Does A List Existing Of Sets Capable Of Receiving 1080p

[chugs]

Ok i was hoping to find a list of plasma sets retailed in Australia that can receive a 1080p signal (prefably by HDMI) - be it a HD or SD set.

I am not fussed if the set can't display the signal (it'll obviously down convert).

So does such a list exist or can you guys help fill in the blanks?

[Owen]

What's wrong with 1080i input if you don’t mind the set down converting.

[metal beat]

All the new Hitachi plasma's except the 55 inch.

the expensive 50 inch pioneer and 65 inch Panasonic

[chugs]

What's wrong with 1080i input if you don’t mind the set down converting.

if you plug a 1080p device into a plasma set that can't accept a 1080p signal, in this case, the PS3 output at 480p.

I don't want that. I want the PS3 to output at 1080p, and the set, be it a SD or HD (i don't care), accept that signal and then down converting it to a res capable of being displayed on the screen...

[Owen]

I never said anything about 480p.

What’s wrong with 1080i or even 720p out of the PS3, of cant a PS3 output in those formats?

Are you are assuming 1080p with look better then 1080i?

Of just as much importance, what size display do you intend to purchase and how far away from the set will you be sitting.

[50mxe20]

I never said anything about 480p.

What's wrong with 1080i or even 720p out of the PS3, of cant a PS3 output in those formats?

Are you are assuming 1080p with look better then 1080i?

Of just as much importance, what size display do you intend to purchase and how far away from the set will you be sitting.

I know you like to educate but I'm surprised you even bother anymore. Guess it's a good thing!

[nis200979]

I know you like to educate but I'm surprised you even bother anymore. Guess it's a good thing!

From reading Chugs post I get the impression that he thinks PS3 will output only 1080p or 480p (and obviously some version of SD 480i), Is this true, I would think not?

I thought it would do 480i/p, 576i/p, 720p, and 1080i/p.

[chugs]

From reading Chugs post I get the impression that he thinks PS3 will output only 1080p or 480p (and obviously some version of SD 480i), Is this true, I would think not?

I thought it would do 480i/p, 576i/p, 720p, and 1080i/p.

I should have be more precise.

The PS3 will output at 720p & 1080i for movies and even some games.

When you're playing a 720p, or 1080p title (games) and your television set doesn't accept a 1080p signal the PS3 will default to 480p. It won't output at 1080i or 720p.

Recently Sony changed the console so it would output at the higher resolutions. That change is not retroactive so it means launch titles and anything just about to launch will default to 480p if your set can't take a 1080p signal.

Now you maybe asking; well chugs if your set doesn't take 1080p then why do you care. It'll take that 480p signal and scale it back up to 1080i. Well I guess I don't want that, it depends on the quality and capacity of the scalar. It'd be more expensive to get a scalar that did the job properly then if I just get set that will take a 1080p signal and display as much as it can....

The cheapest one I've found so far is a new Samsung but its ballpark is $3500 (approx) - out of my range unfortunately.

My search continues, maybe a CRT or projector out there is capable of receiving a 1080p signal?

(PS mods can you fix up the header for this thread to: Does a list existing of sets capable of receiving 1080p signal)

[AndrewWilliams]

If the PS3 can't output a 1080p game at 1080i or 720p, then that's a serious blunder on Sony's part. Either that or it's a desperate attempt to sell some of their 1080p Bravias. I very much doubt it would be the case though.

[captaineos]

Those hitachi plasma's are marketing crap - cashing in on the gold FULL HD logo that is now common on expensive sets.

You will find the Hitachi plasmas are 1024x1080! Industry spec is 1920x1080. 1080p is a short way of writing 1920x1080, and Hitachi are cashing in on that. Where are the rest of the 896 vertical pixels!~

[chugs]

If the PS3 can't output a 1080p game at 1080i or 720p, then that's a serious blunder on Sony's part. Either that or it's a desperate attempt to sell some of their 1080p Bravias. I very much doubt it would be the case though.

i think part of the problem is that in the US and other markets i'm sure they have access to a wider range of devices that can at least accept a 1080p signal....

it seems to me that in Australia despite 1080p being around nearly 2 years now that there is a serious hole in the line up of products.

as i've mentioned in the panasonic thread (see SDTV etc), even the 18k Pana plasma can't take a 1080p signal. Sure it might have the resolution to show it but whats the point. The HDMI input on the back can't, so its taking a lesser signal and then upscaling it to 1080p.

as someone mentioned for Hitachi a whole lot of companies are really taking us for a ride on this issue.

[Heiser202]

Thats just wrong. I have a friend who has a 50inch HD plasma and a ps3 and the games wont work on 1080i i agree but it does work on 720p.

If you are def after a 1080p screen, try teac. they have a 37 & 42 inch lcd. Hard to find though.

[metal beat]

Those hitachi plasma's are marketing crap - cashing in on the gold FULL HD logo that is now common on expensive sets.

You will find the Hitachi plasmas are 1024x1080! Industry spec is 1920x1080. 1080p is a short way of writing 1920x1080, and Hitachi are cashing in on that. Where are the rest of the 896 vertical pixels!~

I don't think Hitachi are advertising that their new panels are Full HD. They can however, unlike their 768 resolution competitors offer full 1080P resolution without the need for scaling or overscan and at 768 prices.

Their full 1920 x 1080 panels will be out later this year.

see attached and below

http://blog.homecinemachoice.com/page/home...troduce_full_hd

Hitachi to introduce Full HD plasma PVR TVs

Hitachi will upgrade its entire lineup of plasma TVs to 1080 resolution in 2007. The brand will launch a range of 1080 resolution plasmas in the Spring with Full HD models following in the Autumn. Speaking exclusively to Home Cinema Choice, Hitachi also revealed that its Full HD plasmas will feature integrated digital video recorders and a host of new picture processing technologies.

Due in the Autumn, the flagship X and XR series, available in 1920 x 1080 resolution, will ship in 42, 50 and 60in sizes. The larger two will sport 250GB hard drives, able to make recordings direct from a Freeview EPG. This built-in PVR (personal video recorder) allows the viewer to record one channel while watching another, comes with a 28-event timer and features audio playback of recordings during slow (x0.8) and fast (x1.5) trick replay.

The PVR plasmas can even have their recording capacity enlarged through slot-in iVDR (information Versatile Disk for Removable storage) drives. This removable caddy may become a common standard for all hard drives used with consumer electronics kit. Over 62 companies are members of the iVDR licensing group, including Canon, Pioneer, Samsung, Sharp and JVC.

The plasma trio will also be joined by the brand’s first Full HD 37in 1080p IPS Alpha LCD TV. All feature three HDMI inputs (two rear, one front-facing).

Preceding these models will be two more affordable 1080 interlaced plasmas. The T-series 42in and 50in models will feature 1024 x 1080 and 1280 x 1080 resolution respectively. According to Ikuo Yuki, Corporate officer and general manager of the brand’s product development division, its 1024 x 1080 resolution ALiS panel is a big improvement over rival 768 resolution WXGA versions as it allows an HD picture to be seen without scaling or overscan.

To make the most of its new high-res panels, Hitachi has developed a graphic engine to be known as Picture Master Full HD. This comprises a suite of processing refinements, including a 16-bit picture processor with colour management and contrast control and digital noise cancelling. The latter is able to reduce component dot noise and cross colour moiré patterning.