Autocrat Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 My stupid question is this: why is it called a Television Set? Did it used to come as separate components?
Steve C Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 My stupid question is this: why is it called a Television Set? Did it used to come as separate components? Wha...? I suppose it's a logical conclusion, and given the technology requires a tuner and a screen to display the signal that the tuner receives, then a combination of the two in a single box is worthy of being called a 'set'. The recent trend towards seperate components, with STB and display panel is in actual fact not a return to how TV was originally sold to the masses... Flogging consumers items that should be contained in 'sets', so that more money can be made is a much more recent trend!
Autocrat Posted March 21, 2007 Author Posted March 21, 2007 I don't know which is more stupid, the question or the answer. Just because something has more than one thing inside of it doesn't make it a "set". On that basis, I could argue that my chair is a set because it has legs, a back and somewhere to park my arse.
CoNFooZeD Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 There are no stupid questions, only stupid people According to www.thefreedictionary.com one definition of a set is: "The collective receiving apparatus assembled to operate a radio or television"
Steve C Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 I don't know which is more stupid, the question or the answer. Just because something has more than one thing inside of it doesn't make it a "set". On that basis, I could argue that my chair is a set because it has legs, a back and somewhere to park my arse. So you are saying that the word chair isn't a term that defines a single item. What would you call it given that it has - as you say, parts that are named in such a way as to make them seem mutually exclusive or optional to the make up of an object that is generally known by English speaking peoples as a chair? BTW, if you were to go into a shop to purchase a bunch of chairs you'd ask for a 'what' of matching chairs? What about a whole bunch of 'Lego' in a box? They're all seperate elements... so it should perhaps be known as "Quantities of individual Lego building units contained for easy transportation before unpacking, within a cardboard box like container"? Calling it a "Lego set" doesn't really cover it does it? Of course; where you decide to set your arse is your prerogative. I'm too set in my ways however to set a new course in object description.
Nevyn72 Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Well so far a set may or may not be a set, given that while a complete device it has a set of components that together form a unit..... Now how about a set top box? Not only are these only vaguely box shaped, but they only very rarely rest on top of the 'set' which may or may not actually be a set but in fact a unit or device. Most of these actually reside below or beside the err, set. So what we really have is a set/device/unit - top/beside/below - electronic broadcast reciever containment vessel! Or S/D/U-T/B/B-EBRCV for simplicity...... That should prevent confusion amongst the punters out there!!
Steve C Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Well so far a set may or may not be a set, given that while a complete device it has a set of components that together form a unit.....Now how about a set top box? Not only are these only vaguely box shaped, but they only very rarely rest on top of the 'set' which may or may not actually be a set but in fact a unit or device. Most of these actually reside below or beside the err, set. So what we really have is a set/device/unit - top/beside/below - electronic broadcast reciever containment vessel! Or S/D/U-T/B/B-EBRCV for simplicity...... That should prevent confusion amongst the punters out there!! Or, given that with many modern TVs the actual display component has been seperated from the tuner, it'd also be fair to refrain from calling the seperate tuner "set" top, bottom, left hand side, right hand side, in front of or behind - box... but rather "Tuner for stand alone Display Panel, except for when the relevant tuner for Digital Standard or High Definition program content is inbuilt into the display panel or AV connection unit, which can be placed conveniently or inconveniently where the operator or their wife/de-facto or children determine". Some of these devices may not function properly if the correct PC terminology isn't used to describe them...
Timmy Downawell Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 "The collective receiving apparatus assembled to operate a radio or television" TV + coax cable + antenna = set.
mello yello Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 My stupid question is this: why is it called a Television Set? Did it used to come as separate components? Only if you bought one from IKEA
digitalj Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Only if you bought one from IKEA Mello, what happened to your sig? :P
Aloysius Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Great thread - and it's all about boring old "set theory" I'm amazed that humour could emanate from such a source - great work guys
stahc Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Only if you bought one from IKEA ah mrs chats former employer.................anyone for an allen key
mello yello Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Mello, what happened to your sig? Im not looking dig..youre just trying to trick me Theres nothing wrong with my sig
mello yello Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 ah mrs chats former employer.................anyone for an allen key Moore Park? ..its closed down now Best thing I bought from IKEA was the Poang rocker chairs
digitalj Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Im not looking dig..youre just trying to trick me Theres nothing wrong with my sig Your emoticon sig at the end of most posts, like this: " "
mello yello Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Your emoticon sig at the end of most posts, like this: " " Thats right..most posts
Nevyn72 Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 ah mrs chats former employer.................anyone for an allen key Allen can keep his keys, I have my own! If Allen is so prolifrogate with his keys, how does he keep his HT secure?
stahc Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Moore Park? ..its closed down nowBest thing I bought from IKEA was the Poang rocker chairs no prospect then rhodes
Thudd1503560234 Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 Only if you bought one from IKEA That would be their new FÄLTÏSÏGGNYL set-top box wouldn't it?
BribieG Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 I remember when you would go out and buy a record player. Then HI FI came in so you needed a turntable, an amplifier and some speakers. Then some bright spark realised that you could also include a radio into the mix. And then a tape deck. So the 'early adopters' ended up with a lounge room looking like a Dr Who laboratory, all different manufacturers . Then to sort out the chaos the idea of the 'music centre' was born around 1980 with integrated turntable, tape deck, radio tuner, amplifier and later CD player, in a neat stack (invariably black) with 2 speakers. Same thing is happening with TV and we are back to the Dr Who laboratory. Typical setup: TV screen. 5.1 with cables all over the floor. DVD player also doubling as the sound system. HD tuner. PVR. All different manufacturers. Wonder what we'll be looking at 5 years from now - and will it invariably be black??
Gas Man Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 That would be their new FÄLTÏSÏGGNYL set-top box wouldn't it? hye i went to school with that guy, didn't know he had a tv though......
Mining Man Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 Sounds like the Polish guy that was asked if he could read the bottom line (CYZTWYK) during an eye exam. "Read it? I know the guy!!"
Thudd1503560234 Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 A mate of mine knew a Polish guy in the army. They called him "A-to-Z".
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