Tomsrockindad Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On the subject of 42" HD plasmas, I have a couple of questions:- - I have been quoted a price of $3,660 for a Pioneer PDP-427XDA by JB Hi Fi in North Ryde. It was the most expensive among four 42" sets (the others being Panasonic, Samsung and Hitachi), but was also a clear winner to my eyes. Has anyone seen a better price, or does this look competitive? - One of the reasons for the hefty Pioneer price premium over the others (Panasonic was around $2,500) is the 5 yr warranty included with the Pioneer. To bring other sets into line with Pioneer, JBH are quoting around $600 for warranty extensions to 5 yrs. Do people think this is worth having or would the view be that current generation plasmas are pretty reliable and one would be better off keeping the $600 in their pockets? JBH advised that the problem with plasmas is that if something goes wrong they are generally very expensive to carry out any sort of repair on. I certainly like the Pioneer although the $1,100 price premium is enough to give pause. But it might be worth it in the long run given the evident quality of the product and the warranty included (not to mention delivery and "installation"). I am a newcomer to all this so experience and opinions would be gratefully received! Ian.
ton Posted March 9, 2007 Posted March 9, 2007 Buy it....thats the best plasma at the best price i have ever heard of..There is this link but its a online price http://www.uslbankstown.com.au/product_inf...;products_id=47 Or read this link l http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtop...2013&st=220
Tomsrockindad Posted March 10, 2007 Author Posted March 10, 2007 Buy it....thats the best plasma at the best price i have ever heard of..There is this link but its a online price http://www.uslbankstown.com.au/product_inf...;products_id=47Or read this link l http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtop...2013&st=220 Many thanks, Ton. I viewed those links, which were interesting. You didn't mention the 5 year warranty, but I guess the usual irony applies, ie the rule that they who offer or include such a thing in the pricing of their product are most likely those whose product least needs it! Now if only I could get the CEO over the line on the 50" unit.... Any other opinions on the Pioneer, or the question of the (expensive) 5 year warranty? Ian.
Cooksta59 Posted March 10, 2007 Posted March 10, 2007 You didn't mention the 5 year warranty, but I guess the usual irony applies, ie the rule that they who offer or include such a thing in the pricing of their product are most likely those whose product least needs it!Now if only I could get the CEO over the line on the 50" unit.... Any other opinions on the Pioneer, or the question of the (expensive) 5 year warranty? Ian. If the pioneer look best to your eyes then thats what you should buy; our eyes are the best judge we have. The pioneer is a very good unit, would be very happy with it (I have panasonic and would buy that brand again). The 5 year warranty is expensive from what I have read, you should also see the panasonic price thread http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=22471 which gives warranty prices as well.The 5 year warranty is worth it in my opinion.If by chance something major goes wrong they can be very expensive to fix. Oh....and if you are tossing up between the 42 or 50 inch; get the 50 you wont be sorry.
Tomsrockindad Posted March 10, 2007 Author Posted March 10, 2007 Oh....and if you are tossing up between the 42 or 50 inch; get the 50 you wont be sorry. Thanks, Cooksta, for the confirmatory advice. Oh...the 50"....mmm, would love it. Unfortunately the missus is barely accepting of a 42" and I fear that in pressing for an even bigger device I am at dire risk of losing the moment...! Ian.
ton Posted March 10, 2007 Posted March 10, 2007 [Gday Ian Sorry was in a rush before..Yes extended warenty is a problem and these things are normally ok but i have just been throu the same delema and panasonic looked good but pioneer looked best and there is over a grand differance but when you put the extended warenty into it the price gap narrows..Do you feel lucky as you could save the grand and go with panasonic but if something happens these tv are expencive and hard to move.So you could be lucky personally i thought these extended warentys were a way for the salesmen to make a bit of extra cash but for peace of mind i looked at both decided the pioneer was a bit more but when you compare the extras the gap becomes so small i went pioneer..there are different warentys too but the pioneer is in home and if they have to take it away they give you replacment and your warenty is with pioneer when you buy a extended warenty at the shop on eg the panasonic WHO is looking after you i am not sure i have read hear of people who have had to take there tv to a shop and wait a month so one 5 year warenty say bought from the tv seller maybe not the same as one that comes from the manifacturer something you can look into who is giving the extended warrenty on the panasonic and what does it cover [eg] transport replacment loan tv ect i would be interested let me know
whiteknightoz Posted March 10, 2007 Posted March 10, 2007 50" Pioneer here for $3,300 only 2 left though.. and they dont freight Link is huge not sure how to shorten it - damn trading post ! http://www.tradingpost.com.au/iteminfo/adn...26+VCR+Players_
Tomsrockindad Posted March 10, 2007 Author Posted March 10, 2007 50" Pioneer here for $3,300 only 2 left though.. and they dont freight Link is huge not sure how to shorten it - damn trading post ! http://www.tradingpost.com.au/iteminfo/adn...26+VCR+Players_ Bloody Hell!!! Must be old stock? The link didn't work by the way - may be out of date. Ton - thanks for those thoughts. Same sorts of things went through my head. Look, in the end I decided that I'd strike before the board decision expired. Took the CEO to conduct viewings and, much to my amazement, she immeditely picked the Pioneer as the stand out. Always knew my beloved was at least as discerning as I. So we took the plunge. An extremely personable young man by the name of Junayed, of JB Hi Fi North Ryde, conducted the sale and I do believe he was haemorrhaging from the ears as, thoroughly defeated by the fearsome onslaught from myself and my wife, he finally agreed to $3,600 for the Pioneer, and only threw in the DVD ("Sixth Sense") as demanded by Susan, when he thought it would finally get rid of us. Game lad though - after picking himself up and dusting himself down he tried to sell us a Blue Ray player... So there we have it, a Pioneer PDP427XDA for $3,600 from JB HiFi, North Ryde. As for Junayed? Well, the bruises will disappear in time...as for the mind? That might take a little longer. Ian.
