Ntsc And Pal Versions Of Hd-dvd?

[Anton-P.]

Do such things exist, an NTSC version and a PAL version of HD-dvd?

And incidentally, does the Toshiba HD-A1 play both NTSC and PAL sd-dvds? Thanks.

[momaw]

why does this need it's own thread when it has been thrashed to death and a simpe search could have revealed that?

No and No

[Anton-P.]

why does this need it's own thread when it has been thrashed to death and a simpe search could have revealed that?

No and No

Thanks.

Your answers No and No would have taken just a few seconds.

My search would have taken a lot more time and wasted net traffic.

If you accuse a new thread as waste of bandwidth then excuse me ... compare it with how much bandwidth is daily wasted on small chits chats here, do you worry about that, haven't you participated in that?

Please keep things in perspective.

[Hydrology]

Thanks.

Your answers No and No would have taken just a few seconds.

My search would have taken a lot more time and wasted net traffic.

If you accuse a new thread as waste of bandwidth then excuse me ... compare it with how much bandwidth is daily wasted on small chits chats here, do you worry about that, haven't you participated in that?

Please keep things in perspective.

I'm sorry, but your "rant" just defeated your "point".

Momaw is right, use the search, or God forbid, the rest of the internet.

Be grateful he at least answered your question.

[AndrewW]

My search would have taken a lot more time and wasted net traffic.

LOL, make sure you don't break the internet with your next search

Andrew.

[Chesty]

Are we not being a little tough on him here?

Yes he could of did a little work and searched for it but he did not. I dont think getting stuck into people for this sort of thing is really the right way to go about it. If you done want to answer his question then dont.

[Anton-P.]

I've just tested a search on "hd-dvd ntsc", it came up with 40 threads with average around 100 replies each. That's 4,000 replies I would've had to wade thru.

Compare that to my posting a 2-line question and get simple No & No answers, I ask you to be true and say which is the more efficient use of this forum and its good people?!!

Momaw provided the answers and I did thank him for that, but no thanks from me for the other part.

[ajm1503559545]

I get your point.

And the thing is I could also trawl through 1000's and 1000's of posts to work out who's prepared to use their own efforts to find things who the slack ar$es are who'd rather drop in to add yet another thread of the same damn thing then leave.

Thread like this mean I don't need to.

Cheers

[WayneB]

In a matter of fact there are PAL and NTSC HD-DVD's.

The commercial HD-DVD are all 1920x1080 24fps (hence no PAL or NTSC).

But in Ulead DVD Movie Factory you can create a PAL HD-DVD 1920x1080 25fps or a NTSC HD-DVD 1920x1080 29.97fps.

I created a PAL HD-DVD 1920x1080 25fps in Ulead DVD Movie Factory on a normal 4.7GB DVD-R and it did play on the HD-A1.

Have not tried NTSC HD-DVD yet.

Wayne

[Skid_MacMarx]

No and No

So the locally released HD-DVD players do not play Region 4 SD PAL DVDs..

thats interesting..

[AndrewW]

So the locally released HD-DVD players do not play Region 4 SD PAL DVDs..

thats interesting..

That's not an HD-A1, it's an HD-E1.

Andrew.

[momaw]

If you accuse a new thread as waste of bandwidth then excuse me ... compare it with how much bandwidth is daily wasted on small chits chats here, do you worry about that, haven't you participated in that?

I didn't accuse it of being a waste of bandwidth, just a question that with 5 minutes effort you could have answered. But since you were too lazy and apathetic I answered it for you.

What future do with have with people too lazy to seek information available and expect it be handed to them.

This forum is a great resource with people prepared to put their experience, knowledge and in some cases expertise up for anyone to access. Abuse it and those people sick of answering the same question over and over again will leave and then where will you get your instant gratification? Actually, don't answer that. I live in Canberra so can picture it for myself

There are many existing threads you could have asked you question in if you felt it was too much effort.

