lounge room to see what they were viewing.
MattWinter Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Realistically the current system is significantly flawed as it only counts live viewing and ignores time shift viewing. But the chance that one particular game could prove to be significantly different from the actual figure is almost nil - the time-shift thing is a whole different argument, but the figures are very accurate when it comes to live viewing - which is what the figure represents. By the way, got a credit first year stats last year...
ShaneB Posted March 21, 2007 Author Posted March 21, 2007 I see. I wasn't sure if Foxtel was using those 'people meters' to measure their ratings. Thinking more about this there could be privacy issues if the Foxtel STBs anonymously dialled a freecall number in the wee hours to submit viewing data. Stratified random sampling I believe what you guys are talking about. You can always argue that anybody who voluntarily chooses to participate in surveys automatically biases the sample.
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