Guest Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Wonder if this helps or hinders the HD DVD group, certainly it must raise some awareness but is it good in the long run for the format http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/8534.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelz Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 I was on the sly soft forum yesterday and noticed that,they dont muck around at sly soft,if its half as good as there any dvd and clone dvd software it will be great.Altho james says that his trials so far let him rip hd to his hard drive and then watch on computer not actually then burn to disc. http://forum.slysoft.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c912039 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Wont this make them even bigger targets for the MPAA to shoot down? Im surprised they have lasted this long as a commercial company selling software for 'anti-DRM'/'fair-use' technology (take your pick). Regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelz Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 just a bit more from james, No. Decrypting isn't everything AnyDVD does. And if you ever watched a HD DVD disc, you really want the "skip FBI warning and other bullshit" option.Some HD DVDs don't even play on PC players, because of wrong parental settings and bugs in the player software. I am currently learning how navigation works on HD DVDs, so Blu-Ray support may be added when AnyDVD HD is finished. Or Blu-Ray support won't be added at all. I don't know yet. AnyDVD HD is currently a program to "watch high definition discs on a PC", not to make backups. Where would you make them? On writable media more expensive than a second original disc? With AnyDVD HD you will be able to watch HD DVDs without a new HDCP capable graphics card and a new HDCP capable monitor. " It hasn't been relead yet, yes.But it is working well enough to watch HD DVDs on an Apple Cinema Display (via DVI, without HDCP) with the XBOX360 HD DVD drive Wont this make them even bigger targets for the MPAA to shoot down?Im surprised they have lasted this long as a commercial company selling software for 'anti-DRM'/'fair-use' technology (take your pick). Regards David David I think its because their based in Antigua which dosent have copywrite laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momaw Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Personally, anything that drives the uptake of HD-DVD at present to me is a good thing. I used to think "cracking" of titles would lead to harm, but really the more players out there, the more software sales there are and the more likely for hold-out studios to start missing revenue and decide that neutral is the best financial decision to make. It is not financially viable for individual consumers to copy discs at present (and by the time it is, the war will be long over with either a winner or peaceful co-existance), but if they see the format as more user friendly to them because of these tools then they will buy the players. The only way they can get software for it is to buy or rent it. If they buy, great, more sales, more exposure, more reason for holdouts to want in on the action. If they rent, then higher demand, rental places have to buy more discs, holdout companies want in on this action (especially since I believe in the US they get a royalty every time the disc is rented from big companies like Quickflix). the download scene is not going to boom or dwindle due to DRM. It will always be there. In fact most downloader’s do it for convenience rather than quality and can't be jacked downloading 30 gig when a 750mb divx is available. Those that choose the 30 gig are in a small minority and even with download speeds increasing they are still going to be the minority for a long time. Just my 2cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c912039 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 ...the download scene is not going to boom or dwindle due to DRM. It will always be there. In fact most downloader’s do it for convenience rather than quality and can't be jacked downloading 30 gig when a 750mb divx is available. Those that choose the 30 gig are in a small minority and even with download speeds increasing they are still going to be the minority for a long time. Just my 2cents My ISP currrently charges $79 per month for 40Gig download - so assuming someone used all their alloted allowance to download 2 HD movies (assuming 20 Gig each), it would be cheaper just to buy the disks. Hopefully, this will deter most from downloading, as this has a potential to harm HD-DVD sales. Backing up HD-DVDs that you have bought and own, shouldnt hurt the HD-DVD market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewW Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 My ISP currrently charges $79 per month for 40Gig download - so assuming someone used all their alloted allowance to download 2 HD movies (assuming 20 Gig each), it would be cheaper just to buy the disks.Hopefully, this will deter most from downloading, as this has a potential to harm HD-DVD sales. Backing up HD-DVDs that you have bought and own, shouldnt hurt the HD-DVD market. welcome to the broadband backwater that is Australia My mate lives in Japan, every apartment in his apartment block was prewired with Fibre to the Home when they were built and he gets unlimted 10Mbps (actually its faster than that I just can't remember how fast) internet for about $30/mth ... Even still I agree with momaw, this will actually be a good thing for HD DVD as it will drive sales of both drives and media. Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c912039 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 ...Even still I agree with momaw, this will actually be a good thing for HD DVD as it will drive sales of both drives and media. Andrew. Can you buy the drives in Australia yet? Are there any graphics cards that will let you output 1080p @ 24fps? Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momaw Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Can you buy the drives in Australia yet?Are there any graphics cards that will let you output 1080p @ 24fps? Regards well according to this thread it was supposed to be out yesterday. Andrew has successfully ripped a few HD-DVD's to his harddrive. He still had to buy/rent them to get that result, so still a bonus to the format for sales. welcome to the broadband backwater that is Australia My mate lives in Japan, every apartment in his apartment block was prewired with Fibre to the Home when they were built and he gets unlimted 10Mbps (actually its faster than that I just can't remember how fast) internet for about $30/mth ... Even still I agree with momaw, this will actually be a good thing for HD DVD as it will drive sales of both drives and media. Andrew. Yes our internet situation is poor, but even if we could download them easily, blank disc costs are twice the pre-recorded cost and not many have their PC situated in a way to make watching the downloaded version as good as watching a pre-recorded version form a player. Nor do many of those that do have a pc set up for this have the hardware in it to do advanced stuff like the audio. It will still be a few years before copying HD content either BD or HD DVD is an activity that the masses (or even most enthusiests) adopt. Thats without even considering the burner side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c912039 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 well according to this thread it was supposed to be out yesterday. Andrew has successfully ripped a few HD-DVD's to his harddrive. He still had to buy/rent them to get that result, so still a bonus to the format for sales.Yes our internet situation is poor, but even if we could download them easily, blank disc costs are twice the pre-recorded cost and not many have their PC situated in a way to make watching the downloaded version as good as watching a pre-recorded version form a player. Nor do many of those that do have a pc set up for this have the hardware in it to do advanced stuff like the audio. It will still be a few years before copying HD content either BD or HD DVD is an activity that the masses adopt. Thats without even considering the burner side of things. Thanks, Im wondering whether I maight be able to play HD-DVD disks on one of those XBox360 HD-DVD drives thru my video card in my HTPC, using this AnyDVD-HD product (when it comes out) to negate the issue of a non-HDCP compliant video card. Whislt I have no problems with buying HD-DVD disks (although I wont be able to buy at the same rate as Ive bought SD DVD's in the past - It will be many years before I can pick up 'ex-rental' HD-DVDs cheap ), Im still reluctant to shell out big money on a player that might have a very limited lifespan (compared to say a hybrid HD-DVD/BD player, if the format wars continue). Having said that, Im looking at getting 1080p @ 24 fps out of any player (HTPC or standalone HD-DVD player), and Im not sure what HTPC video card could do that. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweet Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 When considering the manufacturing costs of dual layer HD DVD disc approximates that of a standard DVD (12 cents +packaging and handling) I can hardly imagine the studios being overly concerned considering the enormous profits that future sales will generate. It is in their interests at this time not to overreact to claims of decrypting content as it may well curtail the uptake of the format. When one considers how long it takes to copy a standard DVD ,few people would be patient enough to copy 25 gig or more unless they did it overnight, even then it would want to be a great movie. C.M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD1503559705 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Are there any graphics cards that will let you output 1080p @ 24fps? I think the application will be to output 48Hz or 72Hz from a graphics card for display on a monitor that will accept it. Whilst 48Hz is possibly not supported by many graphics cards, 72Hz should be. I believe most graphics cards from the humble Radeon 7000 upwards should be capable of outputting 1920x1440p72. I've recently obtained 1920x1440p75 playback of HD-DVD material with an ATI X300 via VGA with PDVD 6.5 and it looks real nice. However PDVD 6.5 is the only PDVD software which will play HD-DVD with the X300: PDVD 7.1 produces venetian blinds with this graphics card. I understand now that at least an X1600 with HDCP (or Nvidia equivalent) is required for PDVD 7.1 to work. I might try a Radeon 7000 to see if that works too. However, I'm having difficulty getting 72Hz at any HD resolution (except 1280x960p): only 70Hz or 75Hz seem to be available no matter what I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c912039 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 I think the application will be to output 48Hz or 72Hz from a graphics card for display on a monitor that will accept it. Whilst 48Hz is possibly not supported by many graphics cards, 72Hz should be. I believe most graphics cards from the humble Radeon 7000 upwards should be capable of outputting 1920x1440p72.I've recently obtained 1920x1440p75 playback of HD-DVD material with an ATI X300 via VGA with PDVD 6.5 and it looks real nice. However PDVD 6.5 is the only PDVD software which will play HD-DVD with the X300: PDVD 7.1 produces venetian blinds with this graphics card. I understand now that at least an X1600 with HDCP (or Nvidia equivalent) is required for PDVD 7.1 to work. I might try a Radeon 7000 to see if that works too. However, I'm having difficulty getting 72Hz at any HD resolution (except 1280x960p): only 70Hz or 75Hz seem to be available no matter what I do. The JVC HD1 projector only accepts 1080/24p 1080/50p and 1080/60p , hence my interest in finding out if 24p can be handled by any card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelz Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 As i mentioned in other thread slyfox have released their beta version of anyDVD HD http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=1281 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelz Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 AnydvdHD is now avilable to purchase,you can download the 21day trial for free first .So if anyone with HD movies is interested here it is. http://www.slysoft.com/en/download.html AnyDVD HD comes with same functionality as AnyDVD, but with additional features for full HD-DVD (High Definition DVD) support, including decryption of HD-DVD movie discs. Allows you to watch movies over a digital display connection, without HDCP compliant graphics card and HDCP compliant display. No need to buy an expensive monitor. Sweet! Playback your discs on your PC with PowerDVD Ultra, which otherwise do not run (titles released by Studio Canal, The Weinstein Company, Kinowelt, Optimum Releasing). AnyDVD HD is the "must have" utility for the serious home theater enthusiast using a media center / home theater PC. Another amazing feature of AnyDVD HD is "magic file replacement ™". Remaster any commercial movie disc using simple XML scripts. These scripts will "magically" replace the files on the physical disc. You can customize discs as you like without even making a copy to harddisk! AnyDVD comes with a UDF 2.5 file ripper, no need to install 3rd party UDF 2.5 filesystem under Windows XP. PS. I realise most of you have stand alone HD players but thought it might be of some interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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