dkint3 Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 I am considering this set as I am not convinced that LCDs is the best option at this point in time due to the following: * Handling of fast moving images eg. sport * Degradation of FOXTEL picture quality * The likelihood that within 5 years or so, LCD will have improved (or something else will come along) that will address the above * To a lesser extent - price I have found a retailer here in Newcastle that has this NEC TV for $499. Ideally, I would have liked a 76cm model, but the only CRT options are LG or Samsung, which are around the $900 - $1100 mark. Given that I am currently watching SD digital in widescreen on a 4:3 59cm CRT (with black bars top and bottom), going for this NEC model seems like a worthwhile option for the next 5 years or so.. The NEC's PQ seems quite good on SD digital - it doesn't handle HD signals very well (such as the Ch 10 HD loop that was on display), but that is not a major issue for me at this point as I only have an SD box. Does anyone have any opinions on this model?
PanaSung Posted March 18, 2007 Posted March 18, 2007 I am considering this set as I am not convinced that LCDs is the best option at this point in time due to the following:* Handling of fast moving images eg. sport * Degradation of FOXTEL picture quality * The likelihood that within 5 years or so, LCD will have improved (or something else will come along) that will address the above * To a lesser extent - price I have found a retailer here in Newcastle that has this NEC TV for $499. IMO, it's not worth it anymore because 32in no name brands LCD's are $800-$900{Viewsonic 32 is $900} You can use the LCD as a PC monitor with varying results{although should be fine for games, DVD and HDTV playback with the right video card and drivers}. HDTV will look quite good as long as the contrast ratio is at least 800:1{1000:1 is preferable}......but you lose that option with the NEC. I've yet to see a hint of motion blur on any of the latest LCD's.....in fact, the PC game Fear looked better on a mates 19in Benq 91 LCD than on my 19in CRT, and I didn't notice a single problem with blur/ghosting. A 32's size will help hide the horror of the lower signal Foxtel channels{not all of them are crap}, also SDTV FTA will look very good on it. If all you watch is Foxtel and DVD, then it wouldn't be the end of the world as a bedroom TV though.
dkint3 Posted March 18, 2007 Author Posted March 18, 2007 Thanks for the reply, Panasung. I just did not feel comfortable with spending $1000+ on an LCD knowing that it wasn't as good at handling lower quality images - and also what I perceive as 'motion blur' issues (but it all depends on your personal preferences). I think LCD still has some way to go before it renders CRT completely obselete.
PanaSung Posted March 18, 2007 Posted March 18, 2007 Thanks for the reply, Panasung.I just did not feel comfortable with spending $1000+ on an LCD knowing that it wasn't as good at handling lower quality images - and also what I perceive as 'motion blur' issues (but it all depends on your personal preferences). I think LCD still has some way to go before it renders CRT completely obselete. I don't see any motion blur on the lastest gear, however, if you are, then best avoid it I guess. Although, you need to factor in viewing experience and versatility rather than just pure PQ{and a small picture at that}. Go and view the very new Sharp 32in LCD{a bit Hexy atm}, but prices will drop....and let me know what you think{make sure it's the one that's only just been released}......if the PQ doesn't ring your bell, then nothing will{yet}.
dkint3 Posted March 21, 2007 Author Posted March 21, 2007 I don't see any motion blur on the lastest gear, however, if you are, then best avoid it I guess.Although, you need to factor in viewing experience and versatility rather than just pure PQ{and a small picture at that}. Go and view the very new Sharp 32in LCD{a bit Hexy atm}, but prices will drop....and let me know what you think{make sure it's the one that's only just been released}......if the PQ doesn't ring your bell, then nothing will{yet}. I did start out at looking for a 32 inch LCD.. the Sony Bravia V Series was the one I had in mind.. It was supposed to be one of the better ones, but I could still this 'blur' and it wasn't cheap at $2,200 (the best price I could get). Given that at the moment, I'm watching 16:9 programming on a 59cm 4:3 TV, the 66 cm widescreen will bring an improvement - though not a vast one in terms of viewing area compared to an 81cm, also another improvement will be that the WSS dots that appear just out of the 16:9 picture on a 4:3 TV will also disappear.
