AnthonyB Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hi Folks, not been around for a while, but whilst back in the UK over xmas I saw the Pioneer DVR-545HX-S family of DVR's... Pioneer UK Page The important thing about these for me (other than scarts that match it up properly with the rest of my gear) is that they have the Live Pause / Automatic recording feature similar to a proper PVR, but it's a DVD recorder too... Firstly, anybody heard if or when Pioneer are likely to release something similar here? Secondly, I presume the UK spec digital won't work here in Oz? Thought I saw a thread on that once but can't find it right now. Cheers all, Anthony.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil1503559642 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hi Folks, not been around for a while, but whilst back in the UK over xmas I saw the Pioneer DVR-545HX-S family of DVR's...Pioneer UK Page The important thing about these for me (other than scarts that match it up properly with the rest of my gear) is that they have the Live Pause / Automatic recording feature similar to a proper PVR, but it's a DVD recorder too... Firstly, anybody heard if or when Pioneer are likely to release something similar here? Secondly, I presume the UK spec digital won't work here in Oz? Thought I saw a thread on that once but can't find it right now. Cheers all, Anthony.. Hi Anthony My Niece ,who is a Sydney based Journalist, contacted Pioneer just before Xmas about SD Digital Tuners in their DVD Recorders and was told " no plans in the near future '' but you can bet your last dollar they are close, probaly around Easter(IMPO). Regards Basil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hex Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Have been told that Samsung and Panasonic will both have twin tuner hi definition pvrs soon. but niether will have dvd writers..darn!!. After trying the LG I am willing to wait for this either of these thoogh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyB Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hi Anthony My Niece ,who is a Sydney based Journalist, contacted Pioneer just before Xmas about SD Digital Tuners in their DVD Recorders and was told " no plans in the near future '' but you can bet your last dollar they are close, probaly around Easter(IMPO). Regards Basil Boo - Easter Think that's too late - there just doesn't seem to be the ideal solution for me available yet - any Australia released version won't have scarts I imagine either. Oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyB Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hi Folks, not been around for a while, but whilst back in the UK over xmas I saw the Pioneer DVR-545HX-S family of DVR's...Pioneer UK Page The important thing about these for me (other than scarts that match it up properly with the rest of my gear) is that they have the Live Pause / Automatic recording feature similar to a proper PVR, but it's a DVD recorder too... Firstly, anybody heard if or when Pioneer are likely to release something similar here? Secondly, I presume the UK spec digital won't work here in Oz? Thought I saw a thread on that once but can't find it right now. Cheers all, Anthony.. ...so, given that it looks like Pioneer aren't in any hurry, anyone got a view on whether a UK / EU spec digital tuner will work in Oz? The tech spec seems to suggest it "should", but obviously it'd be an expensive mistake on my part if it didn't... Thanks very much in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil1503559642 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 ...so, given that it looks like Pioneer aren't in any hurry, anyone got a view on whether a UK / EU spec digital tuner will work in Oz? The tech spec seems to suggest it "should", but obviously it'd be an expensive mistake on my part if it didn't...Thanks very much in advance. Hi No, it won't work ,all the exact Technical reasons are in my Computer in Sydney(on North Coast now) but from Memory it has to do with the 7Mhz Channel Spacing and the DD Audio. There have been several Threads on this over the last 3 Years so if you do a search you should find one of them, along with the correct Technical explanation. If no one else Posts PM AlanH,he will explain it. Regards Basil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVEous Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I presume the UK spec digital won't work here in Oz? Thought I saw a thread on that once but can't find it right now. Even though the UK uses PAL on the analogue service, their sound carrier offset is 6MHz. Here, it is 5.5MHz, so you can forget the analogue tuner, unless you can tweak the subcarrier offset. As far a Digital goes, MPEG2 is MPEG2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igloo Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Hi Anthony My Niece ,who is a Sydney based Journalist, contacted Pioneer just before Xmas about SD Digital Tuners in their DVD Recorders and was told " no plans in the near future '' but you can bet your last dollar they are close, probaly around Easter(IMPO). Regards