GregA1503560021 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 My father has asked me to recommend a 50" replacement TV. I had recently asked on here for a 42" HDTV and Panasonic was highly recommended, particularly for how well it upscaled lower res signals. Anyway, my father doesn't particularly like the general frame look of the Panasonic (forgetting the actual TV picture quality!). He's listed a few other models, I thought maybe you guys could tell me pros or cons?!?! Panasonic TH-50PV60A ($3000) Samsung ?? LG's LG50PC1D ($3500) Pioneer's PDP-507XDA.($5000) (includes delivery/install/mounting brackets/5yr warranty) I understand the LG & Pioneer have built in HDTV tuners - a small advantage, though everything goes through his amp before it goes to the TV, so this may actually be a negative for him. He also doesn't need speakers. Thanks for any and all thoughts and advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50mxe20 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 If you want quality stick with Pioneer and Panasonic and forget the others IMHO. Also if you don't like the aesthetics of the tradiitional Pio and Pana's, have a look at the commercial variations. Neither come with tuners but they have a lot of other advantages IMO including better looks. You pay a bit more for the Pio's but they come with 5 year warranty and installation. The commercial Pioneer comes with an ISF calibration for free too, but they tend to be $500 or so more so is it really free! There are some threads that are worth a read. Just search on Panasonic or Pioneer. They are not hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanaSung Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I think it's an outrage that LG are pricing themselves anywhere near Panasonic.....seems like a marketing ploy to dupe people into believing that LG's engineers are as good as Panasonic's. I think the consensus is that the Pioneer is the best, but it also costs more.......to me the Pana is the best 50in bar none if we add value to the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50mxe20 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 The big four in plasmas are generally considered to be Fujitsu, Pioneer, Hitachi and Panasonic. Not necessarily, but possibly, in that order. Bangs for buck though, the Pansonic is very good and is very popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heiser202 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Panasonic TH-50PV60A ($3000) - No HD tuner - 1 yr warranty Samsung PS50Q7HD - $2900 interest free ( whiteknightoz got one for $2650 cash ) HD tuner - 2 yr warranty LG's LG50PC1D ($3500) ?? Pioneer's PDP-507XDA.($5000) (includes delivery/install/mounting brackets/5yr warranty) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50mxe20 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Panasonic TH-50PV60A ($3000) - No HD tuner - 1 yr warrantySamsung PS50Q7HD - $2900 interest free ( whiteknightoz got one for $2650 cash ) HD tuner - 2 yr warranty LG's LG50PC1D ($3500) ?? Pioneer's PDP-507XDA.($5000) (includes delivery/install/mounting brackets/5yr warranty) You can get the 507 for less than that. Don't know about the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superted Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 The big four in plasmas are generally considered to be Fujitsu, Pioneer, Hitachi and Panasonic. Not necessarily, but possibly, in that order. Bangs for buck though, the Pansonic is very good and is very popular. Agree with those for best quality.....the Hitachi 55" is great value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazzwald Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I think it's an outrage that LG are pricing themselves anywhere near Panasonic.....seems like a marketing ploy to dupe people into believing that LG's engineers are as good as Panasonic's.I think the consensus is that the Pioneer is the best, but it also costs more.......to me the Pana is the best 50in bar none if we add value to the mix. Normally Panasonic reacts to the LG pricing in the market to retain its market share. I would agree that bang for buck Panasonic is the way to go, but it seems the Samsung 50" is going cheap out there as well... Brazzwald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeg888 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Panasonic TH-50PV60A ($3000) - No HD tuner - 1 yr warrantySamsung PS50Q7HD - $2900 interest free ( whiteknightoz got one for $2650 cash ) HD tuner - 2 yr warranty LG's LG50PC1D ($3500) ?? Pioneer's PDP-507XDA.($5000) (includes delivery/install/mounting brackets/5yr warranty) Bought a Pio for the inlaws from JB for $4500 at the weekend. First price they quoted was $4750, think it was marked at $5300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heiser202 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I didnt post the price. I updated the best price on Samsung. The other prices are from the first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee88 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 If he doesn't like the PV50 design, how about the PX600A design ? The 50PX600A can be had for high $3XXX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyRogers Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Agree with those for best quality.....the Hitachi 55" is great value Check the Hitachi website, now offering $500 Cash back till 30/04/07 on the 55". Coupled with pricing posted by others this panel could be had at around $4k. I paid $5400.00 in early December 06. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heiser202 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I like the samsung design. I hate the sd card pull down on the 600a. It looks like someone dented the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes1503560020 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Best to check for yourself - but when I compared the 50pv60a with the 507 pioneer, I preferred the panasonic. On the HD loop material at HN, the panny was smoother (less artifacts on straight edges etc) while still having great sharpness and clarity. I preferred colors on the panasonic too. Now I didn't run through all the 507's menu items, perhaps the setup was not optimal - but the salesman was talking up it's PQ until I pointed out the flaws above. Certainly setup is everything with these TV's. BTW, I have my 50pv60a connected up to the cheap philips 7200 HD STB ($198 from BigW and a screaming bargain IMO). The PQ is magnificent on HD material - far, far better than anything I saw in the demo setups at HN etc. SD channels are much less impressive - not sure if this is because of the STB scaler (i use the 1080i output) or simply the broadcast quality. There is, of course, a lot of variation in the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztec Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Check the Hitachi website, now offering $500 Cash back till 30/04/07 on the 55". Coupled with pricing posted by others this panel could be had at around $4k. I paid $5400.00 in early December 06. Roy If space and seating permits the 55" is excellent value, IMO. It's scalar is so good that you don't need to worry about upscaling DVD players, number (and placement) of inputs is second to none AFAIK, SD card input, etc. Only issue is no internal digital tuner, two analogue tuners but these are a waste of space. Maybe you should list what he will be connecting to it so we can hopefully provide more qualified input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superted Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 If space and seating permits the 55" is excellent value, IMO. It's scalar is so good that you don't need to worry about upscaling DVD players, number (and placement) of inputs is second to none AFAIK, SD card input, etc.Only issue is no internal digital tuner Thats where the new toppy 7000pvr comes in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
com59841503560232 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Check the Hitachi website, now offering $500 Cash back till 30/04/07 on the 55". Coupled with pricing posted by others this panel could be had at around $4k. I paid $5400.00 in early December 06. Roy See review of Hitachi 55 http://review.zdnet.com/Hitachi_55HDT52/45...6-31426930.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Or the new 50 inch Hitachi plasma's. Look nice. anyone got one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyRogers Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 See review of Hitachi 55http://review.zdnet.com/Hitachi_55HDT52/45...6-31426930.html The Cash back offer applies to the 55PD8800TA, not the model you have linked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50mxe20 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Or the new 50 inch Hitachi plasma's. Look nice.anyone got one? Up there with the top four bands. Is one in fact. Have you tried using the search engine on "Hitachi". eg,Hitachi 42PD8900TA Hitachi 50" $$$? New Hitachi 50" Plasma? Hitachi 8900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregA1503560021 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Bought a Pio for the inlaws from JB for $4500 at the weekend. First price they quoted was $4750, think it was marked at $5300 Thanks all, They bought the Pioneer for $4800 fully installed. Looks great. No complaints at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joecool Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Agree with those for best quality.....the Hitachi 55" is great value I was really keen on the hitachi 55" also, but had a look at the Pio 507. Althought the 55" looks enormous, its picture was rather soft compared to the Pioneer. Both were running the channel 7 HD loop ( HD!!? ). I take it's cos the same res on a bigger display = bigger pixels on the 55"? Now I'm tempted to pull the trigger on the 507. Smaller I know, but when I'll be sitting 3.2 meters away, I'm sure this thing will be plenty big, compared to my KVHR36M31. HN Moorabbin in Melb, has it at $4999. Hoping I can get close to $4500 on 24months interest free!! They also had the 55" hitachi at $4299 - after $500 cashback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgyblue1503560789 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 HN Moorabbin in Melb, has it at $4999. Hoping I can get close to $4500 on 24months interest free!! They also had the 55" hitachi at $4299 - after $500 cashback. I bought the 507 2 weeks ago from CP in Richmond for $4650. I sit 3.7 m away and its plenty big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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