[momaw]

In a matter of fact there are PAL and NTSC HD-DVD's.

The commercial HD-DVD are all 1920x1080 24fps (hence no PAL or NTSC).

But in Ulead DVD Movie Factory you can create a PAL HD-DVD 1920x1080 25fps or a NTSC HD-DVD 1920x1080 29.97fps.

I created a PAL HD-DVD 1920x1080 25fps in Ulead DVD Movie Factory on a normal 4.7GB DVD-R and it did play on the HD-A1.

Have not tried NTSC HD-DVD yet.

Wayne

Um, how is that relevant. That is not a "HD DVD" but a home made movie at the resolution you stated. It is not a commercially available disc. Your post is completely irrelevant and only adds to confusion.

[betty boop]

So the locally released HD-DVD players do not play Region 4 SD PAL DVDs..

thats interesting..

local hd-dvd players will play play region 4 pal DVDs. they'll play ntsc dvds as well as long as region 4 or world zone. what they wont play are discs that are not region four or world zone.

[Hydrology]

Are we not being a little tough on him here?

Yes he could of did a little work and searched for it but he did not. I dont think getting stuck into people for this sort of thing is really the right way to go about it. If you done want to answer his question then dont.

Considering he didnt bother searching...

"My search would have taken a lot more time and wasted net traffic."

means he had it coming. Ironically he put the time and effort to search AFTER getting a bollocking. Go figure.

[kootaberra]

why does this need it's own thread when it has been thrashed to death and a simpe search could have revealed that?

No and No

Maybe you need a 'bollocking'. The person asked an honest question and got a very rude answer. Maybe they didn't know how to search for what you came up with your superior brain.

This forum should be about helping each other when asked legit questions. I would hate to be your spouse, kids or have you as a boss. It would be a bit like Fawlty Towers.

Do such things exist, an NTSC version and a PAL version of HD-dvd?

And incidentally, does the Toshiba HD-A1 play both NTSC and PAL sd-dvds? Thanks.

Technically in HD land there is no PAL or NTSC. There are 50 and 60 Hz versions or outputs. Then the frame rate can also vary. The old 'its 25 frames, it must be PAL' is no longer true.

PAL and NTSC refer to an analogue signal, which has the colour and luminance multiplexed on a single signal or wire. As soon as you go digital (even SD) the signal is no longer PAL or NTSC. But the digital player can have a digital to analogue converter and output a PAL or NTSC signal.

Hope that helps.

[MELso]

Something to add to your sticky momaw?

[MeWhoElse]

Yeah... Playback capabilities for the sticky...

BTW, PAL and NTSC are also colour spaces...

YUV (1 Lumanance 2 chromanance) for PAL and YIQ (hard to sumarize, google it, "No Two Similar Colors?") for NTSC... So considering most modern digital compression is using YUV (digital, or YCbCr(digital)/YPbPr(Analogue)), HD DVD and Blu-ray is partially PAL LOL...

Damn muddy waters!!!

[Hydrology]

Maybe you need a 'bollocking'. The person asked an honest question and got a very rude answer. Maybe they didn't know how to search for what you came up with your superior brain.

This forum should be about helping each other when asked legit questions. I would hate to be your spouse, kids or have you as a boss. It would be a bit like Fawlty Towers.

Read the thread properly, he obviously knows how to search. Interesting observation - complain about rude people by saying something equally rude yourself.

[mrmaxwell1503559518]

Bloody hell some of you ppl in here act like $20 comes out of your bank account everytime you answer a post!

What's the big deal? This is an open forum where ppl are free to pretty much post what they want as long as it sticks to subject matter. Just take 3 seconds to help the guy and move on - do to others I say.

I'd love to run into you in the street and ask for the time - I guess you'd reply "Mate don't you know there is a clock 300 metres down the road why don't you go check it out before asking me to waste my time by looking at my watch for you!"

Nasty....

