NoLongerUsed Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Click on the following link for CNET's full review of the 4 x Windows Vista offerings: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3672_7-668790...tml?tag=nl.e729 It will be interesting to hear from those using the Windows Media Centre with Vista Home Premium http://reviews.cnet.com/Windows_Vista_Home....html?tag=chart and Vista Ultimate http://reviews.cnet.com/Windows_Vista_Ulti....html?tag=chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 interesting reading tim, the reviews there seem a little luke warm inregards whether should upgrade or not. wondering if should go the vista, my 4 year old pc is supposedly good enough. but I suspect an upgrade would probably be necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwimeat Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 There are some nice features, some notable improvements but drivers aren't quite there yet especially for 64-bit. Still running XP Pro as primary OS on my 2 week old Lenono Thinkpad T60 (and Lenovo are one of the best Tier One OEM's for Vista driver support) until all the issues get sorted (ETA is within next couple of weeks for all the major remaining stuff from Lenovo and they are releasing updates daily atm). Essentially it's JAFOS and too many people get caught up in the marketing and other foibles. Now I prefer to be much more enthusiastic about Office 2007 which is a really significant improvement in my books. For the record I work for a Microsoft Gold Partner and also am a Technet Plus subscriber so I have plenty of (legal) Vista (and most other MS software) licenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 There are some nice features, some notable improvements but drivers aren't quite there yet especially for 64-bit. Still running XP Pro as primary OS on my 2 week old Lenono Thinkpad T60 (and Lenovo are one of the best Tier One OEM's for Vista driver support) until all the issues get sorted (ETA is within next couple of weeks for all the major remaining stuff from Lenovo and they are releasing updates daily atm).Essentially it's JAFOS and too many people get caught up in the marketing and other foibles. Now I prefer to be much more enthusiastic about Office 2007 which is a really significant improvement in my books. For the record I work for a Microsoft Gold Partner and also am a Technet Plus subscriber so I have plenty of (legal) Vista (and most other MS software) licenses. So as an experienced computer user, you'd agree that any "Average Joe" computer user who might hang around the DTV forums should avoid upgrading from WinXP Pro/Home for at least 6-12 months, maybe even more if ever. What's the point for those of us who use our 'puters for mission critical video activities in upgrading from perfectly working WinXP environments to Vista until it's at least 98% supported by software and hardware vendors. I'm just getting a little sick of these incrimental 'up-grades' from software houses... I'll consider Vista or whatever the friggin' incarnation it's known as, when 64bit is supported by more than just bits and pieces of the OS as well as other software houses. I prefer my money to stay in my pocket until I decide it's worth it - not have Billy Boy and his marketing buddies decide for me; thank you very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgdownload Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 So as an experienced computer user, you'd agree that any "Average Joe" computer user should avoid upgrading from WinXP Pro/Home for at least 6-12 months)That's my take on it. MS will drop XP support over the next few years, and of course anyone buying a new machine will go Vista, but existing users really don't gain much (other than teething issues and eye candy) over current XP installations. I believe some games will be released as 'Vista Only' which may drive takup a bit. Personally I think I'll sit back for 3-6 months and see what happens - Maybe investigate a dual boot setup before that. Regards Peter Gillespie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grampus Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Although its had heaps fo Beta testing, there is always a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip. I think most peoples experience with any new release is to hang back and wait for SP1 to come out. Can't recall how long that was with previous OS releases tho' But I for one am certainly interested in any upgrade issues as opposed to new builds. Currently running XP MCE SP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50mxe20 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Interesting that if you have an OEM version of XP, that it costs one an extra $100 or so to upgrade to Vista. That is sure to make a lot of people happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Interesting that if you have an OEM version of XP, that it costs one an extra $100 or so to upgrade to Vista.That is sure to make a lot of people happy. Not this little puppy. Upgrading costs are too high given the % gain to be had from the upgrade. Vista represents at the most a 5-10% improvement over current WinXP Pro installations on P-IV single core 32bit machines, yet they aren't charging 5-10% of the full purchase price to upgrade. It's a flamin' con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50mxe20 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Not this little puppy. Upgrading costs are too high given the % gain to be had from the upgrade. Vista represents at the most a 5-10% improvement over current WinXP Pro installations on P-IV single core 32bit machines, yet they aren't charging 5-10% of the full purchase price to upgrade.It's a flamin' con. I agree. I held off going from Win 2000 Pro to XP for so long. Until I realised I could give XP the classic look and feel and then I changed. But waited until I was rebuilding anyway. Also kept me compatible with the rest of the office. Turned out XP was a bit better in some ways. It will be the same with Vista unless I buy a new machine of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EZYHD Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Can always jump ship and get a Mac and the new OS X Leopard when its out next few months. http://www.apple.com/au/macosx/leopard/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Can always jump ship and get a Mac and the new OS X Leopard when its out next few months.http://www.apple.com/au/macosx/leopard/index.html Isn't that a classic example of trolling? Besides; why I'd want to pay Roll's Royce prices for what is essentially a rebadged Commodore HSV is beyond me... but you go ahead. Q: What's the difference between Apple advertising executives and kids in a candy store? A: Nothing. They both love suckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50mxe20 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Can always jump ship and get a Mac and the new OS X Leopard when its out next few