AndrewW Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 and on a more positive note. I believe that all payments have been made, and the order should have been placed with Yamaha. So hopefully the shiny new avrs should be winging their way out to the Group Buy participants asap. Please post here when they start arriving. Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocca1503559681 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 must ... show ... restraint ...The group buy price is definitely not an easily obtainable price. It was at least $150 better than the absolute lowest price I could get anywhere, or that I know if anyone getting in the past. Heck, some stores are still selling them at full RRP and refusing to budge from there. Committing to the group buy, finding out the price, then using the group buy price as a bargaining position with a local dealer and then dropping out of the group buy is one way you could probably get the group buy price outside the group buy ... but then who would do that ? Andrew. I could not agree more and I do know of a couple of dealers NOT discounting as the 2700 has been in limited supply ... so very well done. I am also auditioning speakers with them on Saturday with the 2700 I hope.. thanks again cheers bocca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byte-me Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Hey Andrew While I was not involved in this deal I will take the opportunity to thank you on behalf of everyone that has been lucky enough to be involved in this or any other group buy and realise the savings that are had by them. I have organised a couple of group buys in other forums and they do take quite an ammount of time and a little cost to organise and usually for no gain by the organiser apart from getting the item at a better price because of the group buy and just wanting to help out fellow enthusiasts. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momaw Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 must ... show ... restraint ...The group buy price is definitely not an easily obtainable price. It was at least $150 better than the absolute lowest price I could get anywhere, or that I know if anyone getting in the past. Heck, some stores are still selling them at full RRP and refusing to budge from there. Committing to the group buy, finding out the price, then using the group buy price as a bargaining position with a local dealer and then dropping out of the group buy is one way you could probably get the group buy price outside the group buy ... but then who would do that ? Andrew. You certainly won't come close to this price in Canberra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50mxe20 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 just to let you guys know.... the price through the group buy is achieveable through normal shops....i wont disclose the price unless andrew does but all i will say is that its achievable without a group buy Bad form I'm thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwimeat Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Can I add my thanks to Andrew for his excellent endeavours - truly a fine example of a positive contribution to the forum. I did express my interest in joining the group buy but unfortunately circumstances did not allow me to join in. The price was excellent and I had not seen or heard of better prices for the 2700B. Congratulations to all the lucky buyers and thanks again Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelz Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 just to let you guys know.... the price through the group buy is achieveable through normal shops....i wont disclose the price unless andrew does but all i will say is that its achievable without a group buy Theres one in every crowd,always trying to put down someones good work when they sit there quietly and contribute nothing themselves.At least there are many on here that appreciate the work done by people to help out others.Well done andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewW Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Andrew please also note my sig has changed again, there is something missing WOOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewW Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 what if your stunt increased the price by $150.00 for the rest of us how do you reckon we would feel about that. And that $150 increase would only have taken the GB price up to the lowest price anyone had ever paid for the amp (that I'm aware off), assuming that you would be able to negotiate that price. Consider the couple of people in the GB who live in remote areas with only one HiFi store who would only sell at full RRP Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcard342 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Wish I could have afforded to join the group buy. Was and still is a good deal for the vast majority of us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony123 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 hey before everyone goes jumping off the deep end i was keen on buying the unit but my house is around 2 months away from being built so didnt "really" need it now... so was at the local yamaha dealer and said im looking at buying the 2700... can u do it for $X price... he said "yeah i can do that, I sold 2 yesterday for only abit more" so i think the prices overall have dropped... he said the new model (2800B maybe) will be out in bout 5-6mths so that maybe the reason. Anyways Andrew well done for getting a good price for everyone.... all i wanted to say is that if you missed out you can still pick up a good deal. At the end of the day they are still making money... the guy even told me the cost price, and i can tell you they made a good amount on the group buy, end of the day everyone is happy, just good to keep everyone informed in whats happening in the market place, and thats what these forums are for! cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maton Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 good money on the group buy? rubbish I saw the group buy price and you would be lucky to pick that price up anywhere. Why they would even sell it at that price