[ajm1503559545]

Bloody hell some of you ppl in here act like $20 comes out of your bank account everytime you answer a post!

What's the big deal? This is an open forum where ppl are free to pretty much post what they want as long as it sticks to subject matter. Just take 3 seconds to help the guy and move on - do to others I say.

I'd love to run into you in the street and ask for the time - I guess you'd reply "Mate don't you know there is a clock 300 metres down the road why don't you go check it out before asking me to waste my time by looking at my watch for you!"

Nasty....

When the forum is made up of the same damn threads with the same damn question over and over and over simply because people are too damn lazy to look it up themselves it just clogs the section up.

There's just no excuse for waisting time and space just so someone doesn't have to extend themselves a little.

The analogy would apply if the guy asking for the time had a watch on his wrist and was to bloody lazy to turn his wrist himself.

Guess I just hates lazy more than I hates blunt.

[ozcal]

When the forum is made up of the same damn threads with the same damn question over and over and over simply because people are too damn lazy to look it up themselves it just clogs the section up.

There's just no excuse for waisting time and space just so someone doesn't have to extend themselves a little.

The analogy would apply if the guy asking for the time had a watch on his wrist and was to bloody lazy to turn his wrist himself.

Guess I just hates lazy more than I hates blunt.

Geez guys , getting a wee bit precious aren't we? If some one asks a question that has been asked many times before and this annoys you then just don't answer or better still do what Lyle has done for many years over in the HT forum a politely point them to the search engine.I did the search and as the op said it brings up a huge number of threads without a clear cut answer.Some folk are getting a bit too carried away with themselves from where I sit and I say that in a caring and sharing sort of way .

Gordon

[Hydrology]

Bloody hell some of you ppl in here act like $20 comes out of your bank account everytime you answer a post!

What's the big deal? This is an open forum where ppl are free to pretty much post what they want as long as it sticks to subject matter. Just take 3 seconds to help the guy and move on - do to others I say.

I'd love to run into you in the street and ask for the time - I guess you'd reply "Mate don't you know there is a clock 300 metres down the road why don't you go check it out before asking me to waste my time by looking at my watch for you!"

Nasty....

There is etiquette to adhere to on this forum, which is why momaw made the comments. And despite all that, momaw DID answer the questions asked anyway. Move on please.

Geez guys , getting a wee bit precious aren't we? If some one asks a question that has been asked many times before and this annoys you then just don't answer or better still do what Lyle has done for many years over in the HT forum a politely point them to the search engine.I did the search and as the op said it brings up a huge number of threads without a clear cut answer.Some folk are getting a bit too carried away with themselves from where I sit and I say that in a caring and sharing sort of way .

Gordon

Good diplomatic answer Gordon! I will copy link to search in the future.

[50mxe20]

Geez guys , getting a wee bit precious aren't we? If some one asks a question that has been asked many times before and this annoys you then just don't answer or better still do what Lyle has done for many years over in the HT forum a politely point them to the search engine.I did the search and as the op said it brings up a huge number of threads without a clear cut answer.Some folk are getting a bit too carried away with themselves from where I sit and I say that in a caring and sharing sort of way .

Gordon

Quote from Cannife (Feb 10, 2006) follows:

Yes, I'm seeing a bit of the boys club syndrome also. Basically guys, learn to understand that people won't use search. I can FORCE them into it by a redirect, but they won't use it. By creating FAQs, you help minimise the volume. However, ppl will still post questions that annoy you. You do not have the right however to make a mockery of them or reply with unhelpful "Use the search" replies.

What you can do, is educate them.

'Your answer is here: <link to thread>. In future, you can find the same information by using the search facility with a phrase like "wintel pvr blurry"'

Which for a lot of you, won't take that much longer to type.

[Hydrology]

Quote from Cannife (Feb 10, 2006) follows:

Which basically means the person who replies to the thread is expected to do all the hard work for the lazy so and so?

Stupid rule.