PanaSung Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 I did start out at looking for a 32 inch LCD.. the Sony Bravia V Series was the one I had in mind.. It was supposed to be one of the better ones, but I could still this 'blur' and it wasn't cheap at $2,200 (the best price I could get). http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=28247 Something to consider...76cm for $397.
Guest fatsocat Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 I have purchased this NEC set approx 8mths ago. I decided to buy a flat tube TV as I wanted something that could take impacts without damaging the display (I have an active 8yr old and did not want to take the risk of him damaging an LCD or Plasma set) My budget was limited and at $450 it was a good buy for a CRT widescreen set. The picture is clear and crisp but the main thing that lets this set down is the lack of a component input for DVD connection There is a scart and composite input on the rear and s-video & composite inputs on the front. I have contacted NEC to try and confirm what video signals they use on the scart but they were not able to clarify if RGB or s-video is used. Unfortunately this means that connecting devices via the scart socket could produce less that perfect results depending on the method of connection. ie. scart to scart, s-video to scart, RGB to scart, etc I am looking at purchasing the Panasonic DMR-EZ47V (DVD recorder / VCR combo with integrated SD tuner) for connection using the s-video output on this unit to connect to the scart connector via a scart to s-video cable. Without details on the scart connection on the TV some experimentation will be required. Is there anyone out there who has connected devices to this set and can confirm what works? In hindsight I should have purchased a set with component input(s) but rushed into the purchase for fear of missing out due to the demise of CRT sets.
BribieG Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Can't offer any help here but note that where I work there are quite a few current model CRT sets (LG) around the office, used for displaying info and they have component input. The thing is that CRT isn't going to get 'demised' any time soon because millions and millions are still being, and will continue to be, made for markets like China, Brazil and India. So if you hunt around and decide to upgrade again in maybe a year and are still happy with CRT I'm sure you'll find a set with better inputs. NB I have a Sony 51 cm flat screen in the bedroom and it's not that old, but has only composite. I suggest that the very fact that many new CRTs have component represents an 'upgrade' - i.e. this gives the lie to CRT not being further improved. Obviously it is still being upgraded, I understand there are CRT sets now with HDMI, so don't write off the technology yet.
Quelch Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 I have purchased this NEC set approx 8mths ago. I decided to buy a flat tube TV as I wanted something that could take impacts without damaging the display (I have an active 8yr old and did not want to take the risk of him damaging an LCD or Plasma set)My budget was limited and at $450 it was a good buy for a CRT widescreen set. The picture is clear and crisp but the main thing that lets this set down is the lack of a component input for DVD connection There is a scart and composite input on the rear and s-video & composite inputs on the front. I have contacted NEC to try and confirm what video signals they use on the scart but they were not able to clarify if RGB or s-video is used. Unfortunately this means that connecting devices via the scart socket could produce less that perfect results depending on the method of connection. ie. scart to scart, s-video to scart, RGB to scart, etc I am looking at purchasing the Panasonic DMR-EZ47V (DVD recorder / VCR combo with integrated SD tuner) for connection using the s-video output on this unit to connect to the scart connector via a scart to s-video cable. Without details on the scart connection on the TV some experimentation will be required. Is there anyone out there who has connected devices to this set and can confirm what works? In hindsight I should have purchased a set with component input(s) but rushed into the purchase for fear of missing out due to the demise of CRT sets. 'Tassie Devil' did a lot of work on connections for different TVs Going from memory I think his conclusion was that there was no discernible difference between S-video and component in this size of screen I use S-video to connect a PVR and a set top box to my 26" JVC CRT TV and the result is excellent picture quality
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