ton Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 Gday Ian Good choice great price that's the best price i have heard of someone actually buying a TV for,,, a lot of prices get thrown around on this thread and even if you can get the link to work its old stock or a overseas model..Would still like to find out about the warranty's sold in shops but i am pretty sure they are return to base warranty's i think you are better to deal with the manufacturer.I needed a new TV a few weeks ago after reading this forum was convinced i needed a lcd as i have a back room that is like a glass house so headed to the shops wandered around but always found myself staring at the pioneer Panasonic looked good if i was on a budget panasonic would be my second choice but Panasonic plus delivery plus extended warranty and we were back close to the pioneer and i payed $3800 so pioneer is best..What did you think of the lcds they sounded great reading about them and a lot of the guys hear love them but personally i did not like them cheers ton
Tomsrockindad Posted March 11, 2007 Author Posted March 11, 2007 What did you think of the lcds they sounded great reading about them and a lot of the guys hear love them but personally i did not like them cheers ton The 1080p LCDs look amazing when you are feeding them with the very best hi-def signal, eg Blue Ray (and so long as the picture is not one displaying excessive movement). But even then I'd argue plasma (even lowly old 720p) looks better. And when its a slightly lower res' pictue, or standard def' - ie the real present world - there is no contest; plasma by a mile. No doubt the gap will close in the future, but then improvements are being made to plasma as well. As for the Pioneer warranty, I asked about this and was advised it is an "on-site" warranty, ie they come to you. The circumstances under which a panel is replaced rather than repaired is not clear. Also, "on site" presumably just means if the defect means it requires to be taken away, then they take it away and you are simply saved the aggro of transportation. Now that I've been through the buying process, I would recommend people to do as I did and take along a couple of DVDs representative of the stuff they currently watch and use that material as a basis for judging the panels. Certainly do not pay any attention to the stuff the showroom uses to show off their wares. I must say JBH were brilliant in that regard - Junayed could not have been more helpful. Ian.
dB10 Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 i have the 427 almost a month already and am happy to say that it is an expense worth over its rivals...i cant wait until HD players prices drop so i can get one and see how this baby will go!
nickcic Posted March 12, 2007 Posted March 12, 2007 Got mine for $3683, here in perth. Had it a week, very happy with it. Customer service is great. Going to wait 6 weeks before i get it ISF calibrated.
Tomsrockindad Posted March 12, 2007 Author Posted March 12, 2007 Got mine for $3683, here in perth.Had it a week, very happy with it. Customer service is great. Going to wait 6 weeks before i get it ISF calibrated. Er, what is "ISF" calibration? You mean it's not simply a matter of turning the brightness, contrast and colour knobs?!
50mxe20 Posted March 12, 2007 Posted March 12, 2007 Got mine for $3683, here in perth.Had it a week, very happy with it. Customer service is great. Going to wait 6 weeks before i get it ISF calibrated. Didn't Pioneer calibrate it when it was delivered? That is an ISF calibration.
nickcic Posted March 12, 2007 Posted March 12, 2007 Didn't Pioneer calibrate it when it was delivered? That is an ISF calibration. Pioneer install it, basic colour, contrast etc. ISF calibrate it, hook it up to a computer, bring it down to 6500 Kelvin, create day & night settings etc.
50mxe20 Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Pioneer install it, basic colour, contrast etc.ISF calibrate it, hook it up to a computer, bring it down to 6500 Kelvin, create day & night settings etc. ??? - I was told that when I get mine delivered it will be calibrated with an ISF calibration.
Tomsrockindad Posted March 13, 2007 Author Posted March 13, 2007 ??? - I was told that when I get mine delivered it will be calibrated with an ISF calibration. Lyle, When I ordered my set last Saturday, although I had no idea what an ISF calibration was (and still don't), the understanding I gained about the included "installation" was pretty much as described by nickcic. If you get this extra service, that's great - let us know! Ian
50mxe20 Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Lyle, When I ordered my set last Saturday, although I had no idea what an ISF calibration was (and still don't), the understanding I gained about the included "installation" was pretty much as described by nickcic. If you get this extra service, that's great - let us know! Ian Will do.
Niko78 Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Hi, I got mine $3500 from JB, just need to wait for delivery from Pioneer. Do you really need to get it ISF calibrated?
50mxe20 Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Hi, I got mine $3500 from JB, just need to wait for delivery from Pioneer.Do you really need to get it ISF calibrated? That's a bit of an unknown. Many people don't because it costs money (usually). Those that have had it done swear by it. Isf Calibration On Pioneer 507
Niko78 Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 That's a bit of an unknown. Many people don't because it costs money (usually). Those that have had it done swear by it. Well if anyone in this forum has had it done on the Pioneer 427XDA. Can they post the settings What's the usual cost of getting this done professionally?
Tomsrockindad Posted March 13, 2007 Author Posted March 13, 2007 Hi, I got mine $3500 from JB, just need to wait for delivery from Pioneer.Do you really need to get it ISF calibrated? Niko, $3,500?! Er, which JBH store are we talking here? I know there's nothing I can do but I just can't help agonising... Ian
brendancal Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Hi, I got mine $3500 from JB, just need to wait for delivery from Pioneer.Do you really need to get it ISF calibrated? Can I ask which JB was selling the Pioneer for $3500?
Niko78 Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Can I ask which JB was selling the Pioneer for $3500? HN & Clive Peters could match that price, you just need to play hardball with them. Shop around first and don't commit to anything unless they offer it to you at a cheap price. The only reason I got it from JB was I got the sony 1200ES for $650.
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