months.http://www.apple.com/au/macosx/leopard/index.html It a religion. All bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypnotoad1503559952 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I think most peoples experience with any new release is to hang back and wait for SP1 to come out. SP1 for Vista was due to be released mid-year with Longhorn Server but it has now slipped to around December (I assume 2007 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoco2 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I have yet to read a review of Vista that isn't just a fluff piece that doesn't go into any real depth. It really is something you should wait and see over... eventually we'll all pretty much upgrade to it, but what's the hurry? Next PC update will bring with it Vista anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest raeldush Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Not sure if this affects anyone here but Quickbooks are not supporting any of their previous versions on Vista. MYOB have not made any announcement yet, but it is most likely to be the same. Rael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztec Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Isn't that a classic example of trolling?Besides; why I'd want to pay Roll's Royce prices for what is essentially a rebadged Commodore HSV is beyond me... but you go ahead. Q: What's the difference between Apple advertising executives and kids in a candy store? A: Nothing. They both love suckers. It'd be better to go open source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 The PC User mag from a couple of months ago had some interesting apps included on the cover cd. These apps emulate some of the Vista features - for XP. I have installed some of them to give me a little idea of what Vista will be like before I shell out for it. There's stuff like an Aero type app, Picasa, a file manager... to name a few... They basically give XP a cosmetic upgrade to look like Vista. If anyone else has that mag edition, I'd suggest giving it a try to get a basic feel for Vista before you buy. IMO, I'd rather stay with XP right now.... can't see anything compelling to upgrade... yet... Regards, Rass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dawg Down Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 I have installed some of them to give me a little idea of what Vista will be like before I shell out for it. There's stuff like an Aero type app, Picasa, a file manager... to name a few... I wouldn't touch these types of applications. They are resource-hungry and will slow down your XP a lot. Even if you uninstall them they won't be clean uninstall. I had to create a new user account to get my XP back to normal speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EZYHD Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Isn't that a classic example of trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidward Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Isn't that a classic example of trolling?Besides; why I'd want to pay Roll's Royce prices for what is essentially a rebadged Commodore HSV is beyond me... but you go ahead. Q: What's the difference between Apple advertising executives and kids in a candy store? A: Nothing. They both love suckers. C'mon everyone knows Vista is just a poor mans OS X. Buy the real thing, It'll actually work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glider Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 I'm just waiting for someone with Vista Media Center to download one of those pirated BluRay discs like "Serenity" and try and play it via HDMI to their big screen! I want to see what happens when Microsoft's DRM kicks in. That is my main reason for not going anywhere near Vista unless armed with an electronic cattle prod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndee Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 There was an interesting bit on the BBC web site on the legalities of Vista. Anyone reading it will never buy Vista; it gives Microsoft the right to do anything they want to your computer if they find (Or think they find - not the same thing) pirate soft ware. It is also possible for hackers to use the same function to delete files JB Another bit on Tom's today, Vista wont play Blue Ray disks, not supported. Also 1 in 20 have NO trouble installing (i.e. 19 in 20 do) A clsss action against nVida, there Vista ready cards mainly are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulimo Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 C'mon everyone knows Vista is just a poor mans OS X. Buy the real thing, It'll actually work! Now if only they sold hardware that catered to me. As for Vista I rather like what I've seen of the betas. I just have issues with the licensing terms and the paranoia it exudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwimeat Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Oh look it's the FUD brigade. Is Vista responsible for global warming too (I believe the Greens think so!)? As I said earlier, Vista is JAFOS. I happen to think it's quite a nice JAFOS with some good features, some average features and a couple I'm not so keen on. However, there does seem to be an excessive amount of misinformation, angst, and outright FUD concerning Vista. I'm just waiting for someone with Vista Media Center to download one of those pirated BluRay discs like "Serenity" and try and play it via HDMI to their big screen! I want to see what happens when Microsoft's DRM kicks in. That is my main reason for not going anywhere near Vista unless armed with an electronic cattle prod. Umm, the only thing that happens at the moment is that the movie plays. No current HD-DVD or Blu-Ray content is using any of DRM constraints at the moment. If it changes it won't only be Microsoft platforms that are affected. BTW the same DRM rules apply to Apple, Sony's PS3, and all major vendors of software for content playback including Cyberlink PowerDVD, WinVideo, etc. It's also in all the HDMI equipped hardware we buy. This is not a Microsoft only constraint, if anything blame the content providers and the mass market commercial pirates. Please stop with the FUD especially as you haven't tried it (unless some used a cattle prod!?). I have. All the media centre functionality works exactly as it should with the media I've tried. Oh and that includes testing with DRM enable media requiring license acquisition from a third party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elisiX Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 hmm, well ive got both OSX and Vista.. and OSX wins hands down. Ive been a PC/Windows user most of my 10 or so years around PC's.. but the past 6-8 months.. all OSX. I thought i'd give Vista a crack, but IMO it feels too bloated and like a dodgy attempt to copy some good idea's from OSX. Its still brilliant, but not better then OSX imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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