is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norpus Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 hey before everyone goes jumping off the deep end i was keen on buying the unit but my house is around 2 months away from being built so didnt "really" need it now... so was at the local yamaha dealer and said im looking at buying the 2700... can u do it for $X price... he said "yeah i can do that, I sold 2 yesterday for only abit more" so i think the prices overall have dropped... he said the new model (2800B maybe) will be out in bout 5-6mths so that maybe the reason. Anyways Andrew well done for getting a good price for everyone.... all i wanted to say is that if you missed out you can still pick up a good deal. At the end of the day they are still making money... the guy even told me the cost price, and i can tell you they made a good amount on the group buy, end of the day everyone is happy, just good to keep everyone informed in whats happening in the market place, and thats what these forums are for! cheers! Fair enough. IMO, the more information contributed to the forum threads the better. Some information will be better than others, some may be mistakes or disinformation, probably rarely, and most is opinion. As readers, we should not believe evrything is real (esp the opinions) and must sift the wheat from the chaff. I don't believe for one second MrTypeR was trying to whiteant the GB, he was trying to contribute info he had to hand. I have no idea whether his information was correct or not, but would take it as one data point to be included or regarded as an outlyer (in statistical terms). In my experience, you make a judgement on outlyers based on their frequency (ie did anyone else corroborate similar info) and reasonableness. If only one outlyer, I would likely call it that and go with the larger data - in this case that the GB was indeed on the right path. So well done all, and enjoy your systems/movies with the new toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesty Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Fair enough.IMO, the more information contributed to the forum threads the better. Some information will be better than others, some may be mistakes or disinformation, probably rarely, and most is opinion. As readers, we should not believe evrything is real (esp the opinions) and must sift the wheat from the chaff. I don't believe for one second MrTypeR was trying to whiteant the GB, he was trying to contribute info he had to hand. I have no idea whether his information was correct or not, but would take it as one data point to be included or regarded as an outlyer (in statistical terms). In my experience, you make a judgement on outlyers based on their frequency (ie did anyone else corroborate similar info) and reasonableness. If only one outlyer, I would likely call it that and go with the larger data - in this case that the GB was indeed on the right path. So well done all, and enjoy your systems/movies with the new toy Agreed. I saw no issue with what MrTypeR was trying to say. Take or leave what he said. He was just putting his 2 cents in like all of us do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony123 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 good money on the group buy? rubbishI saw the group buy price and you would be lucky to pick that price up anywhere. Why they would even sell it at that price is beyond me Maton... trust me they are still making margins on the price... u think these selles are stupid and selling them at next to no margin... like i said he told me the cost price and if 10 people bought it at that grp buy price he would have made a nice little pile of cash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EZYHD Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I also know the price it was excellent. The thing I don't get is, one would think the Yammy dealers would not be to happy about this deal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewW Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 Agreed.I saw no issue with what MrTypeR was trying to say. Take or leave what he said. He was just putting his 2 cents in like all of us do. Except that he was casting dispersions on the price obtained in the group buy, after commiting to the group buy, then using that price to negotiate with his local dealer. Does anyone really think he would have got that price without using the Group Buy price as leverage ? To be honest, I didn't care so much about that, even though there was a risk that it could have ruined the GB for everyone involved (at that point I only had the minimum number of buyers required). But coming in after the fact and effectively saying "you wasted your time with the group buy, anyone can get the same price" is a bit rich. Can we please get this thread back on topic, if you want to discuss pricing for this product please go and start another thread. Cheers, Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maton Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Maton... trust me they are still making margins on the price... u think these selles are stupid and selling them at next to no margin... like i said he told me the cost price and if 10 people bought it at that grp buy price he would have made a nice little pile of cash! I dont deny the price they got was great but the fact remains the retailer makes stuff all out of it, even at a group buy there wasnt much in it, i know the cost price aswell. He made a small amount of money but compared to what he could/should of made its no comparison. well done to all that got it at that price, great receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewW Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 u think these selles are stupid and selling them at next to no margin... like i said he told me the cost price and if 10 people bought it at that grp buy price he would have made a nice little pile of cash! Good for him. Surely you the purpose of a retailer is to make money. The price that was negotiated for the group buy was considerably lower than the lowest price I had heard of anyone getting (and that price was as part of buying a package with a $4K plasma ...). The group buy allows the dealer to negotiate a discount with Yamaha for buying in bulk, and pass that discount on to the buyers. Everyone wins. Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewW Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 hey before everyone goes jumping off the deep end i was keen on buying the unit but my house is around 2 months away from being built so didnt "really" need it now... so was at the local yamaha dealer and said im looking at buying the 2700... can u do it for $X price... he said "yeah i can do that, I sold 2 yesterday for only abit more" so i think the prices overall have dropped... he said the new model (2800B maybe) will be out in bout 5-6mths so that maybe the reason. well that really doesn't gell with what you said to me when you pulled out of the group buy ... Hi Andrew... my local yamaha dealer said he can do it for $xxxx so im just gonna grab it there... saves me waiting on delivery etc.... thanks anyways for your help.... i think we have done well getting it at this price!! you need to get your stories straight ... Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony123 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 well for your info i pulled out at least 3 days before the deadline and im sure andrew had other people already lined up due to the demand.... I really dont understand why people are getting all funny over this geezz..... not once did i mention a grp buy price to my dealer... all i said can u do it for this price....(was actually waiting for him to say no i cant) but when he said yes he could then why would I a) wait for a product to be shipped from brisbane when im in melbourne and didnt really need it now anyways. and Andrew i commend u on getting a good price for the unit but all i was saying on these forums is that if anyone missed out then you will be able to get still get it at this good price..... im just helping everyone else on here.... I think everyone needs to take beather and move on.... and if anyone wants to know where u can get it at this good price pls message me... im sure the dealer would luv to move some more units... end of the day everyone wins otherwise i would say wait for the 2800B which he said will have HDMI v1.3 and most likely be more of a media centre with the ability to play video files over a network!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewW Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 well for your info i pulled out at least 3 days before the deadline and im sure andrew had other people already lined up due to the demand.... My last comments on this, I'm well and truly over it. You are making a very big assumption there. Actually, at the point that you pulled out, I only had the 5 people required confirmed, so for a day or so after I was actually one short of the required numbers. This was after I had confirmed with the dealer that the deal was good to go as we had the numbers. It all worked out fine in the end, we ended up with 10 buyers, but what would have happened if nobody else had come forward ? I would have had no problem with someone pulling out for financial reasons, but it seems a little selfish to jeopardise the entire GB for the sake of getting the unit a week earlier. Anyway, like I said, lets leave it at that, and hopefully the next post will be from a happy GB member saying they've received their new toy Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevyn72 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Don't know if this is what you were after but I'm begining to think I should have joined in after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony123 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 My last comments on this, I'm well and truly over it.You are making a very big assumption there. Actually, at the point that you pulled out, I only had the 5 people required confirmed, so for a day or so after I was actually one short of the required numbers. This was after I had confirmed with the dealer that the deal was good to go as we had the numbers. It all worked out fine in the end, we ended up with 10 buyers, but what would have happened if nobody else had come forward ? I would have had no problem with someone pulling out for financial reasons, but it seems a little selfish to jeopardise the entire GB for the sake of getting the unit a week earlier. Anyway, like I said, lets leave it at that, and hopefully the next post will be from a happy GB member saying they've received their new toy Andrew. i wouldn't have doubted u getting the required numbers.... theres been heaps of people after these units for awhile.... i was just stating as i've said before if you missed out you can get the deal by shopping around.... im not gonna go around hiding the fact that u can pick them up for $X price.... hey if i picked up a pana plasma for alot less than everyone else on here.... first thing i would do is tell everyone... if i can save people some bucks then its all good..... i didn't do anything wrong... if you can't get over it then thats your problem but hey life goes on enjoy your units guys and look fwd to hearing your reviews on them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesty Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Rather easy to say when you are not actually involved as I have stated earlier if the actions of this one person had caused us to lose out on the great price obtained then you might see it differently, yes he put his 2 cents in and also pulled it out.I believe if you say you are in then you don't go down the road and use it as a lever, I worked with Andrew on the price side of this and best prices I was seeing from specialists with numbers of 10 were approx 1900, so if one dealer went to water on our price that's his prerogative, all I am saying is next time a group buy comes around that I am involved in I would be looking more closely at names, and given some of the rhetoric bandied around when DJOS upset a few members of the JVC GB the reaction has been quite mild. As has been pointed out, we did end up getting the good price and we will shortly be enjoying our product, it is time to move on, lessons have been learnt and the sun will still come up tomorrow. I know this need not be carried on but.....fair enough. I dont even know why i am invlolved in this discussion anyway. If you are in your in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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