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*puts super selfish hat on*

I would rather the format I bought win, failing that both formats surviving and co-existing.

Failing that the other format graciously swapping all my discs to their format.

:D

Of course whichever format you choose, that will be the loser.

but dont you see momaw that you are falling exactly for the fomats pushers hype as theyd want you too.

Do you own a apple mac or an pc ?. do you have a need for one or the other to 'win' ?

why should there be a loser ?

I have a sacd player for instance, own sacds, dont really give a rats about dvda and completely comfortable if somone else might be into dvda instead. dont have an expectation that one will win over the other.

Same with vinyl. supposedly died years ago. did cd win over it ? dont know. know plenty of people into audio who buy vinyl. I bought more vinyl this last week than cd ? :blink: though this is probably out of hte ordinary for me. dont expect vinyl to 'lose' anytime soon or dissapear off the face of the earth...

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I bought more vinyl this last week than cd ? :blink: though this is probably out of hte ordinary for me. dont expect vinyl to 'lose' anytime soon or dissapear off the face of the earth...

Can't download vinyl online that's for sure, copy protection was never an issue before :D

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but dont you see momaw that you are falling exactly for the fomats pushers hype as theyd want you too.

Do you own a apple mac or an pc ?. do you have a need for one or the other to 'win' ?

why should there be a loser ?

I have a sacd player for instance, own sacds, dont really give a rats about dvda and completely comfortable if somone else might be into dvda instead. dont have an expectation that one will win over the other.

Same with vinyl. supposedly died years ago. did cd win over it ? dont know. know plenty of people into audio who buy vinyl. I bought more vinyl this last week than cd ? :blink: though this is probably out of hte ordinary for me. dont expect vinyl to 'lose' anytime soon or dissapear off the face of the earth...

Yes, I *need* mine to win. Then I don't *need* to buy another player to have access to all films.

I see where you are heading with the analogies, but I want access to the same content SD has on HD. For this to happen either one format has to win, or I need to buy two players. My preference is one player - hence my first statement, but I will accept having two - hence my second statement. What I don't want is a player with no new stuff coming for it because it lost - hence my third statement.

Of course I am *this* close to importing a PS3 so expect option 1 to disappear and me to support a co-existence stance more heavily :P

PS since apple sold out to intel, it is a PC now :D They need to change that add campaign :P

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Yes, I *need* mine to win. Then I don't *need* to buy another player to have access to all films.

I see where you are heading with the analogies, but I want access to the same content SD has on HD. For this to happen either one format has to win, or I need to buy two players. My preference is one player - hence my first statement, but I will accept having two - hence my second statement. What I don't want is a player with no new stuff coming for it because it lost - hence my third statement.

Of course I am *this* close to importing a PS3 so expect option 1 to disappear and me to support a co-existence stance more heavily :D

PS since apple sold out to intel, it is a PC now :blink: They need to change that add campaign :P

Personally im happy to have both players.

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Is the only winning move not to play?

and for many it might just be...

the format pushers creating this war and telling us one must loose will only scare people off thinking why invest in not only new equipment but new discs as well if they could go belly up. These people will jsut sit back and wait ofr the dust settle and keep using dvd in the mean time.

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Once the formats become PC based then neither format will fail and it is probable that that is where dual format player/burners will first become established through Ricoh technology.

* It may old news but it is still a future development.

Ricoh laser head reads/writes HD DVD and Blu-ray discs

Posted Jul 8th 2006 9:43PM by Richard Lawler

Filed under: Industry, Sony, Toshiba

diffraction gratingsWhile there is still doubt over if or when a Blu-ray and HD DVD capable drive will be available, Ricoh has created a single laser that is able to read discs in either format. Their new component will be able to read and write to Blu-ray, HD DVD, DVD and CD with one pickup and one objective lens. The 3.5-mm diameter, 1-mm thick round diffraction plate detects what kind of disc has been inserted, and adjusts to change the laser beam as necessary for the format. They'll be showing off the tech later this week at the International Optoelectronics Exhibition '06 in Japan.

While both formats use blue lasers they record at different distances and widths, a single head that overcomes those differences could make a dual-format player cheaper and a more realistic possibility if licensing fees and agreements don't get in the way. Ricoh certainly doesn't think they will, saying this technology will "make it possible to build players and recorders for all formats which benefits consumers". That's the triple truth, although if this coming technology at all influenced Toshiba's conciliatory remarks recently is unknown.

They see this technology becoming commercially available by the end of this year. It will only be available for playback devices initially, as a higher powered laser is needed for recording. Those of us waiting for a relatively inexpensive solution to the high definition format war will be waiting just a bit longer.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/07/08/ricoh...-blu-ray-discs/

C.M

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