Basil I e-mailed Pioneer with the same query - timing of release of DVD rec including digital tuner & got this reply... Thank you for your email, It is rumoured they will be released mid year, There is no set date as yet. Sincerely, Pioneer Support 178-184 Boundary Road, Braeside Vic, 3195 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I thought part of their reason was beacuse the Aus market was too small to develop a local digital tuner. However, with the release of the DVB equipped plasma range I would have thought that those difficulties would have been overcome and it would have been fairly easy to switch over a 545HS to be equipped with Aus compatible tuner... Whether it be here Easter or even July, that's too late as many other brands are already to market! Disappointed Pioneer fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Devil Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Boo - Easter Think that's too late - there just doesn't seem to be the ideal solution for me available yet - any Australia released version won't have scarts I imagine either. Oh well... You are right, SCART is not favoured by Panasonic, Pioneer etc for releases here. I'm not really a fan of SCART although it is on many items here. The plugs are not always secure due to the heavy cabling, carrying, as it does, a lot of superfluous connectors. {e.g audio if you are connecting to a receiver or DAC} s-video is not much better if you use heavier cabling and RCA plugs can be equally painful. The only really secure connectort is BNC but that is rare on consumer items these days. And I have read quite a bit of criticism re HDMI as being equally insecure. But I'm off your topic. Pioneer have been slow off the mark misjudging the market for a DVD-R with digital tuner. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattis Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Have been told that Samsung and Panasonic will both have twin tuner hi definition pvrs soon. but niether will have dvd writers..darn!!. After trying the LG I am willing to wait for this either of these thoogh. I am guessing you realise that such a player would produce SD DVDs from your nice HD programs and that this process would require some signficant re-encoding to occur to convert the HD MPEG2 stream down to an SD MPEG2 stream? Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgdownload Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I am guessing you realise that such a player would produce SD DVDs from your nice HD programs and that this process would require some signficant re-encoding to occur to convert the HD MPEG2 stream down to an SD MPEG2 stream? MattPVRs already do all the encoding to analogue 'on the fly' - that's basically what they do (digital in => analogue out => TV). Technically, I've never understood why it should be so hard to wack in a standard DVDR 'component' and just send the signal to it (as well as the TV) so the DVDR can do what it does 'on the fly' (take analogue, compress it and encode it to DVD format). Presumably its just a cost thing of having all this functionality in the one unit ($1500+)Regards Peter Gillespie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyB Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 You are right, SCART is not favoured by Panasonic, Pioneer etc for releases here. I'm not really a fan of SCART although it is on many items here. The plugs are not always secure due to the heavy cabling, carrying, as it does, a lot of superfluous connectors. {e.g audio if you are connecting to a receiver or DAC} My preference for scart is mainly for compatibility with my existing gear that came from the UK, i.e. the Pioneer surround sound amp that does scart RGB switching, Sony TV with RBG scart, Sony DVD with RGB scart etc. etc. I guess I should really be considering upgrading all my gear but don't want to spend the money right now or write off the costs of the original gear - afterall, who wants a 100Hz 32" widescreen CRT these days - even a great one I could always get a s-video to scart lead but I would assume that wouldn't carry the pin 8 auto-switching signal - not the end of the world, but still a nice feature. For those that are interested, I did PM AlanH as suggested above and received a lengthy description of why it probably won't work without a lot more info on the actual tuner itself. Remember this is a digital tuner, not analog. Cheers Anthony.. PS - all this drama JUST because moving house meant my Fox IQ no longer carried the FTA signals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil1503559642 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Hi Anthony If you have the Time do a Seach as there was an extensive Thread(or 2) on this around the Time DVD Recorders with Digital tuners were released in the UK. The reasons why they won't work in Oz was extensively explained by several of the 'Technically Minded' Members at the Time. I thought alanH was one of them but i may be getting my Threads mixed up. Regards Basil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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